Ay howz it going all...

Just like to ask what mods would be needed to get the Magnas down to a 12s and still keeping it NA...

The things that are currently on the car are, extractors, high flow cat and cat back system, the thing that have been planned for this year is Greedy e manage system and bigger throttle body, short shifter and maybe LSD so i can launch bit harder.... hopefull that would bring me down to the low 14s and high 13s....

Is it just my car or 3rd gear doesnt pull? my 3rd is really pulling me down... just wondering if its a problem only in my car... or ish it with all magnas....

Any Advise would be much appriciated....


I am trying to take down :gtfo: the WRXs, Skylines, 200sx, etc....

and put the magnas up there LOL :cool: :badgrin: any help would be great.... any NSW peoples that are ready this just look for my car at the creek on Weds night... ill probably start going again in April some time.... im currently pushing out 138Kw at the wheel... im running a 14.02 at the moment

welome to amc mate, i'm Rhys Sydney Division #18
is that ur car mate?
where did u get the kit from??
more pics of the back mate,
very nice
cheers
Rhys

Got a slip for that 14.02?, cause if you do, you whould have the fastest NA Magna at the moment, a nice acheivment seeing the latest push into the 14's by Magnas :P

Also nice car :D

yeh how much did your body kit cost you and the front bar by itself i wanna do something simlar although not the same as i want something unique.

by the way your car looks trick the only thing i would do is put some chunckier side skirts on it. Any chance of some photos of th rear of the car.

cheers
jaz

Got a slip for that 14.02?, cause if you do, you whould have the fastest NA Magna at the moment, a nice acheivment seeing the latest push into the 14's by Magnas :P
Yeah. That's very fast for a fairly unmodified car. Good one.

I am trying to take down :gtfo: the WRXs, Skylines, 200sx, etc....

and put the magnas up there LOL :cool: :badgrin: any help would be great.... any NSW peoples that are ready this just look for my car at the creek on Weds night... ill probably start going again in April some time.... im currently pushing out 138Kw at the wheel... im running a 14.02 at the moment[/QUOTE]



is this for real..... this even beat a ralliart and a vrx with the lot

ay sorry for not making it clear... the quarter was timed on the streets... was measured out on a stock barina and timed on a phone lol ... so doubt its true.... but dats da only time ive got... and i was getting that consistanly... dats why i want to go to da creek and get a proper time...

Sorry for any confusion... :cry: my bad.....

I got the kit from Jet Speed... the kit altogether cost me $2870
not quiet sure how much the front bar alone cost me sorry...

there will be more pics comming in soon sorry about the delay on the pics...

o yea sorry again for not making it clear...

Don't worry, heaps of us have timed ourselves. I tried it once and got a 14.5. I knew it wouldn't be right but it was fun trying. When I ran down the strip I did a 15.5.

Anyway, as far as mods go: cams, head / plenum work, larger TB (or even a 6 pack?), higher compression and dyno tune will grant more ponies. It just won't be cheap. Don't expect 12's though. The guys who have turbo's are only in the 12's.

I reckon with a set of Stage 2 style cams, head work, twin throttle bodies (or one of Booya/Street Torque's AU Falcon throttle bodies) you could run mid 13s N/A and still be a daily driver. Add a shot of nitrous and you could take that into the high 12s. Whether you could still consider that N/A though is probably a point of contention :doubt:

wow!!! that is a powerful kit!!! very strong!!

with nitrous it would still be N/A......or you could do all of this and then blow it and have the fastest magna in australia possibly....hmm that would be a good bragging point

with nitrous it would still be N/A......or you could do all of this and then blow it and have the fastest magna in australia possibly....hmm that would be a good bragging point
Well, the fastest is currently almost a flat 12 so it won't be cheap to achieve.

Any chance of bringing your car on the NSW cruise 2morrow???

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14488

You'll need some more work to get down to the low 14's and more again to hit the high 13's. I managed a 14.197 out of my ralliart and thats got somewhere between 150-160kw's at the wheels, she needs a retune because i changed the air intake back to stock.
For super quick times you will need ultimate high compression N/A. This would consist of 10.5:1 compression, Stage 2 cams, port and polished heads, twin throttle body setup and definatly an LSD to get off the mark.
These engine mods are all well and good but you have to get off the line!! A stronger engine mount will reduce torque steer, a front anit lift kit and stiff rear shocks will keep the nose from lifting, plus good sticky tyres all come together to make a fast run
We will be racing at WSID on the 30th of march so would be good if u came out that nigh for a race, if not come on the cruise tomorrow!!

whats the fastest TR/TS only N/A please thou?

i would say KB's would be fastest n/a TS (TS right KB?) tho he hasnt run it down a strip

When it gets this misfiring sorted out I would dare say it would be the quickest, but I'm still yet to put it on the track

12's are out of reach for a road bearing Magna.

You would need extencive lightening of the chassis, a totaly new drive train, a totaly different engine and about $60 dollars.

a 3.5 or 3 L motor just couldn't push (or pull in the fwd way of saying it) a magna to a 12.

sif :gtfo:

I have held off from saying anything for a while, but.........turbo_charade, i seriously dont get how you have the nerve to be on a magna forum and frequently hang sh!t on them. Honestly, do have have mental problems?

You do understand that you drive a charade? Do everyone a favour a *** off to a charade forum :gtfo:

will be hard to drive the car on the road running 12s and n/a. You'll need:
Higher compression
ported/polished head
6 throttle bodies
CAI
lsd
new shocks/springs
wide rubber
stage 2 cams wont be enough. You'll need some custom gear. Something that makes your car sound like its ready to stall
bored out to 3.8L
NOS maybe...

thats the gist of it...

basically you're looking at over 15 grand worth of mods. Goodluk...

NOS is not N/A, and its not Forced Induction, its CHEATING :doubt:

NOS is not N/A, and its not Forced Induction, its CHEATING :doubt:

as is turboing a n/a car
supercharging a n/a car
doing an engine swap

doesnt matter these days. If you can get your car to run a quick time all that matters is that it can.. not how.

as is turboing a n/a car
supercharging a n/a car
doing an engine swap

doesnt matter these days. If you can get your car to run a quick time all that matters is that it can.. not how.
Yes, but the difference is that your three examples can all be street legal & daily driven, while NOS....is not.

In my view, a car that performs as well on the road as it can down the strip is a much more complete, potent and desirable machine than one relying on happy gas.

hmmm to get into the 12's.....i have a good idea for a mod.....forced induction! its the only way its going to happenw ithout a squillion dollars being spent

What was Booya running N/A? Cause I'd imagine that'd be a pretty good indicator for how quick a Magna could run N/A... I've never heard of anyone else with such extensive N/A work..

lol booya's car ran 15.0, but he had a list of excuses longer than his list of modifications so who knows, i know of stock magna's running 15.0 aswell lol , but yeah, i think TZAboy has run a 14.1 at 155km/h or something, which is a good time, but more power would be needed to keep it pulling hard at the finishing end of the strip.....to run 12's in a fwd you need a terminal speed probably in the high 170's, maybe more i dunno.

later :cool:

ps. my whole post was one sentance lol

as is turboing a n/a car
supercharging a n/a car
doing an engine swap

doesnt matter these days. If you can get your car to run a quick time all that matters is that it can.. not how.

no, they are all PERMANENT, NOS is only TEMPORARY. I liken it to a 100m sprinter running with a gale force wind behind him. Times dont count in those circumstances, and rightly so.

Ay Guys

Thanks for all the advise guys i will try my best to get my magna down to 12s... and get the magnas up there :D

I think its about time we smack out those sport cars and put the magnas on the list :cool:

hopefully i will be seeing some of you guys at creek soon... or hopefully ya next cruize...

take care all....

I have held off from saying anything for a while, but.........turbo_charade, i seriously dont get how you have the nerve to be on a magna forum and frequently hang sh!t on them. Honestly, do have have mental problems?

You do understand that you drive a charade? Do everyone a favour a *** off to a charade forum :gtfo:
1200kg toranas need 250kw's to run 12's

and how did i hang **** on a magna in that post? i only pointed out physical limitations

and with whatever NA mods you could do to get a mid 13 out of one, it would be far from legal.

not to repeat myself but i do believe that a stockish ralliart ran 14.1, that is without cams, headwork, etc. are these mods not legal? i reckon with a bit of practise and more mods that mid 13's may be possible with this magna. Remember that he does have an LSD, but yeah i see wha your saying, 12's out of an N/a magna would not be streetable. ie. possible physically (F1 engine are 3L and putting out huge power, but not streetable lol).

good luck on getting hopefulyl into the 13's N/A , that would be more than quick enough for a magna !

later :cool:

1200kg toranas need 250kw's to run 12's

and how did i hang **** on a magna in that post? i only pointed out physical limitations

my post wasnt really in reference to that particular post, but to a few things you have said recently. With regards to this topic, i tend to agree, however i dont think its the place of a charade driver to say it.

why would it matter what i drive?

your opinion on magnas holds no value to me when you dont even own one

what about my knowledge of having worked on a fair few, not to mention having rebuilt my whole car from scratch, motors are pretty much all the same and a magna is just a chassis with a motor.

u must have a few $$$ in yor pockets

or some decent sponsors on board..




12's is a big ask out of a N/A magna, but im sure with the right amount of $$$ it can be done.

good luck mate.

your opinion on magnas holds no value to me when you dont even own one

Does that mean that my opinion also holds no value to you cause i no longer own a magna or are you just to ignorant to accept someone elses input into a subject that they might have some knowledge of even if they don't own a magna... :flame:

Grow up :fruitcake

u must have a few $$$ in yor pockets

or some decent sponsors on board..




12's is a big ask out of a N/A magna, but im sure with the right amount of $$$ it can be done.

good luck mate.

I'm sure it can be done. But I can garentee it will be no wear near street drivable.

It would probablly require 2-3,000rpm to idle without stalling lol

what about my knowledge of having worked on a fair few, not to mention having rebuilt my whole car from scratch, motors are pretty much all the same and a magna is just a chassis with a motor.
and he pretty much knows tm-se-reds car, and sees what it gets out of what mods, so would have a better idication than some ppl who have driving magnas there whole life

Does that mean that my opinion also holds no value to you cause i no longer own a magna or are you just to ignorant to accept someone elses input into a subject that they might have some knowledge of even if they don't own a magna... :flame:

Grow up :fruitcake

calm down. Input is good, i have just found over the last little while that turbo_charade has got on my nerves cos he had nothing positive to say. Im not saying what he says is right or wrong, cos thats not the point, im just saying its like me going onto a charade forum and pointing out all the negative aspects of charades ---> i just wouldnt do it.

I believe I read in some 'unbiased' holden v ford waffle mag that the XR6 Turbo was running a low 14sec pass in standard guise.

Thats like 240kw and 500nm yeah? Sure the car weights 4000lb, but I can't even take a 182kw Falcon in my Magna :cry:

calm down. Input is good, i have just found over the last little while that turbo_charade has got on my nerves cos he had nothing positive to say. Im not saying what he says is right or wrong, cos thats not the point, im just saying its like me going onto a charade forum and pointing out all the negative aspects of charades ---> i just wouldnt do it.

why not? its my input, it might be a little more down to earth than some "yeah man, get nos stage 5 cams and a 4.9 diff and u'll run 11's" but its still just my input. im pretty sure there is a ignore user command somewhere if it gets your back up so badly.

m just saying its like me going onto a charade forum and pointing out all the negative aspects of charades ---> i just wouldnt do it.
there are charade forums lol :shock:

there are charade forums lol :shock:
yeah but there are only 3 users :P and they are all hairdressers

yeah but there are only 3 users :P and they are all hairdressers

Doesnt that say something

that you cant pick up sarcasm http://forums.eis.net.au/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

hairdressers

whats wrong with hairdressers? :confused:

I believe I read in some 'unbiased' holden v ford waffle mag that the XR6 Turbo was running a low 14sec pass in standard guise.

Thats like 240kw and 500nm yeah? Sure the car weights 4000lb, but I can't even take a 182kw Falcon in my Magna :cry:
Yeah man, xr6 T manual running 14.2-14.3 with eas if the driver is half decent

thanks for the input guys its much appriciated...

Turbo Charade thanks for da input bro...

doesnt matter wat car u drive just gotta know wtf ya talking about
LOL....


aight thanks guys...

time 2 get 2 work on da car LOL

What is wrong with u all...STICKERS

turbo_charade: im not talking about this thread, i just choose this one to say something finally. I said it before, i actually think you are probably right in this thread.

EZ Boy: you have an AWD dont you? im not surprised you cant keep up with n/a XR6's. they are around 140rwKw, and your AWD im guessing would be around 105-110fwkW due to AWD drivetrain losses. AWD magnas are also quite a bit heavier than FWD versions.

Ive given a few xr6t's grief on the streets... perhaps they just sucky drivers :(
*shrug*



Bring on the mods!

Well with the XR6 turbs... i take them on launch stay in front till
bout mid 2 end of 2nd... n third they pull in n pull away :cry: :rant: ... dam
dicks LOL....

i got :owned: with a xr6 turb wif front mount and blow off LOL... dont ask y i ran him... i think i was :nuts:

but those xr6 turbs go hard... if they dont sit there cooking LOL :bowrofl:

I like computers
http://neilk.customer.netspace.net.au/smiley/nerd2.jpg

EZ Boy: you have an AWD dont you? im not surprised you cant keep up with n/a XR6's. they are around 140rwKw, and your AWD im guessing would be around 105-110fwkW due to AWD drivetrain losses. AWD magnas are also quite a bit heavier than FWD versions.

Doesn't mean I have to like it :angry:

I like computers
http://neilk.customer.netspace.net.au/smiley/nerd2.jpg

that was random..

Doesn't mean I have to like it :angry:

haha, well im sure you would kill an XR6 through the hills :D

ha ha ha if u ahve enough sticker u might, probably should get a huge greddy one lol

ha ha ha if u ahve enough sticker u might, probably should get a huge greddy one lol

I'll put it next to my "Magic Happens", "Baby On Board", "Ralliart", "Playboy", "HSV", "XXXX Lager", "Real Aussies Drive Utes", "Honky If You're Horny" and "No Turbo, But I'd Still Like To Be Blown.." stickers. :D

Did I miss any??