View Full Version : Cam choices for a 3ltr
SLO3L
21-03-2005, 10:34 PM
I'm looking at a cams upgrade in the future and just wondering whats the possible options for them? I know there is the forbidden company, but....do anyone else make em?
Thanks in Advance.
some ppl on here were looking into the crow cams but found out they werent looking into it,
u could get a regrind or somthing ive been told but no one does a new billet
Asylum
22-03-2005, 05:25 AM
i know a lot of people bag RPW, but u shouldn't have a problem with they're stage 1's, and apparently all u need to get the stage 2's to work properly is different valve springs?
Redav
22-03-2005, 07:09 AM
i know a lot of people bag RPW, but u shouldn't have a problem with they're stage 1's, and apparently all u need to get the stage 2's to work properly is different valve springs?
And adjustable cam gears.
RPW are the only ones to offer cams for the car. No one else can get billets apparently. You could always go a regrind but I don't that's the right way to go.
cthulhu
22-03-2005, 07:16 AM
It might be worth sending a PM to Booya. He's got custom cams in his beast and I don't think they came from RPW.
BOosted' BOoya
22-03-2005, 07:22 AM
And adjustable cam gears.
RPW are the only ones to offer cams for the car. No one else can get billets apparently. You could always go a regrind but I don't that's the right way to go.
and why wouldnt it be the right way to go?
what would be the difference from a someone who knows what they are doing with rgrounds to a mentioned company's billited ones?
if you know exactly what degrees, lift and timing, why would you not get a reground set made to your specifications not some off the shelf hasbeenknowntocauseproblems set from a workshop known in this thread?
ever heard of a set of regrinded cams failing :doubt:
Redav
22-03-2005, 07:38 AM
It might be worth sending a PM to Booya. He's got custom cams in his beast and I don't think they came from RPW.
:doubt: - thought they were
ever heard of a set of regrinded cams failing :doubt:
It's not about failing. Every tuner I've spoken to have shuddered at the thought of using regrinds especially when there's other options. Sure, cost is the main consideration and there's a Magna over here with a regrind but from what I heard, it's a bit noisy.
Ben, who milled your cams and where did the design come from? Who did the calcs and the testing?
BOosted' BOoya
22-03-2005, 08:01 AM
:doubt: - thought they were
It's not about failing. Every tuner I've spoken to have shuddered at the thought of using regrinds especially when there's other options. Sure, cost is the main consideration and there's a Magna over here with a regrind but from what I heard, it's a bit noisy.
Ben, who milled your cams and where did the design come from? Who did the calcs and the testing?
noone said i had regrounds - i was just saying...
turbo_charade
22-03-2005, 08:09 AM
i rate reginds, except when you dont have enough give in the hydrolic lifters it can cause a problem. with older model cars reginds are pretty much a given because they can be adjusted via the tappets easily
AussieMagna
22-03-2005, 08:13 AM
Once you regrind a set of cams (stock or not) you go through the hardcasing which causes the cams to wear out plus whatever they come into contact with (lifters / tappets) much much faster.
I wouldn't touch regrinds personally.
Redav
22-03-2005, 08:16 AM
noone said i had regrounds - i was just saying...
Sorry, I wasn't saying they were. I thought you were using RPW turbo cams.
turbo_charade
22-03-2005, 08:19 AM
you know they take about a mm off the surface if that. now assuming the hard casing your talking about is the martensite phase of steel around the outside which is yes harder and wear resistent. this theory is kinda pointless because they machine a billet to get a cam in the first place which would remove more than a regind would from the diameter. the cam is then not reheated and quenched or phase changed at all anyway its just put in and drove away. how do you explain that?
ps the martensite phase is from billeting, the outside cools faster then the centre of the steel to give it a wear resistant outer. it is then machined off, and further machined if reground.
they wouldn't regrind cams if it was unsafe or going to wear at a huge rate
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