Well I've been bitten by the bug... the power bug! hehe
Looking for some tips on how to increase power in my TP wagon...
It's carbi engine, 2.6litre.... umm yeah any suggestions would be great thanks :)

--Anna

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, lookie here. (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8122)
Though, if it is an auto it may or may not pose a problem.

well if its an auto then a manual conversion would do wonders...
other things: exhaust, cam work, bigger carb it all depends on how much ur willing to pay

hello :)

give me some more details and i'll work something out for u.

is ur wagon auto or manual?
how many km's has it done?
wat is your approximate budget?
does ur car blow abit of smoke wen u start it up or wen u are driving?

let me know about those things (either by PM'ing me or just in here) and ill work something out

brendan

:thumbsup: To wanting to make it go faster. Were all a bit like that.

Although... it wont be the easiest of tasks, after all it is a wagon. Ie. heavy.

But a few more ponies is cheaply achieveable.

Ive looked in your profile and noticed your car to be Automatic, now the 1st thing i would be looking at is a manual conversion, these can be expensive depending on how its done, if you do it yourself, and its quite possible to do by yourself, you could likely do it for the price of the parts and a slab for your mates to help :P

Next, exhaust, go for a 2.25" - 2.50" exhaust, with a Lukey Muffler (My reccomendation :P)

Filters are good, although our Magna's need a special kind of filter, im not sure what it is as i dont have one, and you would also have to make a path for cold air to get to the filter, other people will be able to help you there.

Carby - TM-SE-RED has an XF Webber carb on his, and he tells some good stories about it to :P You could look into that, although you would need an adaptor plate made, it would be well worthwhile :D

Thats about all i can think of at the moment, any questions PM me ;)

is ur wagon auto or manual? the wagon is auto
how many km's has it done? km reads 198947
wat is your approximate budget? approx budget to start like right now...$300- BUT i am willing to do it all over time so could be anywhere up to a grand...
does ur car blow abit of smoke wen u start it up or wen u are driving? no real smoke blownb that i have noticed

thanks for your help guys, exhaust will be done eventually- but for now a tip will have to do ;) as for manual conversion... one day.. maybe... but being slack and still on my P's the condition on them is automatic, so i have 6 more months to go til i can drive a manual by myself legally and would rather wait than go for manual P's now..
Im excited... :badgrin: :cool:

and i dont mind getting my hands dirty will get more satisfaction telling people "i did it myself " the looks on ppls faces will be priceless considering im a chick :P lol

finally another chick who doesnt give a rats about breaking a finger nail, i recently had to get a new alternator for the car, man the guy who sold it to me carried on about who was gonna fit it, I was like dude...me! its like 4 friggen bolts, he just stared at me and told me to call him if i had a problem, he would charge me 60 to fit it. I laughed and told him i wouldnt need it.
MEN i tell ya what cant live with em......pass the beer nuts!!!

Ive also got a TP wagon there are pics on here somewhere of my beast, if you do a search and put in 'some more pics of my tp' you should find it!
Thats if you wanna of course!

ok, well since its auto and u wont get b able to try any manual conversions for at least the next 6 months, ill give u some tips on wat u can upgrade/mod to give power increases.

lets not look at the carby right now, lets look at things that will increase power so that wen it comes time for the manual (maybe u said :cool: ) then its an easy swap and we can then look at changing the carby.

1st of all... exhaust and/or CAI. do u want big power? like, massive N/A mods or turbo or supercharged? being carby, ur car has the catalytic converter in the engine bay correct? (i dunno if they changed that in the TP's) if its in ur engine bay, go and find a catalytic converter from an EFI TP or TN and get it welded into ur exhaust under the car. should b cheapish from the wreckers, just try and find a car with not many KM's on the odometer so u know at least the cat might b alright. this cat is a small restriction but that is FINE!

next, either get a set of extractors ("Genie" extractors are around $250) or take ur exhaust manifold off and bust through the catalytic converter in ur engine bay. (it'll b the largish round cylinder sitting upright). gut it completely, so that there is nomore of the honeycomb inside left. should just be bare metal, or wateva its made of. (u still have a cat under the car remember, so the car is still legal and thats wat we want!)

after the extractors, go for a full 2" mandrel bent cat back system with a hi-flow muffler on the end. redback mufflers i hear are quite good. i think its around $280-$300 for a mandrel bent system. (there is mandrel bent and press bent. press is good for noise but a 2" press bent will flow the same if not worse than wat u have on now)

thats ur exhaust down, now CAI time. cold air induction will help ur car by alot, sucking colder air in from outside as apposed to engine bay etc... now u could do it subtley by running piping somewhere into the front bar etc if u want the stealthy sorta CAI, or u could add a scoop or vents. a scoop will work better than vents, but im not really a scoop person so yeah... wateva takes ur fancy :). with the scoop/vents, u should try and find an open air circular filter like this one (http://www.montecarloss.com/Open_Cleaner.jpg). with exhaust and CAI, ur car should b sounding abit beefier and should b breathing alot better.

now, this i think will give u the most satisfaction wen u install it. a Mild Cam :). now we are gettin serious. the mild cam wont really increase power, it will just help the car rev abit harder and make the most of ur breathing mods. because it is carby, there is no troubles with the mild cam going in. i wrote up a how to on changing a cam i think. do a search,its somewhere in the 1st gen section. there are 2 options with the cam. u can do wat i did and regrind ur stock cam which is $120-$140 from repco machine shop, although u will need to try and find sigma manually adjustable rocker gear. the magnas rocker gear is automatically adjusting, but it cannot adjust enough to the reground cam. i have no idea how much the sigma rocker gear is as i havent found any yet. well i havent looked but thats another story. then, option 2 is (which is safer) buying a new cam from crow cams or crane cams or wateva. i think its around $270-$300 for the mild cam from crow cams. here is the link for the cam u need - Crow Cams - Sigma OHC (http://www.crowcams.com.au/templates/Catalogue-Sigma-OHC.shtml)

the sigma has the same engine as ours so the sigma and magna cams are the same. wat u need is the second from the bottom. "Mild cam for use in engines with hydraulic lash adjusters. To april 1991". it says peak power is 2000/5800. as apposed to 2000/4800 in ur stock magna :) will peak higher in the revs and so it will feel like the car is pulling away SO much harder! the cam is a great addition, and cheapish for us with carbys :)

i think thats ur $1000 budget over time anyway. u could also try some head work. mild port and polish, but this is a few hundred. oh yeah, u can get ur head skimmed 10 thou for $60 from the repco machine shop. this will give u higher compression and so slightly more torque and slightly better fuel economy. HOWEVER, with the higher compression ur engine will get alittle warmer so if where u live it gets pretty damn hot, it could cause some havoc. i blew my engine up after the carby, cam and head skim, but thats cause wen we did the carby we didnt block up a few water jackets and so the car lost all its coolant and decided to crack the block.

anyway thats enough from me. i hope that helps with pricing etc...

brendan

ok, well since its auto and u wont get b able to try any manual conversions for at least the next 6 months, ill give u some tips on wat u can upgrade/mod to give power increases.

lets not look at the carby right now, lets look at things that will increase power so that wen it comes time for the manual (maybe u said :cool: ) then its an easy swap and we can then look at changing the carby.

1st of all... exhaust and/or CAI. do u want big power? like, massive N/A mods or turbo or supercharged? being carby, ur car has the catalytic converter in the engine bay correct? (i dunno if they changed that in the TP's) if its in ur engine bay, go and find a catalytic converter from an EFI TP or TN and get it welded into ur exhaust under the car. should b cheapish from the wreckers, just try and find a car with not many KM's on the odometer so u know at least the cat might b alright. this cat is a small restriction but that is FINE!
brendan
TP carby cat converters were still in the engine bay.

I've got a "high-flow" cat converter...

Do the carby air intakes still pick up from the same point as the EFI? If so, I've got 40ft of 2½" conduit that can be used, and I'll be in Kyabram in a couple of weeks.

Do the carby air intakes still pick up from the same point as the EFI? If so, I've got 40ft of 2½" conduit that can be used, and I'll be in Kyabram in a couple of weeks.


no they dont. the EFI picks up air from the left side of the engine bay as u look at it from the front. the carby takes air from the right side as u look at it.

The cat converters are only UNDER the car with EFI models, carby models have them at the manifold and thats all....So boring your cat at the manifold will still be illegal..