I have discovered some possible rust in my car (TJ Magna) and like to get an idea how much is it to repair. The last time I called around, I was quoted $35 just to get a quote to repair it.

The rust location are:
1: About 2x the area of a 50c coin in the middle of the bonnet. I assumed it is rust coz the paintwork cracked.

2: About 2cm length on the underside corner edge of the boot lid.

3: Around the hole approx. 1.5cm dia under the boot lid where the rubber seat is.

How much am I expecting to get this repair for each section? Anyone can recommend me a good rust repairer in Sydney (in terms of quality work and price), preferably between Strathfield to Central?

Thanks

I'd say be prepared to pay up to $400.
Make sure you get quotes from as many places as possible and inspect their work on other cars while you're there.
Also when you pick up your car, check for overspray. I really dirty car is a sign of a possible cover-up.

Don't Mitsubishi have some warranty for rust?

Better ask Uncle Tom to fix his "Better Built, Better Backed" car... :doubt:

Item 3 was previously repaird under warranty, but the rust reappear. The car is now out of warranty. Do you still think they will repair Item 3 free of charge given the rust has been reappear? They didn't give me any paperwork to support my claim though.


Don't Mitsubishi have some warranty for rust?

Better ask Uncle Tom to fix his "Better Built, Better Backed" car... :doubt:

1: About 2x the area of a 50c coin in the middle of the bonnet. I assumed it is rust coz the paintwork cracked.
Thanks

Unless the bonnet has had a stone chip in that area, this may not be rust.

I recently put the pressure on my dealer to re spray my front skirt, after I found paint flaking (under wheel arch), now the skirt is not made of metal. He sprayed the the full front bra as a gesture of good will (at least thats what the letter said).

The cause of this may be poor paint prep work.
In the case of metal - between coats, metal prep (some times Zinc phospate), base primer, color, top coat.

Paint work should last at least 10 years, if looked after.

The job should not be a spot fix but a full panel respray watch out, a chep job may not be the best answer.

OK, I got a quote today. They quoted me $400 for repaint the whole bonnet. Is this reasonable?

They told me the cracked paint is caused by bird dropping dissolving the paint or something. Can you believe it?

They told me the cracked paint is caused by bird dropping dissolving the paint or something. Can you believe it?

I have heard of this quite a few times before and yes it is believable... also sap from some trees can literally fuse itself into the paintwork... There is a few trees here which have this kind of sap... and the myall had to be above one of work's carparks...

So for next time, if I remove the bird droppings within 24 hours, is it ok or does it dissolve the paint almost immediately?


I have heard of this quite a few times before and yes it is believable... also sap from some trees can literally fuse itself into the paintwork... There is a few trees here which have this kind of sap... and the myall had to be above one of work's carparks...

what bird dropping are made of acid. they are magna killers :shock:

Bloody birds. With the water restriction, I dont wash the car that often. Dont know why my car gets all the poo and the neighbours dont!

Just strange.

So for next time, if I remove the bird droppings within 24 hours, is it ok or does it dissolve the paint almost immediately?

I just wouldnt leave it on there for more than a week...

Speaking of bloody birds - i washed my car yesterday and the turds have already soiled the maggie twice :rant:

What kind of birds have this kind of toxic droppings? This is the first time I heard of such thing.

Edit: Will turtle wax help protect from these toxic stuff?

NEVER park your car for a WEEK UNDER A TREE at the Airport's Long Term Parking... :shock:

All Birds will do it.

I presume your car is a dark colour and possibly metalic.
Dark Green and blue is worst for this, but it can happen to any colour.

There are hundreds of smash repairs in your target area. if there is rust in an area you are worried about, ask them to cut it out. your bonnet would obviously not be though. If they are going to cut any rust out ask for that piece to be left in the car. I find that people are happy when you give them the metal you cut from there car. They then know it was done properly.

Mine is White... non-metallic.

Will turtle waxing your car prevent that toxic stuff?


All Birds will do it.

I presume your car is a dark colour and possibly metalic.
Dark Green and blue is worst for this, but it can happen to any colour.

There are hundreds of smash repairs in your target area. if there is rust in an area you are worried about, ask them to cut it out. your bonnet would obviously not be though. If they are going to cut any rust out ask for that piece to be left in the car. I find that people are happy when you give them the metal you cut from there car. They then know it was done properly.

OK, I got a quote today. They quoted me $400 for repaint the whole bonnet. Is this reasonable?

They told me the cracked paint is caused by bird dropping dissolving the paint or something. Can you believe it?

$400 is ok as long as that use the right stuff, 2pack polurethan gives the best results, the stuff cost $180 for 4lt thay would only use a fraction of this to do the job most of it will come from labour (prep work, mathcing the color). Dont get an epoxy finish as it will yellow and crows feet on prolonged exposure to the enviroment. :rant:

Yes bird crap can effect paint no it will not disolve the paint but the acidity of it can affect the top coat (clear coat). once this is penetrated it then allows water / the weather to get under your paint, and thus forms cracks :cry:
(this is due to expansion contraction of the joint as water travels througn it.)

look at some of the job in his shop, check the match accuracy and look to see how he did the blend, dont let him "piss it out" (common practice to achive a color mach, esay way to match) as this will cause a reduction in gloss of the pissed out are and may in the future cause dull spots in the paint work. :rant:

Well... the car is already in the workshop as of yesterday. What kind of finish is the norm.? Is there any ways to protect the top coat from bird crap from penetrating it?


$400 is ok as long as that use the right stuff, 2pack polurethan gives the best results, the stuff cost $180 for 4lt thay would only use a fraction of this to do the job most of it will come from labour (prep work, mathcing the color). Dont get an epoxy finish as it will yellow and crows feet on prolonged exposure to the enviroment. :rant:

Yes bird crap can effect paint no it will not disolve the paint but the acidity of it can affect the top coat (clear coat). once this is penetrated it then allows water / the weather to get under your paint, and thus forms cracks :cry:
(this is due to expansion contraction of the joint as water travels througn it.)

look at some of the job in his shop, check the match accuracy and look to see how he did the blend, dont let him "piss it out" (common practice to achive a color mach, esay way to match) as this will cause a reduction in gloss of the pissed out are and may in the future cause dull spots in the paint work. :rant:

Well... the car is already in the workshop as of yesterday. What kind of finish is the norm.? Is there any ways to protect the top coat from bird crap from penetrating it?

depending on price, 2 pack polyurathane, or one pack epoxy are the mos popular. If thay are usin PPG product good chance it will be a polurathane system.
As for protection, get them to prep the full car and look at a product called dimind protection from spicer hacker, or some thing similar. (high build, clear coating)
this will give a prtective coating but also give the car a deep wet look colour to the final product. Its good for stone chip, yes even bird crap. it will reduce the chance of this happening again.
Now a cheep option would be to wash of bird crap asap.

I have tissues + bottel of H20 in the car for that particular reason.

good luck with this.

2 pac paint means there is a hardener added, hence the 2 in the name. the smash repairs should use 2 pac. and they don't buy paint in lots for your job. They will have a paint mixing room where they will get your paint code off your car and enter it into their computer, they will then mix up your colour and colour match from that. Being white there is no "top coat" or clear. it is painted White over the primer or hi fill. there is also no blends on a solid panel. There is no need if the painter can colour match well. This blending is for metalics so that the 'lie' of the metal flake can be blended so there is no visible paint change.

keep the fresh paint clean of bird crap, and polish your car regularly.

BTW. PPG doesn't have the best product. They have the best marketting. Most panel shops will use what they are happy with and what works best for them.

Remember that the cost of your repairs includes the sand paper, primer, paint stripper, Masking tape and paper, colour matching and workshop costs. It all adds up.

OK guys, I got the car back. But on close inspection, I saw cracked paintwork on driver side panel and on the roof. However, they have not crack open yet, just crack line in the paintwork. Is there a way to do something to prevent another expensive respray? I just went to put on some turtle wax onto it for the time being.

Thanks