Just fitted my new whiteline strut brace

Don’t no how good it is

I am now getting more lift in the front when I plant it (bad)

Getting less under steer (good)

The ride is smoother (good)

But when I plant around a corner tries are giving way not due to under steer but too much power, I need more traction (bad???)

Before the Strut Brace when I plant it around a corner it could under steer and I could accelerate until I start too slide across the road

NOW with Strut brace I plant it around a corner I don’t get less under steer but I get wheel spin (like when you plant it off a set of lights)

The tires are giving way in a different direction (straight not side ways)

Can anyone explain??

I'll have a stab at it - your strut brace means that the shock towers can't flex (or bend inwards), so you are seeing more sideways force coming out at the tyres whereas previously some of it went into bending the shock towers.

Remember your tyres only have a certain amount of force that can be applied before they lose grip - now since the sideways component has increased the forward component has decreased.

You'll have to play around with your driving style until you figure out a way to make the best of your new situation. You should find you're a bit quicker through the corners now than before.

Well look on teh bright side - you can still power out of a corner quicker with one wheel spinning then with major under steer!!

Next maybe you should look at some wider tyres to help with tration - I have 225's on my stock 15" rims - and they are great in the dry!!! I can hammer around corners much quicker then I used to be able to (only on my race days of course :D ) but yeah - maybe look at some better tyres

The lift at the front - have you lowered your car any - I didn't get any additional lift - but the strut bar doesn't affect front end lift - it may reduce torque steer as it is holding the struts straight - but maybe you should look into lower suspension or anti lift kits to reduce throttle on lift.

Manual

Manual

His car is as low as mine and the rims are 18*8 or so..
So it isnt any of that.
Haydn

Hmm in that case I spose the next thing to do is get an LSD!! - you must be hammering around corners cos I take mine fairly hard but I know the limits of my car as well!!

Manual

More on the anti-lift stuff.. I found this document (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/articles/Effect_of_WL_ALK_a.pdf) which explains how the anti-lift stuff works.. apparently it actually increases roll and pitch.. bizarre.. but does make a big difference to grip through corners, so something like this might help out in your situation.

I went and re-read the autospeed.com article where they fitted the ALK to a WRX - they reckon it made a huge difference, and the increased castor angle you'll get should improve turn-in too, which is an added bonus.

So far I've seen reports that it stops the front end kicking up under accelleration even though the whileline article claims it should increase that. The autospeed article specifically mentioned that they didn't notice any increased pitch or roll. I've been calling around to suspension shops in Darwin asking about them but so far all I've found is a few people who have fitted them but don't actually know what they do.

On a different note..

I haven't got a strut brace and I get lots of wheel spin around hard corners, which tends to make the car understeer, obviously.. but in my case I think it is because I'm getting too much side-wall flex and actually running on the shoulder of the tyre (damn stock 65 profile tyres!). Checked your tyre pressure lately? :)

tyre pressure is @ 40PSI tyres 235/40/R18 Ventus K???

not a bad tyre, better than other tires i have had before

speed around the corner i think has increase a little

if i change my driving style i think i can go around the corner alot quicker
with the strut brace (which is a good thing, hehehe)

torque steer has reduced (yeah)

over all i think i am happy with the purchase for somthin under $200 it has made a noticable difference

anyone know of any other product under $1000 that make a noticable difference


thanks

tyre pressure is @ 40PSI tyres 235/40/R18 Ventus K???

not a bad tyre, better than other tires i have had before

speed around the corner i think has increase a little

if i change my driving style i think i can go around the corner alot quicker
with the strut brace (which is a good thing, hehehe)

torque steer has reduced (yeah)

over all i think i am happy with the purchase for somthin under $200 it has made a noticable difference

anyone know of any other product under $1000 that make a noticable difference


thanks

Filter?
TB?
Short Shifter?
Muffler?
Extractors?
:D :D :D :D :D

whats a TB??


i have filter, muffler already

dont no if short shifter and extractors are going to make much differnce??


thanks

TB ... Maybe TurBo?
or me TBuTcher? .... yeah, get my car that'll make it go faster :D
Extractos will help... but if like me you are wanting to change to a Turbo setup then you are double spending....
So ill be hanging off getting the extractors....and saving for the Turbo =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ .
Short shifter would halp you change gears quicker maybe... thats how it would help speed up your car.

Dont forget Clutch upgrade.... so you can slam it fast on the gear changes.

Haydn

I think he means Throttle Bodies (bored out)
Guru

or i suppose he could be subliminally thinking about TButcher.. but you never know :? :D

TURBO is what iam saving for

Short shifter iam already change to quick for hte gear box (hehehe)

i have a upgraded clucth already

i want products that can justify the price tag

I think some one said you may be able to pick upi second hand LSD's for under 1K - about 800 bucks or so!!

and yes TB is throttle body - but to really take effect of that a FPR is recommended

And then I would be looking at aftermarket ECU or different CAMs

Manual

Do you have a rear sway bar?

Also look at changing out your bushes from rubber ones to neoprene or polyerathane?? **I think thats what they are from memory**

Manual

i think its polyeurethane except they are noisy..
i got some replaced on my TR with polyeurethane (the red stuff) and they make so much noise its not funny..

how much am i looking at for the bushes

i do have a sway bar IF it come standard (1999 TH exec)


the $800 for LSD is that fitted and how do i get one

Guys i wouldnt have thought that you should replace your bushes as a "peformance" upgrade - i would only personally do it if i had to replace them anyway..

mitsiman (ithink) said on here before that it reduces the way the engine rolls and moves when taking off but i would have thought you're really clutching at straws to go to these lengths for the sake of extra performance?!

I havent seen them replaced and felt the difference so i could be proven wrong but thats what makes sense to me though..

the reason that i replaced the bushes with polyeurethane in my TS was that i had an oil leak coming from the rear head that oil was saturating the wishbone bushes and degraded them - the polyeurethane ones arent affected by oil and dont break down.. we tried to fix the oil leak but after replacing the head gasket and still finding the oil leaking we decided that it must be warped :(

Ohwell.
GuRu

Guru,

I think you are referring to the engine mounts. We on the other hand were talking about the bushes at the ends of the supension struts. These are stiffer than rubber and reduce the roll and sway as well.

The 800 LSD i don't think is fitted sorry.

Manual

i do have a sway bar IF it come standard (1999 TH exec)

AFAIK the sway bar only comes standard on the Sports and VR-X models, so no you won't have one.. but you can buy one from somewhere like Whiteline for $242

[quote:79ce82c95f="megatron"]i do have a sway bar IF it come standard (1999 TH exec)

AFAIK the sway bar only comes standard on the Sports and VR-X models, so no you won't have one.. but you can buy one from somewhere like Whiteline for $242[/quote:79ce82c95f]

If you don't have a rear sway bar that will be your prob, the same thing happened when i got a strut brace in my lancer. When i took a corner it lost control really easily, I think it's to do with the front being stiffer than the back.

I got a rear sway bar and it was much better, it's adjustable so i can set it to oversteer or understeer.

The strut brace as said is to stop flex in the towers or to hold the front wheels in the camber you have them set at, Fine as long as the car has no body roll, so when fitting lowered springas and struts?shocks you yes have a car that can control the swaying around corners but you still have a car with body roll, being front wheel drive you lift a wheel slightly and you get massive wheel spin. the fix is simply getting heavier rated sway bars. The standard magna front bar is 22mm, stick a 24mm bar on it and you have 40-50% stiffer rating add a rear bar at around 20mm and the car will sit flat as a pancake into the corners hole the tyres to the road better and fix the massive wheel spin you get, instead when you push to hard you will 4 wheel drift, much nicer experience.