Well after having the kit looking at me everytime I was in my room for the past two months I finally managed to get the funds together to get the POD and adapter to fit the kit.

It took me and my cousin 4 1/2 hours trying to get the bastard in.. All I can say about the installation was it was ****ing tight.

But, after i've been franticly modding my Verada these past 6 months i'm extremly happy having made this my latest addition. I disconnected my battery since I soldered my MAS sensor so my car has been running like a dog for the past 300km's but just today she was running like a dream, also extremly noticable at night.

It is true when people say that it robs low end power but definatly makes up past 3500rpm. The sound is most noticable at the lights stopped by its constant hissing, but after 4000rpm the car now doesn't sound like its strougling but responds with a almost WRX sound, deep burble from the engine, not exhaust

A definate mod for those interested in getting more out of their car while still having a back pocket.

Thanks for the feedback. I may be doing this or similar very shortly. Though, if I lose any more low down power I may as well get out and push! We need to find low down power gains people!

I have just installed KN pod, have heard low down loss starts off bad but gets better as ecu learns new flow characteristics and filter gets a bit dirty.

Driving at night is indeed intense now boys, and can use climate control to know how cold the air coming in is :)

Will post pic's soon.

hehe... i got mine in too.. bloody awesome... need to get a sock though.. lol

other nite i forgot and i went thru a puddle.. about... say..a foot deep... :( engine got some water and started spluttering.. was fine after 10 mins.. lol.. and remember... my car isn't exactly of legal height...........:badgrin::badgrin:

GenoCide, glade you finaly got it in, i did say it was a tight fit lol
and ya got to love night driveing, mate wait till winter when its nice foggy and like 2*'c

as for the coughing and carrying on iv got no ****ing idea what the go is there
mine was fine when i installed it, no probs at all, same as a few others and by the look only a FEW

anyway cant wait for the pic's

and choonga your car is less than 1/3 of a foot of the ground what did you expect?lol

Smoker

Strangly enough I got a hold of a round K&N pod insted of the oval (don't ask why), only had one problem so far which didnt concern me since it has only happened once in the past 4 days of having the kit in; I was stopped waiting to turn and I saw the idle rpm drop below 750 and sounded like it was going to stall then the engine spent 2-3 seconds jacking the rpm back up to proper and has run normal ever since :)

I put it down to ecu bedding the bastard in, the more I drive the better it seems. Usual stuff, but i'd like to say installing it yourself can provide interesting for you and whom ever is helping you put it in, heh good luck to all who are looking to use TH Smokers kit, I admire the fact the little people of this world can still outshine the corporate world!!! I havnt modded the Verada in 2 months and now im back on the bandwagon looking for more N/A power, hehe.

Laters.

P.S. luv u smoker!

I am really struggling to decide on the full kit or short kit... with the full kit there are the obvious concerns of water and the elements but seems to have good results, the problem with the short kit having the radiant heat from the engine which I would consider insulating anyway... just not sure!

I have just installed KN pod, have heard low down loss starts off bad but gets better as ecu learns new flow characteristics and filter gets a bit dirty.


thats the stupidest thing i've ever read in my life....why would u purposely leave the filter dirty, restriciting the flow, to regain down low power......

You might aswell just keep your stock filter.......

thats the stupidest thing i've ever read in my life....why would u purposely leave the filter dirty, restriciting the flow, to regain down low power......

You might aswell just keep your stock filter.......

the K&N filter actually works better when it gets dirtier.... unlike the stock filter. :nuts:

I've havn't noticed any loss of power down low. Maybe its only in the autos that you get it.

the K&N filter actually works better when it gets dirtier.... unlike the stock filter. :nuts: :nuts::nuts:
Really?
How so?

:nuts::nuts:
Really?
How so?

do you have a k&n? if you do, go read the instructions. if not, look up the website.

I have to say that I've installed a K&N pod on my magna and have found that losses down in the rev range minimal if any, but have noticed that the engine seems to be more willing to rev higher if that makes sence (could be me more willing to give it some)
Anyhow have also tried the removal of the air resonators/acumulators and found a greater responsiveness or touchiness (is that a word?) of the throtle. I will be putting one back on to see again how the throtle behaves.
A CAI mod will be coming soon but maybe unlike some I dont expect massive gains by doing this, just experimenting is something I like to do and untill I get some extractors on the car, it's giving me something to play with.
I also think that once the extractors etc is sorted, greater benifit will come of the induction mods I've planned, including a throtle body grind.
This is just my opinion.

the K&N filter actually works better when it gets dirtier.... unlike the stock filter. :nuts:

As above..........

I put it down to ecu bedding the bastard in
Doubt it. These filters will give a rough idle at times. I put the paper filter back in and idle is perfect.

had th smokers kit now for around a month or so. Car runs sweet :D really feel a difference on cold nights. Car also now gives a intercooler flutter noise when changing gears (who needs a turbo to get pretty noises lol) Havent had any problems with water or rough idles. No notice of loss of power down low either... but im a manual so below 2000rpm is for cruising along

if you put a panel filter and modify the air intake so that it gets air from the front of the car (where the foggies sit) would this make any difference. I have made a three way splitter so that i can get air coming in from either side (where the foggies sit) and ill run flex pipe (if thats what its called) up to the air filter box. Im not to familiar with this sort of stuff but ill give it a go.

I'll see redav.

I'll see redav.
Yeah, let us know. I'm gonna clean my panel and see how it goes once I put it back in.

if you put a panel filter and modify the air intake so that it gets air from the front of the car (where the foggies sit) would this make any difference. I have made a three way splitter so that i can get air coming in from either side (where the foggies sit) and ill run flex pipe (if thats what its called) up to the air filter box. Im not to familiar with this sort of stuff but ill give it a go.

You mean u are running multiple pipes in to the airbox? Hmmm, I wouldn't do that. Try one larger 60-80 mm tube past the battery down, cut bit of the plastic stuff off to get it through to the front. If u are using the foglight plastic as your "bellmouth" u might cut off some more stuff from it to enlarge the back of the hole to match your 80 mm tube.
Also, use only pipes which are smooth inside. Even PVC drain pipe is not bad idea - just might be difficult to find suitable size diameter.
And what comes to loss of torque at low RPM - perhaps one should allow the ECU to get used to improved airflow/amount to adjust the mixture accordingly.

what i meant was run a pipe from each fog light position into one pipe then up to the box.

what i meant was run a pipe from each fog light position into one pipe then up to the box.

I have mine right next to the fog light position, it sucks up a lot of dirt from the ground, every time I open my air box I have to clean it as it gets a lot of everything, sand, gravel, insects, etc... the filter holds up pretty good though.

I have mine right next to the fog light position, it sucks up a lot of dirt from the ground, every time I open my air box I have to clean it as it gets a lot of everything, sand, gravel, insects, etc... the filter holds up pretty good though.

I get the same thing, the worst is driving to and around my holiday house in Rye, I get heaps of sand and bugs in my airbox :cry: . I'm thinking of fitting some kind of mesh near the start of the CAI, but need to find somthing that isn't to restrictive :D

the K&N filter actually works better when it gets dirtier.... unlike the stock filter.

You say the filter "works" better when dirty.....a filters job is to clean the air of dirt whilst still allowing air to pass through....so to say that it works better when its dirty does not make sense....as the dirt would be restricting the amount of airflow.......

sorry....but inregards to flow...... a dirty filter will never "work" better than a clean one.....
whether or not u get benefits or losses from this increase in flow is another story.

Well to be a real pedant, it depends on your definition of work. If a good filter flows well, then a clean one works best. But if a good filter is one that stops all the dirt then a dirty one works best because there are less gaps. :P

Sorry, I have nothing constructive to add to this conversation :D

Less arguing and more TH smoker praising.

I think im going to start a non-profitable chairty for the guy, we need TH smoker to get his magna back or the ingenious ideas are going to come to an end. Btw people he wants a VRX so give generously ! :bowrofl:

Sorry Genocide but back to the filter, is it possible that the K&N panel actually allows too much air in when new/clean. maybe you get a better mix of air/fuel when it is having to work a bit to get it (but not too much) or am I talking rubbish? I just think there is a fine line to probably having too much or too little free flowing air in regards to performance. From what I have noticed the K&N is much less dense than the standard fibre filters.

People talking of K&N panel filters with regards to this CAI kit or any, there prettymuch non-existant when you go this far with custom induction setups.


Anybody noticed a louder exhaust? Afew of my mates have said that it is infact louder from the outside, I think its deeper but not louder but this could just be a complete generalization.

Living in a dusty area ,I've got one of these for the pod.

Only a 2% restriction to airflow, compared to 10%+ with the drysock.

That looks like water would go straight though it though..
Sock probably would provide me with abit more piece of mind against water in winter.

Yeah, it's a very open cell foam type thing. Like green Scotchbrite pads but more open. :nuts:

They reckon oil it before putting it on the pod, but I'll probably just Scotchguard it to repel small splashes.

Don't get much rain up here. :D .....Oh, hang on.... :cry:

You say the filter "works" better when dirty.....a filters job is to clean the air of dirt whilst still allowing air to pass through....so to say that it works better when its dirty does not make sense....as the dirt would be restricting the amount of airflow.......

sorry....but inregards to flow...... a dirty filter will never "work" better than a clean one.....
whether or not u get benefits or losses from this increase in flow is another story.

Mate if you have k&n pod read the instructions, if not read the info on K&N website, i dont know why it works but K&N is a big company and id say that experience counts.