OK, im not really looking for power, i just want my car to sound fat and loud! ive been doin some searching and narrowed it down...the cannon is the shiz,

How much am i looking at for one of these?

Where on the Gold Coast can i purchase one? autobarn?

Is the a DYI job? easy at all? If not how much to fit one?

Would it be ok on my stock 93 TR? or would i need to upgrade the entire exhaust system?

Cannon exhausts come as just the muffler, you'll need to take it and your car to an exhaust place to weld it on. Costs about $50 to do.

Cannon exhausts are pretty cheap, look around someone will be selling a second hand one somewhere for about $60 or less. Or new ones can reach up to $100 ish.

All depends if you like the cannon look, theyr usually very loud. But some people like that, so its all in taste.

Hmm k thanks. But when i come to selling the car, i would like to take it off, back to the place that would weld it on i guess? I doubt an old granny looking for a magna would want a loud cannon.

If you have access to a TIG welder and know how to use it you're set. I would make a flange for the cannon and bolt it up to your pipe. Then if you want to sell the car but keep the muffler you can just unbolt it.

If you have access to a TIG welder and know how to use it you're set. I would make a flange for the cannon and bolt it up to your pipe. Then if you want to sell the car but keep the muffler you can just unbolt it.

ok explain more dude, not so technical...flange?

i found this on ebay only $50 bout 6 days left, i understand theres different brands of cannons is this one the shiz? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50140&item=4542074123&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I've always found cannons to sound really farty. Never a nice sound. Thats just my experience tho

i got a "supercat" cannon on my TS, 6inch barrel with a 4 inch tip and it sounds VERY loud and i only have a 4cyl. i would not say it sounds nice, just loud. so if thats what your after go for it.

Can you put in extra resonaters n stuff in so they don't sound so farty and loud, without the pop pop? I love the look of cannons

can a exhust alone give you that more bassy roaring sound insted of the shallow "popping" sound, if you know wat i mean

-sean

I HATE cannons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Living between the 2 major arteriel roads in brisbane, it's a REALLY pain when you have these little gits with their broken down cars with a straight through cannon exhaust, screaming up and down the freeway/gateway at all hours of the morning(10pm - 4am). Always 2 of them, and always about 800db @1mW/1mm. Uber uber UBER annoying!

Get one if ya want bro... just don't be driving it past my door every day!!!! They sound terrible on 4 cyls in my opinion anyway.

I have one, its actually a genie, it cost me $150 intalled from a real good cheap place in SA..

i personnaly love it its big enough for me to pt my fist down with out touching the sides, and it sounds good, real deep still with sputter on decrease in revvs

OK, im not really looking for power, i just want my car to sound fat and loud! ive been doin some searching and narrowed it down...the cannon is the shiz,

How much am i looking at for one of these?

Where on the Gold Coast can i purchase one? autobarn?

Is the a DYI job? easy at all? If not how much to fit one?

Would it be ok on my stock 93 TR? or would i need to upgrade the entire exhaust system?

Ant0ne, why on earth would you place loudness over power for an exhaust upgrade? The main point of replacing a stock muffler (or doing a cat back system) is to gain power.

Why exactly do you want a generic cannon as opposed to a muffler that has been specially designed for the magna? I take it that you are pretty keen on getting a cannon and I'd suggest that if you want loudness, have a look at Magnaflow and Xforce mufflers before handing over your cash for a cannon. Keep in mind that cops love cars with cannons too.

You can simply replace the rear muffler if you want, or you can get a full cat back system done. Depends on how much money you are prepared to spend.

Remember that if you have a 4 pot TR and yuo make your exhaust too big you will actually LOSE power (search if you don't believe me).


DONT get a plain jane cannon...they're noisy as hell.


with KB on this one tho if u want a nice system dont go with a cannon (if u do get somehting small and good quality) otherwise u'll sound like every other civic and lancer out there, loud n farty!

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14950&highlight=cannon

lol ok. umm the thing is i want a loug phat exhasut. so umm....with the cannons are they always loud? or are they only loud when u put ur foot down and hit the right revs?

lol ok. umm the thing is i want a loug phat exhasut. so umm....with the cannons are they always loud? or are they only loud when u put ur foot down and hit the right revs?

They're always loud

Have a look at these 't0ne and see what y a reckon:

++XFORCE++

X Force (http://www.xforce.com.au/Mufflers/Python/Python-mufflers.html)
(a few peeps on the forums have this) It's the Python PT01
More X force (http://www.xforce.com.au/Mufflers/mufflers.html)
Like Cannons, how's this! (http://www.xforce.com.au/Mufflers/SR-Mufflers/SR-mufflers.html)

++MAGNAFLOW++

Cannon style and Dual Tips (http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopdisplayproducts.asp?zone=main&id=386)
(there's also a few people running around with magnaflow mufflers)

Here be pics:

Magnaflow 'Street' Series:

Magnaflow #14807
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/14807.jpg

Magnaflow #14803
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/14803.jpg

Magnaflow #14832
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/14832.jpg

X Force 'Python' PT01
http://www.xforce.com.au/img/Muffler/Python/PT01-S.jpg

X Force 'Thunderball' LP01
http://www.xforce.com.au/img/Muffler/SR-Mufflers/LP01-M.jpg

X Force 'Thunderball' LE05
http://www.xforce.com.au/img/Muffler/SR-Mufflers/LE05-M.jpg

Your obviously after that cannon rumble.. They arent loud All the time, only when the revs hit around 2500-3000 the deeper rumble kicks in. After that it'll quiet off.

Nice sounds when you start the engine, idle, and subtle rumble when at cruising speeds.

I can tell what kinda feel your after, and you'll only get it with the cannons..

Go for it man

Your obviously after that cannon rumble.. They arent loud All the time, only when the revs hit around 2500-3000 the deeper rumble kicks in. After that it'll quiet off.

I've never heard a cannon that does that. They're noisy, droney and in your face all the time. Every car I've been in with a cannon has awful drone in the cabin. Thats with resonators too.

It all depends what you're willing to put up with. There's only one way to find out, and thats to do it. Not a hard thing to change around if you have to.

i think if u want the right sound just do a cat back change , up the size of the pipe , put in a hot dog & a nice rear muffler and tip cost about $800.00 , my 2 cents

I've never heard a cannon that does that. They're noisy, droney and in your face all the time. Every car I've been in with a cannon has awful drone in the cabin. Thats with resonators too.

It all depends what you're willing to put up with. There's only one way to find out, and thats to do it. Not a hard thing to change around if you have to.


Yea, my old cannon muffler does what i said before.. same car as antone.. 2.6 TR..

But ur right, only one way to find out.. :cool:

Nicem8 something tells me hes not willing to spend up to $800 on it

MMM.............PT01, so sweet.........

OMG good work guys, especially alex. thanks! umm looks like xforce seem to be the shiz aswell, so im kinda tossin up between xforce and cannon. But yeah theres only one true way to find out how these cannons go off.

Gerrad, if what u said is true... ill go for a cannon. I want to be able to drive slow some times and not draw so much attention (poolice etc), but also want it loud as hell when its time to show off heheh.

Those xforce mufflers look dam sexy, pricy i would presume?

I used to like cannons, that was until i saw them on every little ****box mazda 323, hyundai excel etc. They all think their car is ultra fast cuz they have a cannon, and they are LOUD, no matter what rpm, and if you get pulled over by the cops they'll see the cannon and make sure it's not too loud (which it will be). My advice is to go and buy a generic straight through muffler, cost you about $110 installed plus an exhaust tip. It wont be loud loud, but you'll feel a much deeper tone which sounds so much better.

OMG good work guys, especially alex. thanks! umm looks like xforce seem to be the shiz aswell, so im kinda tossin up between xforce and cannon. But yeah theres only one true way to find out how these cannons go off.

Gerrad, if what u said is true... ill go for a cannon. I want to be able to drive slow some times and not draw so much attention (poolice etc), but also want it loud as hell when its time to show off heheh.
Those xforce mufflers look dam sexy, pricy i would presume?

$250 delivered for mine, talk to anthony about them. their reasonably priced considering the quality of the product, i'm yet to fit mine but i've only heard good things about them.

I used to like cannons, that was until i saw them on every little ****box mazda 323, hyundai excel etc. They all think their car is ultra fast cuz they have a cannon, .

i think you might fall into that category mate lol :bowrofl:

I wouldn't buy a cannon if i were you. A Lukey sports muffler with twin tips its the way to go. It cost me $130 fitted and it sounds heaps better. It also gives you more high end power and torque.

$250 delivered for mine, talk to anthony about them. their reasonably priced considering the quality of the product, i'm yet to fit mine but i've only heard good things about them.




PT01 and LP02 are both about $250 delivered.

Magnaflow 14803 is $390 delivered. 14827 should be similar.

$250 delivered for the PT01? From Anthony?

OMG! 'Tone, get it!

$250 delivered for the PT01? From Anthony?

OMG! 'Tone, get it!


i dont have the money, i can only afford a cannon atm. but seems cannons are not the way to go, so i will try and save....its gonna be hard but might take me a couple of weeks to save :(

i dont have the money, i can only afford a cannon atm. but seems cannons are not the way to go, so i will try and save....its gonna be hard but might take me a couple of weeks to save :(

http://img137.echo.cx/img137/5568/trynsave3cw.jpg

Nothing wrong with saving up! I personally would save up as much as I could and go for an xforce/magnaflow/lukey system (the last of which I have) instead of a generic drainpipe.

I only wish I'd done a 2.5" cat back system with an Xforce LP02/PT01. Would have shat all over the muffler I have now.

Anyhoo, the real deal comes down to what you want and if a cannon is all you can afford then I suppose a cannon you shall have. Just don't be surprised when the cops pull you over and say "we heard you coming from 3 streets away, it's too loud my good man - here's a nice little yellow sticker for your collection RICER BOY!"

Eh, not a fan of cannons myself. Sorry for being so biased.

Oh, and another thing, if your car is compo insured you might want to check with thems insurance people before doing any mods. You'd be surprised as to how many insurance companis only alow 1 modification under a certain age bracket.

i got a "supercat" cannon on my TS, 6inch barrel with a 4 inch tip and it sounds VERY loud and i only have a 4cyl. i would not say it sounds nice, just loud. so if thats what your after go for it.

I got a supercat too, on my TR 4 cylinder. I hung it out sideways and angled it up made it look drift style. Sounds ok when ya throw it into 2nd gear or fly in reverse, has the pop pop then but most of the time it makes a pretty annoying sound.

Yo dudes im interested in a cannon, ruff prices
went into this autoshop today wanted 160bucks that heaps?

and always about 800db @1mW/1mm. .

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Classic!!!

Yo dudes im interested in a cannon, ruff prices
went into this autoshop today wanted 160bucks that heaps?
ive seen a twin pipe (something like twin 3" pipes) muffler for $275 at the motorquipe up here at hornsby :nuts:

i dunno about a twin cannon setup for the 2nd gens.. maybe a quad tip setup? but twin cannons, i'll stick to 1 thanks... my own 2c worth

yeah im just after one, so you buy the cannon and then the tip i gather? so about 3inch cannon and 5inh tip?

yeah im just after one, so you buy the cannon and then the tip i gather? so about 3inch cannon and 5inh tip?
im pretty sure they come as one...

lol 5inch tip :bowrofl:

yeah i can confirm this one in mandurah looked pretty stingy then hey
anyone being into mr mags and seen some nice 18s for cheap?

Monga.. a "cannon" is an actual muffler, its not just an extension.. unless u wanted it to be and had room.. but that would be kinda stupid (no offence). A canon is the actual muffler, and the chrome extension on the end, is how they come... and a 5inch tip? Wouldnt that be a tad rediculous.. but each to their own I guess....

i have a 5 inch cannon (similar to those you see on many skylines) and it sounds quite meaty, especially at low rpm (f-ing awesome at low rpm), i do have the v6 though...
up high it sounds a bit dodge but i'm having a problem with top end power so that might factor too, so until i get that sorted....
oh and it looks the goods to, suits the fat lip of the verada bumper.

http://img89.echo.cx/img89/1028/untitled1up.jpg

Now thats a CANNON!

http://img89.echo.cx/img89/1028/untitled1up.jpg

Now thats a CANNON!

Whose house did you nick the drainpipe off for that eh?

Just messin' with ya :D

HE HE HE :P I reakon the canons with the oval tip look a heel of a lot better than the round tips, fills the cutout a lot better. But that's just me, everyone's got their own opinion.

i prefer the twin exhaust tip better, unfortunately wen my bro replaced the exhaust he got a single tip :doubt: still sounds good tho (hmm sports exhaust)

i have an xforce canon 7inch barrel and 41/2" tip, they are alot better quality than the ones from autobarn it cost me $360 fitted also has a lifetime warranty.

I agree with hojo I've got a twin tip still only the tips are about twice the size!

well i finally bought a cannon today cost about $100 from autobarn, and gunna get it fitted sometime this week.

The guy at autobarn said by just replaceing the stock muffller there wont be any difference in sound, he said it will just burble. Unless he said i replace some twin pipe which is some part of the exhaust...cant remember exactly what is was called, but apparently the magnas have 2 pipes coming from the front of the car.. and if i just put a single pipe in there it would make a huge difference in sound.

sounds like i should check under my car then.. i'll do it during the weekend, tell yaz bout it later

The guy at autobarn said by just replaceing the stock muffller there wont be any difference in sound, he said it will just burble. Unless he said i replace some twin pipe which is some part of the exhaust...cant remember exactly what is was called, but apparently the magnas have 2 pipes coming from the front of the car.. and if i just put a single pipe in there it would make a huge difference in sound.

I think the twin pipes are under the engine, there covered with some type of metal rope or something like that. Check just behind the radiator underneath the car. I never changed mine I just shoved the canon where the old rear muffler used to be the sound changed but it prob could be louder if I changed the front pipes. I think it would be a hard job tho, if ya did it urself.

well i finally bought a cannon today cost about $100 from autobarn, and gunna get it fitted sometime this week.

The guy at autobarn said by just replaceing the stock muffller there wont be any difference in sound, he said it will just burble. Unless he said i replace some twin pipe which is some part of the exhaust...cant remember exactly what is was called, but apparently the magnas have 2 pipes coming from the front of the car.. and if i just put a single pipe in there it would make a huge difference in sound.

well it should make alot of sound, cause our magnas only have One muffler. theres no middle or front one like commodores or fords have. So if u replace the Only muffler on the car with a cannon, its gonna make a huge diff in sound level.

i dun think the autobarn dude knew this

u sure they only have 1 muffler? at the front of them therz a twin pipe i thought that was a front muffler? if not whats that?

hmmm yeah the dude at autobarn sounded like he knew what he was saying. Either way i rekon just the muffler replaced will make a diff.

u sure they only have 1 muffler? at the front of them therz a twin pipe i thought that was a front muffler? if not whats that?


thats just 2 pipes that are connected to the engine, they join into 1 pipe a bit further down. and yea we only have one muffler, and a cat at the front (near the twin pipe section).

remove the muffler, and ull have nothing to reduce the exhaust noise.

ive seen and heard cannons on falcons and commodores, and it gets that burbled noise ur talkin about. theyve got 2 or 3 smaller mufflers, cause One big one doest fit on the rear cause of the diff.

but other cars like hondas and magnas only have the one muffler. so a cannon is really noisy.

i know cause my cannon is overly noisy

I've always found cannons to sound really farty. Never a nice sound. Thats just my experience tho

what u trying to say about my car! :rant:
haha

they can drone, i personally like the magnas with cannons, sound like non turbo skylines :P

thats just 2 pipes that are connected to the engine, they join into 1 pipe a bit further down. and yea we only have one muffler, and a cat at the front (near the twin pipe section).

remove the muffler, and ull have nothing to reduce the exhaust noise.

ive seen and heard cannons on falcons and commodores, and it gets that burbled noise ur talkin about. theyve got 2 or 3 smaller mufflers, cause One big one doest fit on the rear cause of the diff.

but other cars like hondas and magnas only have the one muffler. so a cannon is really noisy.

i know cause my cannon is overly noisy

I dont know whats doing with my car then, cause mine had two mufflers. whether thats just a 3rd gen thing. But there is a mid muffler as well as the rear muffler.

I dont know whats doing with my car then, cause mine had two mufflers. whether thats just a 3rd gen thing. But there is a mid muffler as well as the rear muffler.

3rd gen thing, im not 100% sure, but might also be a v6 thing. not sure tho

sweet guys, cant wait until its fitted. should be up and running for the gold coast cruise this sunday yay!!!.
Prob go look around some exhaust places up southport tomorrow.

OK guys i got it fitted today and it sounds *** MAD!!!!!
For those that said its loud and anoying and always noisy.....guess what its NOT!!! hehe
Only when i accellerate you hear a nice deep sound. Oh man so good....

Cost of cannon muffler = $107
Labour and other materials to fit it = $65
The smile of my face = Priceless :bowrofl:

will post pics up tonite when i get home.

OK guys i got it fitted today and it sounds *** MAD!!!!!
For those that said its loud and anoying and always noisy.....guess what its NOT!!! hehe
Only when i accellerate you hear a nice deep sound. Oh man so good....

Cost of cannon muffler = $107
Labour and other materials to fit it = $65
The smile of my face = Priceless :bowrofl:

will post pics up tonite when i get home.

VERY NICE!

Most excellent 'Tone, will have to have a thorough go over of each other's cars @ teh bbq. Mayhaps a little spin around the parking lot eh :badgrin:

OK guys i got it fitted today and it sounds *** MAD!!!!!
For those that said its loud and anoying and always noisy.....guess what its NOT!!! hehe
Only when i accellerate you hear a nice deep sound. Oh man so good....

Cost of cannon muffler = $107
Labour and other materials to fit it = $65
The smile of my face = Priceless :bowrofl:

will post pics up tonite when i get home.

The sound gets s#!tt3r after a while. Mine sounded like a Turbo WRX but now it sounds more like a Charade on NOS. I wanna C the pics tho, hope ya hung it out dori style.

The sound gets s#!tt3r after a while. Mine sounded like a Turbo WRX but now it sounds more like a Charade on NOS. I wanna C the pics tho, hope ya hung it out dori style.
serious? omg that better not happen to mine, although u get what u pay for. Yeah it sounds like a wrx, almost, but without the rumble. be patient pix are comin within the hour. im at uni atm.

The sound gets s#!tt3r after a while. Mine sounded like a Turbo WRX but now it sounds more like a Charade on NOS. I wanna C the pics tho, hope ya hung it out dori style.

Why do they change after a while ? thats strange.

here it is boys!! video coming soon lol

more...

Why do they change after a while ? thats strange.

coz the inside is dual layered and its gets filled with cr@p from the emissions causing less space in the inside of the zorst so theres less of a rumble sound.

i h8 2 say it m8 but thats not much of a canon, whys it so small? needs to stick out more and be on an angle, doesnt look quite rite IMO.

http://img271.echo.cx/my.php?image=thisishowwedoit2xh.jpg

http://img264.echo.cx/my.php?image=thisishowwedoit22uv.jpg

IMO - canons look best if there on an angle and pointed upwards slightly like so ^.

coz the inside is dual layered and its gets filled with cr@p from the emissions causing less space in the inside of the zorst so theres less of a rumble sound.

i h8 2 say it m8 but thats not much of a canon, whys it so small? needs to stick out more and be on an angle, doesnt look quite rite IMO.

http://img271.echo.cx/my.php?image=thisishowwedoit2xh.jpg

http://img264.echo.cx/my.php?image=thisishowwedoit22uv.jpg

IMO - canons look best if there on an angle and pointed upwards slightly like so ^.

yeah i agreee, buts its tooo late now, im still very happy with my cannon the way it is. When you say it gets crap from the emissions..is there any way of cleaning the cannon? or is that it...buy a new one?

well atleast the welding on urs looks like its been done with quality, mines a home job and i dont have a welder so i wonder what i used to hold it on there? :badgrin:

well atleast the welding on urs looks like its been done with quality, mines a home job and i dont have a welder so i wonder what i used to hold it on there? :badgrin:
lol sticky tape??

yeah this dude at currumbin did a wicked job, he painted the welded bits with anti rust stuff and then went over it again with silver paint...very a+ job !

yeah theres some sticky tape on there. :badgrin: plus some wire and putty stuff that came in a tube, its held on rather well considering.
now thats a canon.
http://www.motorspeed.org/product_pix/exhausts_small/trillogy_exhaust_twinback.jpg

that looks cool antone, bet it sounds nice too! i gots tha lukey rumble on mine :cool: but no cannon, how big is the cannon anyways?

i think i'll stick with a twin exhaust look to fill the hole ther, the cannon dusnt seem to fill it a lot...

that looks cool antone, bet it sounds nice too! i gots tha lukey rumble on mine :cool: but no cannon, how big is the cannon anyways?

i think i'll stick with a twin exhaust look to fill the hole ther, the cannon dusnt seem to fill it a lot...
meh, its fits it fine enough, i dunno wot size it is. i think the make is Autotechinca or something...ones of the cheapest cannons.

1st gens also have the 2 mufflers

also looks nice, not over kill like most cannons, and not to big inside so would suit the car nicly

1st gens also have the 2 mufflers

also looks nice, not over kill like most cannons, and not to big inside so would suit the car nicly
yeah thanks dude, i like it very much, cant stop driving and revin the **** out of it...i luv it1!!!!

has anybody heard the rpw lukey mufflers?

ive got massive twin tip cannons on my 2003 magna atm, but coz i dont have a space cut out of the rear bar for the exhaust they sit below the rear bar, and i dunno what i think about them.

my cars at the smash repairs for the next week but when i get it back i can get some photos to put up. been waiting for the dents to be taken out before i get photos anyway.

RPW lukey mufflers sound awsome just been in the car with schmick, awwwsome, but thats on a 3rd gen though

can anyone say "threadmine" ?

ahhhhh threadmine