Today I Picked Up My New Engine
3.5l Dohc 194kw To Fit A Second Gen :d
Mark This Day The 17.1.2005 As The Start
I Will Take Pics Of It Now And Post Soon And Will Upgrade Pics As I Go
Yesterday Was My Birthday And This Is The Best Gift I Could Give Myself :p

How mcuh did the engine set u back?

And how hard is it to have it fitted etc?

Well from what I hear about how good Killbilly's car is you ain't gonna regret it... I should expect people will be following your progress drooling... good on ya, best of luck with it. :cool:

nice work man, whered u find that??

keep us up to date on how everything goes!

How mcuh did the engine set u back?

And how hard is it to have it fitted etc?
COST ONLY $695 , HOW MUCH TO PUT IN , NOT SURE YET

:shock: SO CHEAP!!! whered u get it??????????????

nice work man, whered u find that??

keep us up to date on how everything goes!
WHEN I PICKED IT UP , ASKED THE BLOKE IF HE COULD GET MORE ,
HE SAID BRING IN SOME ROCKING HORSE **IT AND HE WILL TRY AND FIND ANOTHER

I take that as a 'no, there ain't no more' :bowrofl:

That car is gonna b off its tits on power. i like it.

cant wait 2 c and hear more, and for so cheap. excellent work

That car is gonna b off its tits on power. i like it.

cant wait 2 c and hear more, and for so cheap. excellent work
cross my fingers , im hoping for 220 kw , naturally aspirated , after i put the chip and extractors on it

I never knew the 3.5 fit the 2nd gen :S

What did it come out of?

I never knew the 3.5 fit the 2nd gen :S

What did it come out of?

i dont think it does......................unless u push hard enough :badgrin:

i dont think it does......................unless u push hard enough :badgrin:

lol funny stuff!

nicem8 if ur thinking on selling ur old engine cheap gimme a shout! astron2 engines fine and all.. but a v6 is much better :cool:

it is out of a mitsubishi debonaire , and yes it will fit straight in
when i put up the pic you will see , also yes my engine may be up for sale
also my extractors maybe

:shock: so its a str8 fit? wow, u learn sumthin new every day

what year was the DEBONAIR out of interest? 1998 yer? i think that was the only 2 come out with the 3.5L

it is out of a mitsubishi debonaire , and yes it will fit straight in
when i put up the pic you will see , also yes my engine may be up for sale
also my extractors maybe

What sorta extractors are they???

Cant wait to see the results of the conversion mate...

Daz

also yes my engine may be up for sale
also my extractors maybe

oooohhhh i would be interested in those if and when you sell them (the extractors that is already got the engine)

:shock: so its a str8 fit? wow, u learn sumthin new every day

what year was the DEBONAIR out of interest? 1998 yer? i think that was the only 2 come out with the 3.5L
1993 model debonaire , i think it is a bored out 3.0l , my box is a straight fit
and it looks the same as killbillys but 3.5l :badgrin:

also to any one who is interested in the engine and extractors , please wait , as i dont now what parts i need to take off my motor to put onto the new and if i can modify my extractors to fit the new engine , when i have worked it out i will post , thx to those who are interested

nicem8 please also contact me when you have decided on selling the 3.0l

Paul he's not talking about the SOHC 3.5 that are in the aussie magnas, he's talking about a DOHC import. It's basically just a 3.5 version of killbillys car, i was actually thinking of importing a 2.5 litre V6 DOHC, was gonna see if it bolts straight into the 4 cylinder, would be interesting to see some power figures on that engine, could be good for a nice little turbo ;).

Cant wait to see that bloody engine Norm...it's going to be mental :D

norm, i cant wait to see that thing go!, it already goes hard!!. Good luck with it and happy birthday for the other day 2!

make sure you post some pics :D

nicem8 please also contact me when you have decided on selling the 3.0l

nooooo!! i had 1st dibs i asked 1st! :cry: see??



nicem8 if ur thinking on selling ur old engine cheap gimme a shout!

ahh but you stipulated cheap lol.

Sell me your paras and i will not buy the motor;)

deal? lol

Great stuff Norm! Sounds good!

How long do you think the project might take? :)

Wow, thats a cheap price for the engine. For the engine i wanna put in a 626 im looking at 2500 +

Paul he's not talking about the SOHC 3.5 that are in the aussie magnas, he's talking about a DOHC import. It's basically just a 3.5 version of killbillys car, i was actually thinking of importing a 2.5 litre V6 DOHC, was gonna see if it bolts straight into the 4 cylinder, would be interesting to see some power figures on that engine, could be good for a nice little turbo ;).
yes, i quiet relised that :doubt:

Ok Here Is A Pick , Drool , I Now I Did All The Way Home

nice :D

Great stuff Norm! Sounds good!

How long do you think the project might take? :)
x fingers , i hope buy the end if march
the biggest problem i am having at the moment is the ecu
i havnt got the original and have to put in an after market
big big big dollars , i have asked on the diamante site so i hope they can help

norm, i cant wait to see that thing go!, it already goes hard!!. Good luck with it and happy birthday for the other day 2!

make sure you post some pics :D
thx trboy

do you need a new ECU? Didn't killbilly use his factory ECU, just re-wired?

yes, i quiet relised that :doubt:
Sorry, the way it sounded i thought you were talking about our 3.5.

do you need a new ECU? Didn't killbilly use his factory ECU, just re-wired?

Nah Kim I used the factory ecu from the Diamante with teh DOHC 24v.

The sohc one will run the dohc, but not properly...it coughs and splutters and runs like it's got 4 dead cylinders lol

nooooo!! i had 1st dibs i asked 1st! :cry: see??


[Brother to brother talk]

No you're not getting that engine, you have no idea how to move the engine mounts and second you have no contacts with a welder who is also a certified engineer. Moving and re-welding the engine mounts without an engineering certificate is illegal!

[Brother to brother talk]

No you're not getting that engine, you have no idea how to move the engine mounts and second you have no contacts with a welder who is also a certified engineer. Moving and re-welding the engine mounts without an engineering certificate is illegal!

TecoDAN - UR A BIG MEANY

Hey norm, if want a good aftermarket ECU then go the Haltech E11, my mate is puttin it in his V6 twin turbo lancer :)

also people who dont know much about the Debonair, here is some info and pic

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/debonair/1992_10/

TecoDAN - UR A BIG MEANY


lol its ok i understand... i was gonna purchase the engine and then leave it in the garage in the 1st place anyways until i found mountings in the wreckers or something and also was gonna look for a place where i can get an engerneers certificate- in not as stupid as i look. i wasnt gonna do this while i was on my L's! plus if i did buy the engine i wouldnt do it till im off my P's- parents plus the brother will slaughter me if i modify the car... dads already bitten my head off coz i mentioned lowereing the car.

TecoDAN - UR A BIG MEANY

Hey norm, if want a good aftermarket ECU then go the Haltech E11, my mate is puttin it in his V6 twin turbo lancer :)

also people who dont know much about the Debonair, here is some info and pic

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/debonair/1992_10/
thx mikey , i am interested in seeing how that haltech e11 works and the cost to fit it,
what v6 is he putting in , and who is doing the ecu
thx norm

JUST AN UPDATE , HAVNT BEEN ON THE SITE MUCH LATLEY , BUSY WORKING
HAVE FINALLY GOT MOST OF THE INFO I NEED TO START PUTTING THE MOTOR IN MY CAR.

SO THE FIRST THING IS TO ALL INTERESTED , I WILL BE SELLING MY EXTRACTORS AND MY ENGINE
EXTRACTORS
RPW EXTRACTORS , 1 YEAR OLD , HPC COATED , I HAVE HAD TO CHANGE ONE OF THE FLEX JOINTS AS IT STUFFED UP I PUT A BIGGER ONE ON AND THIS IS THE ONLY PART NOT HPC COATED , I WILL SELL IT RIGHT UP TO THE CAT , BUT NOT THE CAT
ENGINE
180,000 KLM SERVICED BUY MITSUBISHI 90% OF THE TIME , BLOWS A LITTLE SMOKE ON START UP , I HAVE HAD THE VALVE STEM SEALS REPLACED AND DID NOT FIX THE PROBLEM , MITSUBISHI THINKS IT IS A VALVE GUIDE PROBLEM , I HAVE OVER SEVICED THIS ENGINE ALL TIMING BELTS , SEALS YOU NAME IT HAS BEEN DONE , POLISHED PLENEM AND PAINTED TAPPETT COVERS , THIS IS A EXPORT MODEL AND HAS A BIGGER SUMP , SO I SUGGEST THAT IF YOU WANT THIS ENGINE BUY THE EXTRACTORS AS WELL , AS THE NORMAL HEADERS MAY NOT FIT , WE DID HAVE TO MODIFY THE EXTRACTORS TO FIT

PLEASE PM ME IF INTERESTED , I DO NOT NOW HOW MUCH TO ASK FOR , BUT ALL PROCEEDS WILL BE DONATED TO THE HELP ME PUT IN MY NEW ENGINE FOUNDATION :bowrofl: THX NORM

heh nice dude cant wait to see it, your car looks sweet i have the loud ass white tr with grey bumpers i have cruized past u heaps of times.

heh nice dude cant wait to see it, your car looks sweet i have the loud ass white tr with grey bumpers i have cruized past u heaps of times.
yea , thx dusty ferret , i think i have seen you , have you got a canon exhaust ,
norm

hey norm. long time bro! congrats on the engine. my buddy chrisso from sureflo told me he saw you and were talking about the extractors. are they still for sale? if they are ill take them as soon as you want. name the price. pm me your number again coz i lost it and ill give you a ring. cheers mate!

Just An Update On My Engine Change , Not Much Progress Has Happend , Needed To Buy Some New Cam Covers From Japan But Could Not Get Them , So We Are Having Some Fabricated From Fiberglass , The Plenem And A Few Other Parts Are Getting Sent To The Polishers , Injectors Are Getting Cleaned Oil Change And New Filter , Plugs ,just Doing A Service Now On My Old Motor So Hopefully Within My Next 10,000klm Service It Might Be Ready To Swap ,
But Dont Worry I Have The Motor Right Next To The Car So I Look At Every Day
Just For Insperation

We're all waiting with baited breath norm!! :D

Needed To Buy Some New Cam Covers From Japan
Hey the motor sounds like it will kill anything. This may sound stupid but what are cam covers. I think i know a bit about cars but i've never heared of cam covers.

Hey the motor sounds like it will kill anything. This may sound stupid but what are cam covers. I think i know a bit about cars but i've never heared of cam covers.
Cam covers are just rocker covers?

i mean cos these motors are overhead cam - i guess they can be called cam covers...

or am i completely wrong?:confused:

Cam covers are just rocker covers?

i mean cos these motors are overhead cam - i guess they can be called cam covers...

or am i completely wrong?:confused:
no rocker covers are the top ones, and the cam covers are the ones on the front of the engine

Cam covers are plastic covers that cover the cam gears. How many covers can you have in one sentence? lol

Cam covers are just rocker covers?

i mean cos these motors are overhead cam - i guess they can be called cam covers...

or am i completely wrong?:confused:

This is what I have been told also by a Mechanic also :D

I know there are some who have done the 6G72 DOHC N/A engine upgrade, but Is there anyone out there, who has completed a 6G72 DOHC Twin Turbo install ?
I am currently looking around for one of these engines if anyone has any more information of why I should go for the N/A or the TT (other than the extra $$$ that is - which may be the deciding factor anyway :doubt: ).


Just An Update On My Engine Change , Not Much Progress Has Happend , Needed To Buy Some New Cam Covers From Japan But Could Not Get Them , So We Are Having Some Fabricated From Fiberglass , The Plenem And A Few Other Parts Are Getting Sent To The Polishers , Injectors Are Getting Cleaned Oil Change And New Filter , Plugs ,just Doing A Service Now On My Old Motor So Hopefully Within My Next 10,000klm Service It Might Be Ready To Swap ,
But Dont Worry I Have The Motor Right Next To The Car So I Look At Every Day
Just For Insperation

I will be in New Zealand in a month or so, might take a look through a few auto parts recyclers to find an engine for my TS. Is the 6G72 DOHC 24 valve the best to go for? (easiest swap?)

Has anyone ever looked at importing an engine from NZ before?

I will be in New Zealand in a month or so, might take a look through a few auto parts recyclers to find an engine for my TS...
:stoopid:

Kim,

While your there, if you see more than one (first one’s yours of course), jump onto a PC somewhere and keep this site updated. Maybe you could get a few parts together in a shoe-box and we could all share in the freight somehow ??? :pray:

I would be interested in an engine as well (maybe) – see my Wanted post:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=253411#post253411

and while this thread is discussing DOHC engines, does anyone have a definitive list of the engines ? I have seen many websites that quote different KW and even some that say there were different 3.0L DOHC 6G72 engines produced with different KW – How are we to know the difference – engine numbers maybe. :headbange

Here is some of the differing stats I have found from just 2-3 websites… :rant:

6A12 2.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 147kw
6A12 2.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 147kw

6A13 2.5 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 206kw

6G72 3.0 litre SOHC - Base Magna 120kw
6G72 3.0 litre SOHC - Base Magna 140kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC 150kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC 157kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC GDI 176kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 198kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 180kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 206kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 208kw

6G73 2.5 litre DOHC GDI 147kw

6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Base Magna 147 - 155kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC GDI - Pajero 162kw
6G74 3.0 litre DOHC 163kw
6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Sports/VR-X spec 163kw
6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Ralliart 180kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC MIVEC 191kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC 194kw

in japan don't they down size the true power figure?? legal limiting at about 206kw as the evo is rated?? i'm not sure but i read the power of the tt dohc as 250kw and about 450nm's

6A12 2.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 147kw
6A12 2.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 147kw

6A13 2.5 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 206kw

6G72 3.0 litre SOHC - Base Magna 120kw
6G72 3.0 litre SOHC - Base Magna 140kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC 150kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC 157kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC GDI 176kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 198kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 180kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 206kw
6G72 3.0 litre DOHC Twin Turbo 208kw

6G73 2.5 litre DOHC GDI 147kw

6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Base Magna 147 - 155kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC GDI - Pajero 162kw
6G74 3.0 litre DOHC 163kw
6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Sports/VR-X spec 163kw
6G74 3.5 litre SOHC - Ralliart 180kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC MIVEC 191kw
6G74 3.5 litre DOHC 194kw

Not sure if you made a typo there or not..but there's no such thing as a 6G74 3.0 litre, the 74 in the code means 3.5 litre.

Yes there were 2 different types of DOHC engine from 1990-1993, and from 94+

The 90-93 had 202hp n/a and 300hp in TT,

94's had about a 20 hp gain on that. 220 and 320hp respectively

90-93 had a crank angle sensor, 94+ had a crank and cam angle sensor (or it was the other way around Im not quite sure on that)

Other way to tell is that the 90-93's had 3 plugs for the ECU and the 94+ has 4 plugs.

would the 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 198kw fit in the TS? (are all the 6G72's the same sort of thing).

I don't know how many 6G72's will fit in a shoe box, hehe, but yeah - if I find some good stuff while I'm there I'll keep you posted.

I know there are some who have done the 6G72 DOHC N/A engine upgrade, but Is there anyone out there, who has completed a 6G72 DOHC Twin Turbo install ?
I am currently looking around for one of these engines if anyone has any more information of why I should go for the N/A or the TT (other than the extra $$$ that is - which may be the deciding factor anyway :doubt: ).
i saw on ebay a day or so ago someone has 3 twin turbo 3000GTs freshly imported that he wants to sell in parts. Either its a scam, or a good way to get a twin turbo motor

would the 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 198kw fit in the TS? (are all the 6G72's the same sort of thing).
I'm with Kim on this. would you need to move mounts if you started with a V6? Cos if you would I'd stick with my car until I could afford one with a manual trans. Also what model did they come out in. I am shocking with part/engine names.

ok im completely gone with the v6 motors, but with the 3000gt motor is that the MIVEC engine? if not which car was the MIVEC engine planted in?

Not sure if you made a typo there or not..but there's no such thing as a 6G74 3.0 litre, the 74 in the code means 3.5 litre...

yeah 3.5 litre - oops :doh:

would the 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC MIVEC 198kw fit in the TS? (are all the 6G72's the same sort of thing).

I don't know how many 6G72's will fit in a shoe box, hehe, but yeah - if I find some good stuff while I'm there I'll keep you posted.


Nah the 3.0l MIVEC is the same orientation as the 6G74 and 6G72 sohc 24v (3rd gen V6)

But the DOHC 24v 6G74 3.5l V6 is the same orientation as the 6G72 sohc 12 and dohc 24v 3.0l (2nd gen V6)

So that's the bees knees of engines right there.

Unless someone can find an 8A80 and see which way that's oriented because I have a feeling it's the same as the 2nd gen V6...

Hojo, the MIVEC 3.0l was from the 1995 diamante 30M (3rd gen magna shape)

The 3000GT motor is a standard DOHC 24v 6G72 3.0l non mivec.

Okay, I have more questions (and probably more to come), so to be fair to nicem8, I'll take this discussion out of this thread so we can leave this thread to the original topic of his engine upgrade.

My new thread can be found here: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18321

Nicem8, please update us when you progress your project - it sounds great ! Will love to hear more as you go.