View Full Version : Possibly a stupid question about cannons....
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:21 AM
hey hey peeps...
jus wondering if its possible to maybe weld my stock ralliart tip to a cannon so that the fuuurz dont annoy me if i do it...
also cause i love the noise but hate the look (personally) and i dont wanna get slagged off for being a "ricer" lol
any opinions?
turbo_charade
20-04-2005, 10:26 AM
could be done, but a cheaper option would be to get a smaller straight through normal shaped muffler and put your tip on it..
cheaper because unless you can tig then its not going to be a very good weld on the cannon
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:28 AM
aaah ok then...
ive already got a lukey sports on it and i HAAATE the noise it makes...
like ball bearings in a baked bean can when its cold... shiite as
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 10:30 AM
u again :badgrin:
yer could be done, seeing as u got a rally money isnt a issue...
good idea getting them of ya tail to :clap: .. aslong as they dont see the 5inch barrel
wat kinda size u lookin at
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:33 AM
bigger the better...
TZABoy reckons his is a 7" barrel with a 5" tip...
baby one lol
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 10:34 AM
yer if i had choose again, i wouldnt go redback
does anyone work on here or amc members work for the government lol
7inch barrel :shock:
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:37 AM
we do a lot of work FOR the government...
electrical contracting firm, lots of work for DAIS
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 10:43 AM
dais contract firm :confused:
ok that chit's just gone over my head... :redface:
r u swearing at me!!! :rant: :bowrofl:
i need a job and a new woman :cry:
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:45 AM
lol nah DAIS is the government lazy contractors...
I work for a private firm that the old man owns lol
RALLI///ART money isnt that much atm... broken front bar :(
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 10:51 AM
arggggghhh ok :cool:
i was just calling everyone a doll bludger coz seems to be few people on..
:doubt: now i'll get mobbed by the doll's to lol
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:53 AM
nope, not me mate lol
im a "contrubuting member of society bludger"
im at work... not working lol
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 10:57 AM
:rant:
lucky bugger :booty:
ok i gotta stop anti-spam!!!! anti-spam!!!
peace... :cool:
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 10:58 AM
feel the spam in your blood... become one with it dude lol
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 11:14 AM
ANYWAYS back to the question about cannons...
can you possible get one without the crappy lookin tip?
Magnaficent
20-04-2005, 11:23 AM
feel the spam in your blood... become one with it dude lol
nooooooooooooo i with hold :silenced: i will not give in to ur power :sick:
all canons have the round tips as far as i know they start at 2.5 inch
:rofleek: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,weeeeee , ur fault weeeeeeeeeee
Neosaber
20-04-2005, 11:23 AM
hey hey peeps...
jus wondering if its possible to maybe weld my stock ralliart tip to a cannon so that the fuuurz dont annoy me if i do it...
also cause i love the noise but hate the look (personally) and i dont wanna get slagged off for being a "ricer" lol
any opinions?
you're in a magna with a bodykit....you're already a ricer mate! LOLOLOLOL
j/k
seriously...jump on ebay....do a search for FLYING PERFORMANCE, they have a nice range of cannons....stop being a girl and shove a nice big fat one on the a$$ of the ralliart....when i nearly bought a ralliart that was the first thing i was going to do.....nice big one, 2 and a half" inlet, 6" barrel, 4" tip.....get it welded on (make sure u leave the resonators and or hot dogs as you dont wanna be too loud) and then get it turned at angle....would look so god damn phatt!!!!
iam yet to see a ralliart with a nice big cannon turned sideways.....the only ppl that call it rice are the ones that are jealous coz their car is shiiitt....
rice or a ricer is someone who gets a typically slow car, and makes it look like it goes fast...even tho its still slow......ralliarts def arent rice.....
the commom*****s with big shift kits on their dashes and vs/vr sedans with those alezza lights....now thats rice.... lol
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 11:41 AM
nooooooooooooo i with hold :silenced: i will not give in to ur power :sick:
all canons have the round tips as far as i know they start at 2.5 inch
:rofleek: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,weeeeee , ur fault weeeeeeeeeee
your losing it man...
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 11:41 AM
you're in a magna with a bodykit....you're already a ricer mate! LOLOLOLOL
j/k
seriously...jump on ebay....do a search for FLYING PERFORMANCE, they have a nice range of cannons....stop being a girl and shove a nice big fat one on the a$$ of the ralliart....when i nearly bought a ralliart that was the first thing i was going to do.....nice big one, 2 and a half" inlet, 6" barrel, 4" tip.....get it welded on (make sure u leave the resonators and or hot dogs as you dont wanna be too loud) and then get it turned at angle....would look so god damn phatt!!!!
iam yet to see a ralliart with a nice big cannon turned sideways.....the only ppl that call it rice are the ones that are jealous coz their car is shiiitt....
rice or a ricer is someone who gets a typically slow car, and makes it look like it goes fast...even tho its still slow......ralliarts def arent rice.....
the commom*****s with big shirt kits on their dashes and vs/vr sedans with those alezza lights....now thats rice.... lol
cheers buddy... now i just need some cash to get me started...
( *win it before i do lol* )
Ice_Magik
20-04-2005, 11:54 AM
Mate you've got a kick-ass car, get a kickass muffler.
do it properly, throw out your lukey, get a MagnaFlow.
if your worried about rice, why are you thinking about getting a cannon ?
thats where rice is born.
for ultimate Rice, put it on an angle like neo has suggested !
Neosaber
20-04-2005, 11:55 AM
why are you thinking about getting a cannon ?
thats where rice is born !
arrrggg read my above comment you monkey
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 11:55 AM
Mate you've got a kick-ass car, get a kickass muffler.
do it properly, throw out your lukey, get a MagnaFlow.
if your worried about rice, why are you thinking about getting a cannon ?
thats where rice is born !
lol cheers for the compliment peeps...
as i said i LOVE the sound, but hate the look... cannons are ugly but nothing sounds the same...
Ice_Magik
20-04-2005, 11:58 AM
:shhhh: skyline boy :D
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 12:02 PM
:flame: FLAME ON :flame:
Neosaber
20-04-2005, 12:04 PM
sorry.....let me help u all out........
So what is a "ricer?" It is a pretty complex question so let's go to the experts.
Rice-Boy, from www.riceboypage.com offers up this pearl: " There are the ones that care about performance and want to make their cars go fast/handle well. Then there are the ones that want to make their car look good. But there is a third group [ricers] - those who try to make their car look fast."
[A] riceboy starts by adding visual modifications to the vehicle, to give it the image of "looking fast." This can be done by adding a body kit, a performance uni-blade windshield wiper, vast amounts of stickers strategically placed on any part of the vehicle, performance seat belt covers, PIAA driving lights that are fluorescent or blue colored, large exhaust tip (at least twice the size of the actual exhaust pipe), 130+ decibel stereo system, and an oversized rear wing/spoiler.
Riceboy has a vehicle that is generally not considered a performance car, ("performance car" meaning it stems from the sports car or muscle car background).
Riceboy starts by adding visual modifications to the vehicle, to give it the image of "looking fast." (see above)
Riceboys "race" from a rolling start of about 30mph. This is not a real race.
Riceboys call their exhaust systems "high-tech" sounding. We don't know about the rest of the world, but our farts sure don't sound remotely high-tech.
To draw more attention to their vehicles, when large crowds are in the area, they tend to drive by several times at about 6000rpm so everyone can see their immaculate vehicle speed by and fart. Riceboy drives fast or in crowded areas doing all that he can to attract the most attention and turn the most heads.
Ultimately, this is riceboy's goal. :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
Ice_Magik
20-04-2005, 12:04 PM
hahaha im just playin :booty:
what kinda mods u got on tha skyski ?
Neosaber
20-04-2005, 12:40 PM
hahaha im just playin :booty:
what kinda mods u got on tha skyski ?
HAHA skyski...never heard anyone say that one b4.......did u like my riceboy writeup? ahahah i am some of those....well the getting peoples attention and rolling drags anyways....rolling drags are the shizzit coz the turbo is already spooling and good to go :)
umm mods.....all i've got is:
turbo back 3" 5igen exhaust
poddy waddy filter
blitz 2 stage boost controller
HKS sequential BOV
thats about all the important stuff, i have alot planned for my baby but it costs alot lol and right now...iam pretty happy with how it goes lol
Planned very soonage:
Blitz front mount intercooler
turbo dump pipe
bigger cat
fluffy dice
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 12:43 PM
gotta have the fluffy dice lol
wont go fast otherwise... any stick on hp?
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 12:54 PM
OMG... ive posted over 35 times today lol
.................................... lol
[SEIRYU]
20-04-2005, 02:05 PM
who has a loud zorst thats not a cannon here? and what is it?
97_verada
20-04-2005, 02:36 PM
who has a loud zorst thats not a cannon here? and what is it?
I once had a loud one on my 1st gen magna when the tip fell of it roared like a dirty v8 but sucked back like a riced up corolla with a 5" tip
dontknow
20-04-2005, 08:06 PM
aaah ok then...
ive already got a lukey sports on it and i HAAATE the noise it makes...
like ball bearings in a baked bean can when its cold... shiite as
Y does it make this sound? i got a 4cyl TF which has a 2.25" with a straight-thru muffler on the end, and it also makes this so called "ball bearings in a baked bean can" :bowrofl: noise when cold! :confused:
Black Beard
20-04-2005, 08:18 PM
I've got another possibly stupid question about cannons - here goes:
What are peoples thoughts the performance benefits of Cannon mufflers?? Does the design make them flow better/less restrictive than more conventional muffler designs?? or are they essentially the same as any other straight thru muffler with regards to performance?
The reason I ask is because I recently read a post on a car forum (may have been this one - can't even remember anymore) some one saying they would never have got a cannon if it wasn't for the enthusiastic endorsement of their local "exhaust specialist"? - that got me thinking...... do they perform better than other mufflers??? or was this guy just trying to sell more cannons?
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 10:36 AM
im not sure about that... just love the noise :D:D:D
Cummins
21-04-2005, 11:02 AM
hey hey peeps...
jus wondering if its possible to maybe weld my stock ralliart tip to a cannon so that the fuuurz dont annoy me if i do it...
also cause i love the noise but hate the look (personally) and i dont wanna get slagged off for being a "ricer" lol
any opinions?
G'day,
I have replaced the muffler on mine with a Lukey ultraflow 3" stainless cannon style(it's a shame to hide it under the bar cos it's nicely polished) and i had the original tip chopped and put back on so it still looks good with the kit. I love the sound of it, good note round town, can't hear it on the highway.
Cummins
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 11:09 AM
did they have to weld xtra pipe on it to put the tip back on?
Cummins
21-04-2005, 11:34 AM
did they have to weld xtra pipe on it to put the tip back on?
They cut the tip back to give the 3" size and then welded a bit of 3" pipe onto the tip and cleaned it up nice then cut it to length and welded it to the muffler(which has a 3" in 3" out). looks very neat.
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 11:40 AM
nice... are you able to put a pic up for me bro?
Cummins
21-04-2005, 11:49 AM
nice... are you able to put a pic up for me bro?
I'll take one and post it up when i get home ~5ish. I'll take an audio of it as well if i can.
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 11:53 AM
dont worry about the audio mate eh lol
i gots no sound on any of me puters :(
choonga
21-04-2005, 12:40 PM
I'll take one and post it up when i get home ~5ish. I'll take an audio of it as well if i can.
audio!!! i want audio!!
Cummins
21-04-2005, 04:02 PM
I had to put a link to the mp3, hope it works. It gets a bit loud for the recorder when u back off.
Exhaust (http://www.cummins.id.au/public_html/exhaust-ralliart.mp3) (742KB)
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 04:27 PM
nice one there mate :D
that looks great eh... thats what i wanted to know :D
Thanks heaps for that, pity i cant hear the sound eh :(
damn puters with no sound lol
Sideswipe
21-04-2005, 04:56 PM
I've got another possibly stupid question about cannons - here goes:
What are peoples thoughts the performance benefits of Cannon mufflers?? Does the design make them flow better/less restrictive than more conventional muffler designs?? or are they essentially the same as any other straight thru muffler with regards to performance?
The reason I ask is because I recently read a post on a car forum (may have been this one - can't even remember anymore) some one saying they would never have got a cannon if it wasn't for the enthusiastic endorsement of their local "exhaust specialist"? - that got me thinking...... do they perform better than other mufflers??? or was this guy just trying to sell more cannons?
So does anyone have an answer to this? I'm curious as well.
[SEIRYU]
21-04-2005, 05:04 PM
to the best of my *very limited* knowledge you only get a REAL big performance increase if you gots a snail or the like, but who ****en cares really.... LISTEN TO EM lol :D
When you think about the design of a straight through and a cannon they're really the same, a cannon just has a massive tip and the straight through doesnt... performance gain would be so small it wouldn't be shown on a dyno i'd imagine. I've got 2.25 on the TP and its pretty loud, lukey ultra.
Driphta
22-04-2005, 11:38 AM
I have a canon on my car at the moment and i have actually cut the rear bumper out to accomodate the 4" tip that it has on it and everyone that has heard my car thinks that it sounds great... Originally i had it on an angle down the bottom like somone suggested and it just looked tacky like it was just tacked on there temporarily but now it has it's place... As for power when you put it on you will automatically notice the gain (in your head) as you wind it out through every gear to hear what it sounds like :D
Then you see your fuel economy going downhill after thrashing it everywhere :cry:
I would just leave the canon showing... as someone else said if someone thought that it was rice then it is becuz they are jealous of your car man...
[SEIRYU]
22-04-2005, 11:41 AM
ta mate...
power increase in me mind is all i can really afford atm anywayz :D:D:D
Killer
22-04-2005, 11:56 AM
Stop wondering - get an XForce. :)
whitemagna
22-04-2005, 02:28 PM
aaah ok then...
ive already got a lukey sports on it and i HAAATE the noise it makes...
like ball bearings in a baked bean can when its cold... shiite as
cannons sound like that when there cold as well :s but its all good when the car has warmed up
[SEIRYU]
22-04-2005, 02:46 PM
aaah okie then... i guess ill just have to keep looking...
BTW what is the ideal pipe size to lead upto it?
2.5" or 3.0"?
Kansai
22-04-2005, 03:06 PM
I don't like the look of cannons. Is it possible to position it where the resonators are rather than at the back. Or is it just an expensive hotdog up there. I like the sound of some cannons. A GTi just went past with a small cannon and it sounded tight.
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