HI, has anyone got (or do you know anyone that has) pedders sports rider coils under their TJ? If so, are they any good? I'm only dropping the car about 40 mm (driveway won't allow much more) so your views would be greatly appreciated thx. :cool:

i've got pedders in my TH (the lower ones) and haven't had a problem with them. i know a lot of people give pedders ****, but i honestly think their springs are fine... their shocks on the other hand are meant to be CRAP

Had 2 bad experiences with pedders springs on the front of 2 different model Veradas. KE and KH.

The coils were rubbing or tapping eachother when you went over a bump causing a knocking(banging) sound inside the cabin. Gave me the ****s. Got rid of them on both verada's and put kings in. Perfect now.

They were only the stage 1 lowering on both. (30 mm approx).

I have the low sports ryder heavy duty shocks in the back. I have no problems in my TE, I love the ride ... so firm.
Also have the sports ryder shocks and I love them.

Have had Pedders sportRyder springs (30mm drop) in a TF for 3 years and now they are in another TF I've had for almost a year and still havn't had any issues at all.

Yep Got pedders sports ryder springs and gas shocks, no issues with them whatsoever!!!! A lot of people give them a lot of ****, but I can persoanlly vouch I have had no problems in my 2 years with them on!

just wondering what was the rough cost you guys paid for them?

I payed $300 for my set (springs only) installed about 4 years ago. :P

I got quoted $530 fitted + wheel align
Springs were $328 fit yourself

a mate of mine put pedders sports ryder springs in his XR6T when he first got it, when he took the car in for its first service 3 days later, the mechanic rang him up and said "mate go buy yourself a lottery ticket, whoever lowered your car left a bolt out of your right front suspension, the only thing that stopped it from all collapsing on you was pure ass"

everyone rags pedders. but hello at the end of the day springs are just round bar heated up and twisted into the shape of the spring. and alot of people only go for kings because there price is genrally a bit cheaper. they are amuch of a muchnes. pedders are fine buddy.

everyone rags pedders. but hello at the end of the day springs are just round bar heated up and twisted into the shape of the spring. and alot of people only go for kings because there price is genrally a bit cheaper. they are amuch of a muchnes. pedders are fine buddy.
some reading (http://www.ripoffmerchant.net/)

im not saying they are poor suspention, but they are more expencive than everywhere else

Yep, everyone slams Pedders for some reason, and I have seen that website before from a very disatisfied franchisee (who's more upset about Pedders internal business prcatices and has an axe to grind).

I had a complete Pedders suspension overhaul on my last car, a TH Sports. ie. 40mm lowered Sportsryder springs, new shocks, new front and rear sway bars and an engine strut brace. All was done at a good price - and the Pedders shop I dealt with in Adelaide was very good. I ran it all for two years, including some reasonably hard driving and the suspension never missed a beat. No sagging - it was all sweet. I'm not saying people haven't had the odd bad experience with Pedders gear, but I'm sure if you did a big enough sample there'd be people who've had crap King Springs etc too.

i had my entired suspension replaced with pedders for 1300.00 bucks, best money i ever spent. could be happier with the performance

every one is quick to rag things on this forum but they really dont ahve a clue mate i work at coventrys and have been there 4 4years. everyone who buys kings springs i ask them why they went kings. reason: they are cheaper. yeah they are cheaper but there is no difference in ride. just price. because peders have a name for themselves. they are a top company guys.

i don't know much about them, but they quoted me $614 for four sports riders fitted. that's a bit dear i thought

he fits springs for bout $75 if you supply the springs. it will save you heaps man i bought and fitted mine for $310.

everyone rags pedders. but hello at the end of the day springs are just round bar heated up and twisted into the shape of the spring. and alot of people only go for kings because there price is genrally a bit cheaper. they are amuch of a muchnes. pedders are fine buddy.

yeah i mean cos an F1 car is just a carbon fibre monocoche too, thats why minardi should have won a couple of races last year...

There is alot more to it then just a twisted peice of metal... ever heard of spring rates? wheel rates?

some reading (http://www.ripoffmerchant.net/)

im not saying they are poor suspention, but they are more expencive than everywhere else

sorry dude but for a start, i know that they dont make their springs in some joint in taiwan, but in australia. I have seen em being made. Second, there is no way their shocks are re-branded monroes, for a start monroe wouldnt allow this, and secondly the performance of monroe shocks are well above those of pedders ones :P

It sounds like that bloke is just pissed about his franchise going under and is after some revenge. I would take all of that with a grain of salt.

dude these are street cars not F1 cars. dude there is no difference except in price between kings and pedders. i bet you paid between $1200-$1500 for your lowerd suspension. i wish i could waste that on suspension. you dont need it dude just go springs.

dude these are street cars not F1 cars. dude there is no difference except in price between kings and pedders. i bet you paid between $1200-$1500 for your lowerd suspension. i wish i could waste that on suspension. you dont need it dude just go springs.

well how come kia's dont handle as well as BMW's? they're just springs arent they??? Mate their is alot more too it then just some bent peice of metal as i said before. If it was that simple then how come a magna VRX handles better then a base model magna??? the only difference is the springs!!

its the same as suggesting that it doesnt matter what brand of tyres you put on your car cos its just tyres.. when their is a massive difference in performance between "supa saver" tyres or something compared to a good set of bridgestones.

King springs are a far superior product, especially when combined with some koni shocks. I have heard of alot of people upgrading from a pedders setup to king springs and koni shocks setup and say that the car is far better balanced, has more grip and a more controlled ride. But maybe they where just imagining it cos they're just bent peices of metal!! :doubt:

well how come kia's dont handle as well as BMW's?

I don't suppose chassis design/riggidity and suspention design have anything to do with it lol

Put BMW springs in a KIA and it will still handle like a KIA :P

It will probably handle like a very expensive Kia. BMW spring set up probably more expensive than the car.:D

I had a commie with the works cost me about $2,500 through pedders and it was ok for the first fews weeks. Then at night i noticed that the lights were uneven, when I checked one side was 15mm higher than the other. Took it back and pedders told me that it was within there normal tolerences abd that it would settle.

After arguing for over a month I told them to stick it went to industrial springs here in SA and had them reset. They also told me that they make the springs for Pedders and that the diametre was smaller tham most after market springs and this accounted for the difference in drop/or set rate.

Go kings!

Keg.

everyone rags pedders. but hello at the end of the day springs are just round bar heated up and twisted into the shape of the spring. and alot of people only go for kings because there price is genrally a bit cheaper. they are amuch of a muchnes. pedders are fine buddy.

springs are tensioned for comfort and safety

they get quality tested to make sure the 1.5tonne of car isnt going to collapse the spring

that is why there is a difference in ride quality between brands due to quality consistancy and general mathematics of the spring when first made

I don't suppose chassis design/riggidity and suspention design have anything to do with it lol

Put BMW springs in a KIA and it will still handle like a KIA :P

fine then, you want a better example?? how come the mazda tribute handles better on road then a ford escape, which handles better off road. They have ISACTLY the same chassis, ISACTLY the same suspension components, ISACLTY the same engine and gearbox, and isactly the same everything except for a few badges and front body panels

explain that one smarty pants without admitting that the SPRINGS are DIFFERENT and not just twisted peices of metal

fine then, you want a better example?? how come the mazda tribute handles better on road then a ford escape, which handles better off road. They have ISACTLY the same chassis, ISACTLY the same suspension components, ISACLTY the same engine and gearbox, and isactly the same everything except for a few badges and front body panels

explain that one smarty pants without admitting that the SPRINGS are DIFFERENT and not just twisted peices of metal

I never said the springs are the same in all cars, I just stated that springs arn't part of the whole handelling package (suspension). The reson the Tribute doesn't handle EXACTLY the same as the Escape, isn't becuase one has better quallity springs than the other, but more so to do with spring rates and how the springs are designed :P

PS: I never stated that springs are just a twisted bits of metal, I just argued that springs arn't all that make a BMW handle better than a KIA, so don't take this personally :)

I never said the springs are the same in all cars, I just stated that springs arn't part of the whole handelling package (suspension). The reson the Tribute doesn't handle EXACTLY the same as the Escape, isn't becuase one has better quallity springs than the other, but more so to do with spring rates and how the springs are designed :P

PS: I never stated that springs are just a twisted bits of metal, I just argued that springs arn't all that make a BMW handle better than a KIA, so don't take this personally :)

yeah someone did earlier tho (kk84wa), saying that springs has nothing to do with handling and all springs are the same. after reading your post i mistaken thought he/she was you, sorry bout that. Your right its not the WHOLE handling package, but its a pretty major part of it. And springs arent just springs like kk84wa says. My post was more directed at him

off the topic quickly (didnt want to start a new thread).
I know that pedders are 30mm drop, and kings low are 30mm also. I just booked in to have kings low fitted, but was wondering if superlows are better option? not just for looks but handling and everyone use as well. Not sure about the price difference will call them tomorrow, atm the lows are $360. i think superlows are 40mm?
thanks

King lows are actually 40mm drop and the King Superlows are 60mm drop.

i dont know about the performance advantage over pedders but many say the superlows front lows rear evens out the wheel arch height front back.

Tom

King lows are actually 40mm drop and the King Superlows are 60mm drop.

i dont know about the performance advantage over pedders but many say the superlows front lows rear evens out the wheel arch height front back.

Tom
sorry tom, didnt quite get that last bit.

well some say and u can see it that if u drop it 60mm front 40mm back the car will look more levelled as the gaps between the wheels and the top of the arches becomes the same.

Like this, if i can remember this is JO_KING's car and u can see the gap being the same.

Tom

well some say and u can see it that if u drop it 60mm front 40mm back the car will look more levelled as the gaps between the wheels and the top of the arches becomes the same.

Like this, if i can remember this is JO_KING's car and u can see the gap being the same.

Tom

problem with this is that it can potentially stuff up the handling balance of your car. For just cruising its not really a problem, but if your seriously into handling then its not the best idea

the wheel arches are different sizes anyway, who cares if the gap over the rear is less than the gap on the front if the sideskirts sit level? i honestly recken it would make the back look higher

the wheel arches are different sizes anyway, who cares if the gap over the rear is less than the gap on the front if the sideskirts sit level? i honestly recken it would make the back look higher

Yea agree with ya there mate! The wheel arch gap may be level but the front having a larger wheel arch means that you'll end up with the head down bum up look! And as RJL25 said, handling will be compromised doing such a thing as they'll have different spring rates being of different size!

problem with this is that it can potentially stuff up the handling balance of your car. For just cruising its not really a problem, but if your seriously into handling then its not the best idea


the wheel arches are different sizes anyway, who cares if the gap over the rear is less than the gap on the front if the sideskirts sit level? i honestly recken it would make the back look higher

I agree with both of these statments, and hence I have even drop front and rear :D

sorry to ask this but are the pedders shocks and springs good? anyone had problems with them??

They do fine by me, Lowered springs only that is as I left my shocks standard (only 54K on them). And they gave me a phone call 3 weeks later to come round for a free wheel alignment check and adjust after they had settled a bit... :cool: Totally happy with them.

Part No.# Front 2080------Rear 2145

i haven't had any problems with my springs, shocks are pretty much rooted now though (100K km's) so they'll get replaced very soon. i think the ride height should be legal, although it does look pretty damn low (i have the Lower ones), but even with the kit it doesn't really scrape at all.

ok thanks for the info :)

I have Kings Verada lows at back (50mm drop) and kings superlow at front (60mm drop) and the car looks nice now. Still has a bit of a nose down-ass up look which looks sweet. Performance wise its awesome. Went mountain cruzin on sunday and went quite fast on some corners. Handles beautifully. And looks great. ;)

If i had choice between peddars and kings, go kings i would say. And with shocks, go koni or KYB