View Full Version : Easy TL CAI!!!
greenmatt
28-03-2005, 06:27 PM
I found this removeable blanking plate next to the radiator so getting a pipe to the existing airbox is easy! :D It works very well and isnt a tough job. The only permanent modification needed is to cut a portion out of the battery box which isnt used past TH anyway.
1: Remove front grill on the right side by taking out the two screws directly above.
2: Unscrew plastic blanking plate to the right of the radiator
3: Cut away battery box if required (depends on pipe size)
4: Put pipe in (I used dust extractor tubing and a rubber plumbing adaptor)
5: Enjoy CAI (I think this is actually all legal for once, intake is more than 550mm off ground and no exposed pods or filters)
Black Beard
28-03-2005, 06:43 PM
Nice work!!! good to see ppl starting to hack at the front endz of their TL's :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
but in all seriousness - that's pretty clever. Noticed any difference??
EZ Boy
28-03-2005, 08:12 PM
That's a REALLY good looking job, congrats.
Keep an eye on your battery - the battery box is there to keep a layer of air around it to insulate it against the engine bay heat. You don't want to boil your battery!!!!!
RJL25
28-03-2005, 08:33 PM
wow cheers man, i never thought of that.. thats what ill be doing to my TL once i get my panel filter
greenmatt
28-03-2005, 08:53 PM
Yeah it makes a difference, easier to rev and better idle. Also much better off the lights where I think it got a big gasp of hot air initially.
RJL25
28-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Yeah it makes a difference, easier to rev and better idle. Also much better off the lights where I think it got a big gasp of hot air initially.
what type of panal filter do you have? just the stock one or a performance one?
Any more noticeable induction note?
Kansai
28-03-2005, 09:02 PM
Nice job. I was going to have a go at using the blank space under the grill for my air intake. That way I don't have to hack at the battery box, just squeeze the pipe a bit. I think this is where they put the driving lights on the upmarket models. (mines only a ES). Did the battery box present a problem. There's a lot of plastic to cut away to get the pipe round there. How did you attach the pipe to the oval shaped airbox inlet? I saw a 6" rubber plumbers join with big hose clamps on either end at Bunnings. Is this what you used. Nice job. Did I say that already. Yeh, no, yeh, nice job anyway :thumbsup:
EZ Boy
28-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Use a heat gun to melt the battery box to get enuf clearance. The TJ AWD had to be cut, maybe ur TL will fit easier. Cut as a last option or if not visibly detracting from the job's finish.
greenmatt
28-03-2005, 09:18 PM
I have a K&N panel and there is a difference in induction noise, nothing like a pod but more hiss and a bit more muscle. If you didnt use such a large pipe (mine is about 100mm) you dont have to touch the battery box but it really doesnt do much, my old TE had a cover but no such thing on this one. I used tin snips to cut a small amount of the box away, was not difficuilt. I found by luck a plumbing adaptor that fits perfectly on the oval end and seals nicely onto the pipe, looks very neat and a very tight fit. As for pipe down to fog light position I looked and it doesnt look like nearly enough clearance, compared to TE-TJ the radiator is much further back giving less room.
JO_KING
28-03-2005, 10:24 PM
thats some big ass pipe lol well done
Tim-E
28-03-2005, 11:00 PM
thats some big ass pipe lol well done
thats exactly what i was gunna say lol
nice job, and im gunna have to look into those plumbers clamps, thanks for the tip :)
BOosted' BOoya
29-03-2005, 06:18 AM
remove your passenger side headlamp, and damn - then run your 12" pipe to that empty space and - damn you have one HUGE CAI hole lol
good work :thumbsup:
Kansai
29-03-2005, 06:35 AM
Ben, looks like an ex con workin on ya car. Do you know him and better still would you let him near your car.
BOosted' BOoya
29-03-2005, 07:14 AM
Ben, looks like an ex con workin on ya car. Do you know him and better still would you let him near your car.
that ex con = dallas.... dallas = street torque... you've just blown your mates rates for any parts you wish to buy from me now lol
Kansai
29-03-2005, 10:36 AM
Kansai bows deeply while walking backwards chanting something about the gods and forgiveness.
Nice work. Might have to consider this if i can find the right materials from somewhere.
greenmatt
29-03-2005, 12:53 PM
Try bunnings or any plumbng place for the rubber adaptor and some bunnings have dust extractor tubing or a place called purple pig has tubing. Just make sure the piping is fairly rigid as it doesnt compress when under full throttle.
Thunda
29-03-2005, 07:46 PM
have you got anyother pics as to how tight the clearances are where the piping runs down as there is a **** load off crap down in that area of the engine bay to clear
nice to see that you have given the tl more airflow and that its helping
greenmatt
29-03-2005, 11:20 PM
Hi, sorry about the camera phone quality. I had these from earlier, shows the space the pipe ends up in. As for clearance the main problem is between the battery and the supports for the radiator fans, this is onyl an issue with a very big pipe as I have used. Also you would be surprised at high it can sit, there is a lot of clearance in the bonnet height wise, so it can sit up.
Tsuro
30-03-2005, 10:12 AM
Hi, sorry about the camera phone quality. I had these from earlier, shows the space the pipe ends up in. As for clearance the main problem is between the battery and the supports for the radiator fans, this is onyl an issue with a very big pipe as I have used. Also you would be surprised at high it can sit, there is a lot of clearance in the bonnet height wise, so it can sit up.
I have a TL AWD but after having a look at it last night do you think there might be any way of attaching the pipe without having to cut into the battery holder? I would like to be able to change the setup but also want to be able to go back to the original when getting the car serviced or for resale.
Do you have any picks of the alterations you have performed to the battery holder?
Thanks
Tim
Tim-E
30-03-2005, 10:43 AM
I have a TL AWD but after having a look at it last night do you think there might be any way of attaching the pipe without having to cut into the battery holder? I would like to be able to change the setup but also want to be able to go back to the original when getting the car serviced or for resale.
Do you have any picks of the alterations you have performed to the battery holder?
Thanks
Tim
you could always hunt for a spare battery cover at the wreckers?
greenmatt
30-03-2005, 10:53 AM
you could always hunt for a spare battery cover at the wreckers?
I think that would be the best idea, even from mitsubishi I would very much doubt it would be a lot. But you could get away without cutting it if you used a smaller pipe. Its up to you.
Black Advance
03-04-2005, 10:47 AM
Excellent! Too bad it can't be done on a TH. :cry:
Kommando
17-10-2005, 05:41 PM
WOW. Now theres a weekend project :) Great job. Might attempt it. :D
EZ Boy
17-10-2005, 07:14 PM
Maybe I need to make battery boxes to go with the Pod boxes? :think:
Phonic
18-10-2005, 07:14 AM
Awsome CAI, the shorter the pipe the better. Thats the most effiecient CAI setup utilising the standard airbox I have seen so far.
EXBoy's pod box with this setup would be ultimate :P
Ken N
18-10-2005, 08:16 AM
That's brilliant Greenmatt! I was just gearing up to CAI my TL VRX AWD, so I'll now look at avoiding running the hose under the guard and do what you did.
If EZ Boy is looking for another project (he seems to like a challenge), how about a formed funnel to fit at the back of the hole in Greenmatt's mod?
Does anyone know if the stock computer will have trouble tuning for the extra available air?
Ken
My ES did not come with a battrey box.
Kommando
18-10-2005, 07:17 PM
Just a question. Removing the grill. Yes theres 2 screws and yes i take them out. But its still stuck in there. I try and yank it out but it just keeps bending and i dont wanna start snapping things? Whats the catch?
Craig O
16-05-2006, 05:02 PM
Just wondering how has this mod effected your fuel economy? Better or worse.
Considering this mod for my TL AWD VRX that I just bought. Been told by quite a few engineers here at MMAL that the a CAI that was tested in NZ gives a genuine 10 kw gain, and this set up is very similar to the NZ one I have seen, which is just a formed piece that runs around the batt.
greenmatt
16-05-2006, 05:48 PM
Ive been trying to find a picture of an engine bay of a Diamante but havent had any luck. I think the real gains though from the Diamantte is different tuning as there are slacker emissions laws in NZ.
Craig O
16-05-2006, 06:19 PM
Thats what I thought as during assembly we had different ecu's of course, but appartently Mitsy's New Zealand arm did extensive dyno testing of different cai's without modding the ecu and came up with a setup like yours which is formed. The only diff being that yours uses flexible tubing and has a ram effect from getting air from the grille, whereas the NZ one just bends around the batt and sucks air from behind the LH H/lamp. If I can get a Pic I will post one up. But in the meen time going to give your setup a go. Just curious as to fuel economy, and what your experiences have been since this mod. But well done it is nicely executed.
Will post pic soon of my ride when I get a chance.
greenmatt
16-05-2006, 11:16 PM
As for fuel economy, its pretty shocking as I live in the city. Out on the highway its fine though. No problems with the setup whatsoever, still waiting for the pod box to surface from the quagmire that is australia post. Its been missing for months but apparantely they have found it.
As for fuel economy, its pretty shocking as I live in the city. Out on the highway its fine though. No problems with the setup whatsoever, still waiting for the pod box to surface from the quagmire that is australia post. Its been missing for months but apparantely they have found it.
Who did you get the pod box from?
greenmatt
17-05-2006, 09:46 AM
EZ Boy, it was the last one. Hopefully it turns up.
bRatzc
17-05-2006, 09:56 AM
I know EZ Boy is not accepting any more PM's, but didn't I read somewhere that another AMC member was going to take over production of th Pod Box? If so does anyone know who it is or am I just dreaming? I've lusted after 1 of these ever since I put the Pod on my car.
VR33XY
17-05-2006, 10:38 AM
I might try this using a slighlty smaller pipe. Good work for finding this!
Can u just re-confirm though where you got the pipe from, what its actually called, and how much it cost.
Cheers.
DaJaJa
17-05-2006, 10:43 AM
I know EZ Boy is not accepting any more PM's, but didn't I read somewhere that another AMC member was going to take over production of th Pod Box? If so does anyone know who it is or am I just dreaming? I've lusted after 1 of these ever since I put the Pod on my car.
i think hes back into the AMC scene.....:D couldnt stay away....lol
so PM him again and im sure he'll get back to you....
Also, I DUB you bRatzc Wollongong Division #1....lol
bRatzc
17-05-2006, 10:46 AM
i think hes back into the AMC scene.....:D couldnt stay away....lol
so PM him again and im sure he'll get back to you....
Also, I DUB you bRatzc Wollongong Division #1....lol
Will do DaJaJa.
Thank you Sire. I accept ur knighthood with much thanx. :D
Ken N
17-05-2006, 12:29 PM
This thread has resurfaced at just the right time. I've been sent a picture of the rotor moulded snorkel installed in a pre TL (I don't know what model it is, it's a 3rd gen, ok?). Derry put me on to Emtech (1139 South Rd St Marys 5042 (08) 8177 0666), they want $165-00 for one.
See attached pic:
bRatzc
17-05-2006, 12:59 PM
This thread has resurfaced at just the right time. I've been sent a picture of the rotor moulded snorkel installed in a pre TL (I don't know what model it is, it's a 3rd gen, ok?). Derry put me on to Emtech (1139 South Rd St Marys 5042 (08) 8177 0666), they want $165-00 for one.
Is there anymore info on this? Like where does it draw air from (behind headlight etc)? Is there somewhere in NSW you can get 1?
Craig O
17-05-2006, 05:47 PM
$165 bugger that! I'll try the dust extraction pipe.
EZ Boy
17-05-2006, 06:24 PM
Guys and gals, I've got meters and meters of cai TPR Ducting left over from my pod box project, i've got 90mm, 100mm and 115mm (which actually fits over the stock air filter box inlet) just a pretty tight squeeze. BRICK on AMC has the 115mm fitted. He reckons it "rocks". Prices are well under $70 from memory for a meter and hose clamp. PM if that's sounding like your thing. ;)
Ken N
18-05-2006, 10:48 AM
The CAI, that I posted a picture of, draws air from behind the headlight in pre TL models. Emtech state that it works better in TL's etc because it can take advantage of the increased air flow resulting from the removal of the cover plate between the LHS headlight and the radiator. They reckon it's good for 6kW at the wheels.
I'm also a bit put off by the price, so I thought that with a bit of open discussion other alternatives may be suggested which keep more of a "factory" appearance.
I was planning to fabricate a snorkel like this from fibreglass, but this one would at least eliminate the development time.
Ken
Craig O
18-05-2006, 05:09 PM
Umm yeah ok dude.... wrong thread..lol
Having trouble with firefox and roboform. Yea reply deleted.:redface:
In regards to the cai made some enquires at work today and apparently MMNZ dealerships will not ship to Aus, something to do with ADR's??? Did get my hands on the installation instructions and it is states that this is a mandatory pre delivery power upgrade on Diamante 04 models. Lucky New Zealanders.
greenmatt
18-05-2006, 05:28 PM
There are a few New Zealanders on the forum. Maybe they could send something. Does it say what is changed? The VRX in NZ gets 172kW/325Nm. Not a bad gain if it can be replicated cheaply.
Craig O
18-05-2006, 05:54 PM
In a nutshell by modding the battery box and placing the new air intake over the modded batt box the pick up is sealed? probably not the best word but sits behing the batt. The blanking plate that covers the grill/head lamp then has some slots cut in it to mate up with the slots in the grill. 1 slot for VRX, 2 for all other models. This allows the air to flow through the slots into the area behind the batt then into the intake. It makes it quite clear that only a max of 2 slots are to be cut in order to prevent water ingress into the intake. I have been told by a number of engineers that this mod gives a genuine 10kw gain, as the NZ arm of Mitsy's did extensive dyno testing. Slightly further gains are to be had by modding the intake and angling it upwards slightly. This was abandoned due to the increased intake noise, and having to adhere to NZ design regs.
greenmatt
18-05-2006, 09:11 PM
My car makes one hell of a hiss from the front. Angling it up slightly?
Ken N
19-05-2006, 10:56 AM
Craig O, could you please post a copy of the installation instructions, or maybe send them to me? This would give us some idea of the cutting and fitting required.
NZ Mits dealers may not send the CAI over, but what about any NZ Mits wreckers?
Ken
greenmatt
19-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Pod Box turned up today! Already fitted and it makes a great noise and feels a little smoother and faster. Very happy man. Oh and the 100mm pipe can be fitted with a bit of squeezing fairly easily.
Craig O
19-05-2006, 06:43 PM
Craig O, could you please post a copy of the installation instructions, or maybe send them to me? This would give us some idea of the cutting and fitting required.
NZ Mits dealers may not send the CAI over, but what about any NZ Mits wreckers?
Ken
I'll have a go at scanning the instructions and the templates used for cutting the batt box and blanking plate. The photos used as examples are not very clear, as I got a photocopy of a photocopy.
VR33XY
20-05-2006, 08:35 AM
Ok after fiddling around with a few things, ive concluded that no matter what size piping you use, you cannot install this setup if you do not wish to cut the battery box. For me, thats out of the question, so Ken N's reponse below seems like the only option.
This thread has resurfaced at just the right time. I've been sent a picture of the rotor moulded snorkel installed in a pre TL (I don't know what model it is, it's a 3rd gen, ok?). Derry put me on to Emtech (1139 South Rd St Marys 5042 (08) 8177 0666), they want $165-00 for one.
See attached pic:
Upon doing a quick estimate, this sort of moulded snorkel SHOULD fit above the existing sidewall of the box. However, as most TL owners know, we do not have a cover like the one pictures. Therefore, it could definately draw a heap of cold air if a moulded snorkel such as this one has been made for the TL. Does anyone know where we could get one, other than that listed. $165 is dreaming...
If any Kiwis are reading this, please post up some photos of your engine bays so we can see the difference. Maybe we could import the possibly different snorkels from NZ using a magna user already there.
Chris
greenmatt
20-05-2006, 09:15 AM
Why not just get a battery tray from the wreckers to cut up, leaving yours intact for the future. Going to be a lot less than $165.
EZ Boy
20-05-2006, 07:51 PM
Why not just get a battery tray from the wreckers to cut up, leaving yours intact for the future. Going to be a lot less than $165.:stoopid: Also, it's made of ABS which welds easily so can attach a ring and cai ducting rather professionally if time is taken.
Ken N
26-05-2006, 08:11 AM
The snorkel that I posted the picture of the other day will, according to the supplier, still require battery box modifications for fitment. These mods are probably less than that required for the fully boxed batteries.
The attraction of the snorkel for me is its "factory" appearance. I'm willing to make some neat mods to my battery box to fit it, but I can understand someone having reservations about it.
How are the scans going Craig O?
Ken
VR33XY
26-05-2006, 08:37 AM
The snorkel that I posted the picture of the other day will, according to the supplier, still require battery box modifications for fitment. These mods are probably less than that required for the fully boxed batteries.
The attraction of the snorkel for me is its "factory" appearance. I'm willing to make some neat mods to my battery box to fit it, but I can understand someone having reservations about it.
How are the scans going Craig O?
Ken
Quite true, thanks for the info.
Someone should make this a "sticky" to stop similar questions etc.
Craig O
26-05-2006, 05:44 PM
The snorkel that I posted the picture of the other day will, according to the supplier, still require battery box modifications for fitment. These mods are probably less than that required for the fully boxed batteries.
The attraction of the snorkel for me is its "factory" appearance. I'm willing to make some neat mods to my battery box to fit it, but I can understand someone having reservations about it.
How are the scans going Craig O?
Ken
Still pending, my puter went down in sympathy with AMC. Got the 6yr old clunker working, but scanner won't complete a scan.:angry: Reinstalling software and drivers tonight so hopefully fingers crossed I'll have the scans tomorrow. If not it will be time for a new scanner.
Still pending, my puter went down in sympathy with AMC. Got the 6yr old clunker working, but scanner won't complete a scan.:angry: Reinstalling software and drivers tonight so hopefully fingers crossed I'll have the scans tomorrow. If not it will be time for a new scanner.
How did those scans end up Craig O
Craig O
31-10-2006, 05:00 PM
How did those scans end up Craig O
Scans didn't come out to clear, and the thought of posting them as a jpg pic might have caused some quality issues. I'll give it another go and post up a page to gauge the quality.
SMJ_276
31-10-2006, 07:06 PM
Sorry guys, where can i get the tube from and stupid question time:nuts: .....what stops it melting:nuts: ..it seems to be resting on the block from the pics.
You can but the hoseing from just about any hardware store. This area of the engine bey doesn't really get very hot and the cool air running through the pipe keeps it cold anyway. Alternativly you could buy some thermal flex piping from http://www.rocketindustries.com.au, www.rpw.com.au or many other places. Hose clamps can be bought from just about any car spares shop and stainless steel joiners can be bought from say an exhaust manufacturer. Look at the rpw site here ( http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=159&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31 ) to get an idea although yours will not be the same as shown there. This is what i have done and i will be posting some pics in the next few days.
SMJ_276
01-11-2006, 07:23 PM
[ This is what i have done and i will be posting some pics in the next few days.[/QUOTE]
More pics would be good to make sure we don't spend money on crap that is not needed, especially more closeups of the juction to the airbox
More pics would be good to make sure we don't spend money on crap that is not needed, especially more closeups of the juction to the airbox
OK here we go. Finally got round to taking the pics
SMJ_276
04-11-2006, 02:01 PM
very slick ...
where did you get the air box from and I guess it's called thermal flex cause you can mould it and stretch it into shape while it is heated up.
what sort of shops can you get it from????
do you think there is any chance of water being sucked up into the air box, like in heavy rain?
Mr_Roberto
04-11-2006, 02:18 PM
im thinking about doing this :D as it looks really good
but theres one thing i dont get is how do you add the piping to the normal box as its a more an oval shape than a round shape :confused:
The Airbox is EZ Boy's Pod Box. The thermal flex was from the RPW CAI system i had. Its easy to get and cheap to. Heaps of online stores have it. The stainless steel joins can be bought from any exhuast manufacturer. Just specify length and diametre.
SMJ_276
04-11-2006, 02:32 PM
The Airbox is EZ Boy's Pod Box. The thermal flex was from the RPW CAI system i had. Its easy to get and cheap to. Heaps of online stores have it. The stainless steel joins can be bought from any exhuast manufacturer. Just specify length and diametre.
From memory, you can't get any more pod boxes, is that correct?
did you buy the piping straight and bend it yourself and if so how?
off topic a little, what engine type is in a TL? 6a12...4g19 etc ???
im thinking about doing this :D as it looks really good
but theres one thing i dont get is how do you add the piping to the normal box as its a more an oval shape than a round shape :confused:
The piping around the box is a wider diametre than the rest and fits snugly over the hole for this one. It will mould to the oval though beacuse it originally was on the MAS sensor on my old setup. Just get piping over the hole and use hose clamp to secure. the blue piping flexes its mostly some sort of rubbery platic material.
Ive posted links further up this page to places that sell it but its a very common material. Most online car parts & accessories stores have it and it comes in a range of bends,, diametres and shapes. Heres the stuff Rocket Ind. havehttp://www.rocketindustries.com.au/search.php?keyword=thermal. I haven't bought from them but it provides a good list to give you an idea of whats available. (Mine uses two 90 degree turns in 3", two stainless steel joiners, a 3" to 4" adapter and a bunch of hose clamps.)
They should have everything you need. If you can't find the 3" to 4" piece ask dave at RPW. He has them.
Disciple
04-11-2006, 02:37 PM
do you think there is any chance of water being sucked up into the air box, like in heavy rain?
Not a chance. When I was running the pod box with pipe down under the car driving in torrential rain and through puddles, water wouldn't even go 1 inch up the pipe, letalone through the pod, the TB and into the engine.
If your worried just buy a cover for the pod, they help seal it against dust and water.
Iv'e drawn a circle around it in the pic for ya!
hy_boi
19-07-2008, 08:11 AM
Really really sorry for digging up an old thread, but it was all I could really find,
Has anyone else done this mod to their TL-TW with great gains, just after more opinions really or if there was even a better way.
cheers
SH00T
19-07-2008, 08:47 AM
I'm with you, I'm glad you found it.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 09:12 AM
thats pretty much what the NZ CAI is, its just not a flexi pipe. Thats how i have my NZ CAI set up the piece of plastic that the corner of the grill is held down by 1 or 2 bolts. All you have to do is cut the heat shield around the battery or you could chase up a new battery heat shield from NZ because this CAI came standard on the TW Diamantes, so i'm sure there should be an actual part for it.
Since this thread has been dug up, do you guys reckon this would actually work?
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=516327&postcount=41
I mean, even if it does do something on the TL-TW because of that grille opening, how can it possibly help a TE-TJ when it twists into the battery box like that? :confused:
hy_boi
19-07-2008, 09:48 AM
Yeah no idea, That's why I've dug it up see if anyone has had any results.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 09:50 AM
Since this thread has been dug up, do you guys reckon this would actually work?
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=516327&postcount=41
I mean, even if it does do something on the TL-TW because of that grille opening, how can it possibly help a TE-TJ when it twists into the battery box like that? :confused:
its not taking air from a battery box, its taking air from an open area.... jesus...
hy_boi
19-07-2008, 09:51 AM
... jesus...
Yes??
Type40
19-07-2008, 09:59 AM
its not taking air from a battery box, its taking air from an open area.... jesus...
You are right. It is being fed air that is drawn in from behind the headlight that will be cooler than air drawn from over the radiator. Also at speed there will be some positive pressure in that shielded area that supplies cool air for the battery. Not that hard to understand is it???
Rather than acting like its so obvious its a stupid question to ask, why don't you explain it so that others who look at it and don't understand how it works can see Boozer?
Maybe it'd be better if we could've got a photo of the battery box open to see where its finishing.
Thank you Type40.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 10:02 AM
you got the same god damm battery box... poke your head under the bonnet and imagine how the cai will fit
removed the lid if you have to... or cut parts of it off or get a heat shield similar to the TL, i believe some were found in TJs already
Type40
19-07-2008, 10:05 AM
I have a TH battery box sitting out the back that i was going to modify to do a similar thing as the pics as shown earlier. The only issue is the TL has a much shorter nose and getting the box to fit will be a bit of an effort... And im too lazy. lol
you got the same god damm battery box... poke your head under the bonnet and imagine how the cai will fit
Do you always have to act like such a smart **** when somebody asks something that they don't know the answer to that you do just because you think its simple to understand? We're not all "experts" on these ****ing cars you know...
MicJaiy
19-07-2008, 10:10 AM
Do you always have to act like such a smart **** when somebody asks something that they don't know the answer to that you do just because you think its simple to understand? We're not all "experts" on these ****ing cars you know...
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
relax buddy, you should know irvin's sense of humor by now!!
Type40
19-07-2008, 10:12 AM
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
relax buddy, you should know irvin's sense of humor by now!!
Abrasive and to the point.
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
relax buddy, you should know irvin's sense of humor by now!!
Nah it ****s me, everytime I ask about something that he knows the answer to I get a response like I'm a complete ******** for not knowing. Defeats the purpose of a discussion forum if your going to get flamed when you ask a question.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 10:16 AM
no.. sometimes its you telling me what i know and telling me it doesn't work... like the CAI convo on msn... what sort of response are you expecting to get?
you do have to realise i have searched for this item, found 2 suppliers in Australia that don't supply them anymore and have sourced it out in NZ
hy_boi
19-07-2008, 10:31 AM
Calm down kiddies....So...when can I get my hands on one.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Calm down kiddies....So...when can I get my hands on one.
i'll try my best to get it to you asap... it is Saturday and NZ is 4 hours infront of us, so chances are i won't get a reply till Monday, and I won't check my email till Monday evening, thats when i get back from work.
i'll give em a call on Monday as well if i'm not too busy at work, got their number on my mobile :)
Magtone
19-07-2008, 11:15 AM
i think they are two hours, and 3 in daylight savings, but anyway.........
alscall
19-07-2008, 11:41 AM
If boozer is unable to get these, give Emtech in S.A. a call. That's where I got mine from.
Was a lot dearer though, as far as I can tell after a chat with Type40.
alscall
19-07-2008, 11:46 AM
I mean, even if it does do something on the TL-TW because of that grille opening, how can it possibly help a TE-TJ when it twists into the battery box like that? :confused:
I don't believe it will help you much at all. I put mine from the TL into the TJ & noticed no difference at all. Whilst the air there may be cooler than from the stock position it isn't getting the same amount of fresh air from the front as it does in the TL.
Phonic
19-07-2008, 12:01 PM
You are right. It is being fed air that is drawn in from behind the headlight that will be cooler than air drawn from over the radiator. Also at speed there will be some positive pressure in that shielded area that supplies cool air for the battery. Not that hard to understand is it???
Yep the TL+ Magnas are awesome for CAI mods. That EMTECH intake is a definite improvement on the factory snorkel.
Boozer
19-07-2008, 12:07 PM
when i was out at about sourcing this CAI, I have contacted Emtech and they said they do not supply it anymore, I have even ordered one from modyourcar, paid for it and had the money returned as they couldn't get any from their supplier. So feel free to contact them.
Mr_Roberto
19-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Rather than acting like its so obvious its a stupid question to ask, why don't you explain it so that others who look at it and don't understand how it works can see Boozer?
Maybe it'd be better if we could've got a photo of the battery box open to see where its finishing.
Thank you Type40.
removing that plastic part behind the grille should let more air in and should go straight into the snorkel, where as the stock position less air will be get through
well thats how i see it
Boozer
19-07-2008, 02:53 PM
removing that plastic part behind the grille should let more air in and should go straight into the snorkel, where as the stock position less air will be get through
well thats how i see it
he was refering to the TE-TJ models :)
Nemesis
19-07-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm still not convinced that it is worth the money or it makes the difference that is claimed.
Autospeed did a really good writeup on fitting a custom CAI. I'll post it up tomorrow.
Type40
19-07-2008, 07:52 PM
I'm still not convinced that it is worth the money or it makes the difference that is claimed.
Autospeed did a really good writeup on fitting a custom CAI. I'll post it up tomorrow.
Are you calling me a ****ing liar??? Dont be such a doubting Thomas! I have had both and i can feel the difference between the two. :D
Nemesis
19-07-2008, 10:50 PM
Lol I'm calling you a big ****ing liar :D :bowrofl:
I'm just skeptical that a different shaped and curved intake pipe can make the difference it's claimed to do. I'm sure it makes a difference - im not so sure its 9 kw and 9 nm worth. Though the shape does resemble a SRI (short ram intake) system.
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_1023/article.html
I'd be interested to get a scantool on two cars one with AUS style CAI and one with NZ style CAI and run a IAT and AF test to see how much of a difference there is.
Type40
20-07-2008, 06:34 AM
Lol I'm calling you a big ****ing liar :D :bowrofl:
I'm just skeptical that a different shaped and curved intake pipe can make the difference it's claimed to do. I'm sure it makes a difference - im not so sure its 9 kw and 9 nm worth. Though the shape does resemble a SRI (short ram intake) system.
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_1023/article.html
I'd be interested to get a scantool on two cars one with AUS style CAI and one with NZ style CAI and run a IAT and AF test to see how much of a difference there is.
You are more than welcome to use mine as a test bed for that if you wish. I am really just as curious about this as you are.
Lucifer
20-07-2008, 09:25 AM
It's a cold air intake kids. It's not going to give you some huge gain because you ran a flex pipe to the same place the OEM snorkel runs to. :nuts: Broadhurst would have a field day in this thread.
toocky
20-07-2008, 11:18 AM
It's a cold air intake kids. It's not going to give you some huge gain because you ran a flex pipe to the same place the OEM snorkel runs to. :nuts: Broadhurst would have a field day in this thread.
why didnt he its only 3 years old and he wasnt banned then?
Ishrub
21-11-2008, 09:54 PM
OK I'm a novice and just discovered smilicons - what did Broadhurst and later Boozer do to get banished, did they throw a :tantrum: or get :evil: and :bash: too many newbies like me with :rocket: or :zap:?
Ishrub
21-11-2008, 09:58 PM
Are they in your back yard permanently Lucifer in :flame: or just in Purgatory :naughty: :gtfo: awaiting their final judgement? Do they still :lurk: on inferior forums wishing they were here? (Smilicons - its compulsive, I'm :bouncin: now!)
Nemesis
21-11-2008, 10:06 PM
Boozer is on a brief hiatus and will be back soon. Broadhursts holiday is more permanent. Theres links around as to why he's banned.
Boozer is on a brief hiatus and will be back soon. Broadhursts holiday is more permanent. Theres links around as to why he's banned.
A brief summary?
Lucifer
21-11-2008, 11:26 PM
OK I'm a novice and just discovered smilicons - what did Broadhurst and later Boozer do to get banished, did they throw a :tantrum: or get :evil: and :bash: too many newbies like me with :rocket: or :zap:?
Couldn't you just have PM'd me or something... rather than drag up this oldass thread?
Good on ya Greenmatt, just copied your C.A.I. can't go wrong for 50 bucks. :)
deantl
05-07-2011, 06:38 PM
This thread has resurfaced at just the right time. I've been sent a picture of the rotor moulded snorkel installed in a pre TL (I don't know what model it is, it's a 3rd gen, ok?). Derry put me on to Emtech (1139 South Rd St Marys 5042 (08) 8177 0666), they want $165-00 for one.
See attached pic:
Hi Thats TH MAGNA SPORTS My TH had all that plastic around battery, looking at it all you need is flexible pipe to battery box and part of battery box at front for air to come throught...I will have have look what can i do on my tl...Cheers Dean
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