Finished my CAI last night but 2 dark 2 take pics.

so here they are now.

COSTS and PARTS (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17944)

airbox side of things looks the goods, the pipe in the front bar could look a little better? :)

i can't talk, you should see mine :bowrofl: very dodgy temperary job(does the trick though)just in time for the drags to see if it makes a difference :D

hahahaaha the pipe down near the grill looks exactly like mine lol, but i put mesh over mine, you are gonna put something over it arnt you

thats it im gunna go get me one of them 90mm plumbing adapters!!

Ive hacked at my left hand grill where driving lights are meant to go so it resembles the rest of the grill, the pic describes it better. i do need to place a small sheet of fly screen behind.

the pipe is secured behind the grill pointing forwards towards my destination.

i do have a question tho, if i do a huge smoking burnout, dont laugh, have you tried it ???
it will starve my engine wont it. ?

PM me if u wanna c the clip of it and i will email it 2 ya or pm me on msn

skask_boy@hotmail.com

it is 6.5MB tho so only adsl or better plz

thats it im gunna go get me one of them 90mm plumbing adapters!!
:stoopid:
Mines held in with duct tape only!

nice job mate very similar to mine just got to tidy up the bottom but going to try smething differnt by attaching it to the stock intake

quote - i do have a question tho, if i do a huge smoking burnout, dont laugh, have you tried it ???
it will starve my engine wont it. ?

ummm i hope not coz i wanna do a burnout at the drags next week

i supose there is one way to find out :P

Ive hacked at my left hand grill where driving lights are meant to go so it resembles the rest of the grill, the pic describes it better. i do need to place a small sheet of fly screen behind.

the pipe is secured behind the grill pointing forwards towards my destination.

i do have a question tho, if i do a huge smoking burnout, dont laugh, have you tried it ???
it will starve my engine wont it. ?

PM me if u wanna c the clip of it and i will email it 2 ya or pm me on msn

skask_boy@hotmail.com

it is 6.5MB tho so only adsl or better plz

nice. I did exactly the same as you have cutting out the fin bits of that grille, i just havent been bothered putting it on yet lol

I have been planning a CAI setup but was going to join it to the orignal snorkel but after looking at some more pics of set ups like The Photographer's and EZ Boy's I'm thinking it maybe easier and possibly look neater to hook it straight up to the box and loose the snorkel...

I've been mucking around with my cai a bit recently and thought i'd try out the rubber adaptor. Just went to bunnings and grabbed a 90mm storm water joiner "jenco 6069 90mm 83mm-94mm. Now the big question is this the same as what you guys are using and if so how the hell did you get it over the air box hole mine looks to small by a mile it fits inside the airbox hole nicely but that defeats the purpose. I completly took off the metal tightner and couldn't get it anywhere near over the hole. Could you guys just confirm what you used and how you did it?

thanks in advance

edit: I've just read your captions closer and you actually put it into the hole yourself? hmmm thinking time

the rubber bit squeezes titely into the box not around, it should squeeze up to the second ring

thats exactly the same part m8
remove your snorkel and the squash the pipe into where the snorkel went, up to the second ring

Why remove the original snorkel when you put in the CAI? The more paths of air entering the airbox the better. Have both.

thanks photographer I've just set it up that way I'll see how it goes. I actually used a combiniation of bends and straight pieces of 90mm pvc piping for the rest of the piping to achieve smoother less acute bends and the pvc means it is dead smooth on the inside meaning less air turbulence.

I will test out this method with the rubber joiner to the airbox compared to my previous setup where I had cut the snorkel to the base which joined to the pvc. This new way looks neater with the rubber but you lose a fair bit of internal diameter on the airbox hole :( it would be nice to find a way to get it over the top of the hole.

AFA last time I checked with mitsu about the pricing of a replacement airbox it made the decision for me. Yes adding a pipe as well as the snorkel would be great but as far as I can tell this would involve cutting the airbox which I really would rather avoid

This new way looks neater with the rubber but you lose a fair bit of internal diameter on the airbox hole :( it would be nice to find a way to get it over the top of the hole.


i had a look at mitre 10 today and know what you mean there. Wonder if a larger one is available so it can go over the top. At this point i think i will stick with my 90 to 100mm PVC adapter boiled in a pot of water and squashed to shape

where does mine go on a 2.6 gen2? it disapears inside the gaurd somewhere. how would i do one on mine? :confused:

Point taken.

Point taken.
but what do i do?????

but what do i do?????

lol AFA was saying point taken to slayer

heaps of info here on 2nd gen CAI...............use the search button on these forums :)

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12955&highlight=2nd gen cai

i had a look at mitre 10 today and know what you mean there. Wonder if a larger one is available so it can go over the top. At this point i think i will stick with my 90 to 100mm PVC adapter boiled in a pot of water and squashed to shape

Yeah mate I've probably been backwards and forwards to bunnings 10 times now swapping pvc piping angles to get the perfect fit in my car thankfully they have a very generous returns policy. I had a solid look around and there is a 100mm adaptor which is exactly like I have but bigger :) I think the 100mm would fit nicely over the air box but may be to big to drop down to the 90mm pvc.

I think the cut off snorkel setup I used was quite good but not everyone wants to cut there snorkel, I will continue to tinker with the setup and let you know if I come up with anything

Oh I must add I've definately noticed an improvement since converting to 90mm pvc from tubing that looked quite similar to the photographers setup definately a lot harder to work with though if you get pedantic like I have with it.

Dude. Have u calculated the open area of that grille bit in square centimeters? Really reckon it's open enuff? Hmmm, didn't think so.
Also, using flyscreen stuff will restrict the airflow more.
Get some thin gauge wire mesh, use the brackets of the old plastic grille bit to secure to original spot. Place the pipe facing forwards and put a bell mouth on it.
Then it's good. Also, that scrunchy pipe u r using, is too, well, rippled inside, creates small turbulenses on the inner surface, where the air travels. Using dead smooth pipe is the best. If u cannot get some, using PVC is even better, but harder to create - lot of work.
The joint to the airbox is good. :cool:

my mod cost me a total of $35 and its getting a ****load more of cold air than it was when stock.

im happy with it for the moment

i will change it when i could be botherd.

in the mean time could we see some pics of your cold air intake Killer ???

my mod cost me a total of $35 and its getting a ****load more of cold air than it was when stock.
im happy with it for the moment
i will change it when i could be botherd.
in the mean time could we see some pics of your cold air intake Killer ???

Unfortunately the front scoop pic is not very bright... The only one I have. Perhaps I should get some more. Slayer, wanna walk over with your dig cam?
The orange pipe is aviation heater pipe, almost dead smooth inside, regardelss of the external look. Airbox elbow is 80 mm. Behind the front grille, there is another 120 deg 80mm elbow, bracketed to the reservoir bracket. And the bellmouth.
I'm thinking about changing to 90 mm PVC, but....

Ok update time I just did another hour of standing around in the plumbing section of bunnings and came up with another possibility. Although the 90mm adaptor seems to fit nice by mine and killers calculations the airhole with the rubber tube pushed in reduces the surface area to less than the rest of the 90mm piping which isn't desirable so back to the drawing board.

I tested the 100mm rubber adaptor and it will not go over a 90mm tube no matter if it’s male or female its just too big. What I did discover though was a 100mm-90mm adaptor. Now maybe just maybe I could do a 100mm rubber join at the box which joins nicely with a 100mm 88 degree bend which has the 100-90 adaptor in it I then slot my 90mm tube straight in and were laughing. Only questionable thing at the moment is whether the 100mm 88degree bend will fit into the space where i have the 90mm angles at the moment.

I'll attach a picture of one of the 1st test setups I had with 3 90mm bends (22.5/22.5/45) joined to the cutoff snorkel stump as I've had a couple of pm's asking about what we've done

There's a scratch on your bumber!!!!!! :shock:

After a first attempt to have a custom made CAi in my ralliart, I come up with the ideea in photo2.

After some good advise from greenmatt (thanks for that mate) i came up with htis last set-up (photos 1 and 3).

Some of you will probably say that I am out of mu mind to have cut a hole in my ralliart bumper but I think looks good.

What do you guys think?

P.S. The bmw was the hint given by greenmatt

And I have also covered the battery with a stock cover as I had on my prev. magna.

the join to the airbox definately looks good. Still looks like you used a tube with a bumpy interiour from there onwards though (which isn't really optimal) or am I looking at it incorrectly?

Was mucking around with my cai again tonight and somehow managed to lose a section (i think killers dog ate it) so I currently have no cai and early work tomorrow :(

What is the actual rubber join your using at the airbox? I've tried 90mm (to small had to go inside the airbox) and tonight a 100 which fits very nicely around the airbox hole but I then had to use a convertor to switch back down to 90mm for the rest of my tubing. Would be interested in trying what you have used as it looks like it may do the job

the join to the airbox definately looks good. Still looks like you used a tube with a bumpy interiour from there onwards though (which isn't really optimal) or am I looking at it incorrectly?

Was mucking around with my cai again tonight and somehow managed to lose a section (i think killers dog ate it) so I currently have no cai and early work tomorrow :(

What is the actual rubber join your using at the airbox? I've tried 90mm (to small had to go inside the airbox) and tonight a 100 which fits very nicely around the airbox hole but I then had to use a convertor to switch back down to 90mm for the rest of my tubing. Would be interested in trying what you have used as it looks like it may do the job

You're right. A 100 - 90 mm joint and then between that and the tube I've used a 45 degrees joint (from Bunnings), the type used for water piping or similar. It's actually white but I spray painted it black.

[QUOTE=Slayer]Still looks like you used a tube with a bumpy interiour from there onwards though (which isn't really optimal) or am I looking at it incorrectly?

You're right again, but I haven't found anything better. And the interior of the tube is not so bumpy. I think should be ok.

Interesting progress guys... makes me feel guilty for not getting off my ass and making a box for my pod filter already. I am trying to find another material other than acrylic... but failing miserably. Certainly your piping is of interest to me as I still have to get a pipe from the new box down the same path. Cheers.

Oh and I see all this fancy work... but what about the results? It's no good if you squeeze the pedal harder... any obvious changes you can comment on?



I started getting heart palpitations when I saw that hole cut in your Ralliart bumper... I understand why you did but....nrrrgggg never mind lol

i gotta get a pic of mine, you'll wet yourself laughing!!! lol

I started getting heart palpitations when I saw that hole cut in your Ralliart bumper... I understand why you did but....nrrrgggg never mind lol

I know what you mean. I still look at it and feel my heart stops :headbange but the more I am getting used to it the more I like it. :bouncin:

What I did discover though was a 100mm-90mm adaptor. Now maybe just maybe I could do a 100mm rubber join at the box which joins nicely with a 100mm 88 degree bend which has the 100-90 adaptor in it I then slot my 90mm tube straight in and were laughing

what DOES fit is those 100mm to 90mm adapters. pretty much an ideal fit once you heat the 100mm part and squish it into an oval-ish shape. I think i might be the 100mm to 90mm PVC adapter pioneer? lol

When i first thought of doing CAI i went to a gardering place and got some ribbed piping, and after thinking about it for about 15 mins i thought "bugger that!" and off i went to get some silky smooth PVC. It might be harder to work with than the ribbed stuff, but its much more fun, and more effective. And besides it doesnt take that long to size it all up, the annoying part is getting a good seal to the airbox. I did have my 100mm to 90mm adapter glue well into the airbox, but when my clutch got done the guy ripped it out, and i have just used tape to secure it back on. Its all you need, and the looks of it really doesnt bother me that much.

Before we know it all the threads that we used to get titled "Panel versus Pod - which is better?" are soon to be replaced by "Panel CAI versus POD CAI - which is better?" lol...

Before we know it all the threads that we used to get titled "Panel versus Pod - which is better?" are soon to be replaced by "Panel CAI versus POD CAI - which is better?" lol...

no no "Ribbed CAI piping vs PVC CAI piping - which is better?" lol

a few people have done different types of cai for 2.6 gen 2 engines, if you want more info pm me :).

a few people have done different types of cai for 2.6 gen 2 engines, if you want more info pm me :).
he'll inform you on how to duct tape piping to things! :bowrofl::bowrofl:

After a first attempt to have a custom made CAi in my ralliart, I come up with the ideea in photo2.

After some good advise from greenmatt (thanks for that mate) i came up with htis last set-up (photos 1 and 3).

Some of you will probably say that I am out of mu mind to have cut a hole in my ralliart bumper but I think looks good.

What do you guys think?

P.S. The bmw was the hint given by greenmatt

And I have also covered the battery with a stock cover as I had on my prev. magna.

That looks pretty cool! The only thing it needs is a bit of a flare on the entrance, maybe a speaker port or a turbo bellmouth or something similar. Looks good though! Does it work well?

he'll inform you on how to duct tape piping to things! :bowrofl::bowrofl:

lol

GOLD!

That looks pretty cool! The only thing it needs is a bit of a flare on the entrance, maybe a speaker port or a turbo bellmouth or something similar. Looks good though! Does it work well?

I think th eengine runs a bit better, it might be just me though. I have a unichip on it to so it might be because of that.

Anyway, I am happy.

You're right. A 100 - 90 mm joint and then between that and the tube I've used a 45 degrees joint (from Bunnings), the type used for water piping or similar. It's actually white but I spray painted it black.

thanks for getting back to me mate that is exactly the connection I would be looking for but cannot say I've ever seen them in bunning down here (I've been to about 4 different ones now and know the plumbing section like the back of my hand) but yeah I must say your top connection looks great.

As Tim-E says I believe I felt a increase in smoothness through the revs when I went from a rubber bumpy piping (similar to yours) to pvc but the ammount of hours involved in perfecting the bends from the airbox down to the bottom and then to the front snorkel has been absolutely rediculous and I've woken up grumpy at the fact that it's out of action again :(

So my summary is if you want a nice cai that's easy to work with and more effective than the stock setup go from some flexible rubber piping that is as smooth internally as you can possibly find

If you want the best and smoothest airflow try pvc or some similar material but be prepared for a lot of hours put into it and missing joins by a matter of 2mm is very common (keep in mind I also went crazy and bought parts that would absolutely maximise the length (bunch of 22.5's etc) of the bends etc stretching out the angle of the curve. It would probably be easier if you just stuck to 90deg and 45deg bends but theoretically not as optimal.

Could you go to an exhaust place and get them to ben up a custom bit of stainless? Would fit perfect and look pretty cool!

Could you go to an exhaust place and get them to ben up a custom bit of stainless? Would fit perfect and look pretty cool!

I'd say so I actually said to killer last night it would be so much easier to get the measurements and angles of bends and get something made up but in the end I think that destroys the whole DIY and Budget thing. Honestly if it wasn't for the 100's of spare 90mm pvc bends I have lying around now it wouldn't of cost more than $20-$30 for a fairly optimal setup. It's just been the research and experimentation to find the right fit that has taken up so much time and to a degree money because of all the wasted bits Ihave lying around.

[QUOTE=Slayer]thanks for getting back to me mate that is exactly the connection I would be looking for but cannot say I've ever seen them in bunning down here (I've been to about 4 different ones now and know the plumbing section like the back of my hand) but yeah I must say your top connection looks great.

Where are you in NSW? When I bought mine, I actually bought two of the 45 degrees bents. So I still have one that is not in use. I might be able to meet and I'll give you mine. And is already spray-painted matt black.

[QUOTE=Slayer]thanks for getting back to me mate that is exactly the connection I would be looking for but cannot say I've ever seen them in bunning down here (I've been to about 4 different ones now and know the plumbing section like the back of my hand) but yeah I must say your top connection looks great.

Where are you in NSW? When I bought mine, I actually bought two of the 45 degrees bents. So I still have one that is not in use. I might be able to meet and I'll give you mine. And is already spray-painted matt black.

Hi Mate

Thanks for your offer, I actually have heaps of pvc bends lying around (way too much experimenting with sizes) what i'm most keen on is the rubber joiner with the metal clamps your using to join the airbox to the 90mm pvc. I can't say I've seen one in any of the bunnings I've been to (south-west sydney) so keen to find out where you found that as it may let me go back to my 90mm setup (using 100mm up the top atm) whilst keeping a neat join at the box

thanks again

he'll inform you on how to duct tape piping to things! :bowrofl::bowrofl:
lol i'll duct tape ur mouth....errrr fingers :confused: .

The only thing "dodgy" about my intake is the duct tape (which works btw), but you could always make a metal flange for it, and then a mount for it behind the bumper.
I did a fair bit of research, as alot of people have here, on what is and isn't possible, you can pm me if you need help with it, i promise no duct tape hehe.

lol i'll duct tape ur mouth....errrr fingers :confused: .

The only thing "dodgy" about my intake is the duct tape (which works btw), but you could always make a metal flange for it, and then a mount for it behind the bumper.


beleive me that not the only dodgy thing........ :bowrofl:

Hi Mate

Thanks for your offer, I actually have heaps of pvc bends lying around (way too much experimenting with sizes) what i'm most keen on is the rubber joiner with the metal clamps your using to join the airbox to the 90mm pvc. I can't say I've seen one in any of the bunnings I've been to (south-west sydney) so keen to find out where you found that as it may let me go back to my 90mm setup (using 100mm up the top atm) whilst keeping a neat join at the box

thanks again

Bought mine from Bunnings in Blacktown, on Prospect highway.

i have a question

if i wanted to run some pvc pipe down to the foglight hole, how do i get past this metal crap behind it??

i have a question

if i wanted to run some pvc pipe down to the foglight hole, how do i get past this metal crap behind it??

Hi Mate

That's pretty easy it's just the foglight holder. I removed mine a couple of years back and from memory it was just a couple of screws and bolts and it came right out leaving a heap more room. Only downside is it removes the holes that the plastic fake foglight thingy (that we use as a scoop) screws into but mine holds nicely with the pressure of the 2 side bits holding it in. It has only come off once when a cat decided to try to launch itself up my cai at 50km/h :(

i have a question

if i wanted to run some pvc pipe down to the foglight hole, how do i get past this metal crap behind it??

Hey im pretty sure i have seen your car before. Do you go to East Perth Tafe ?

Hey im pretty sure i have seen your car before. Do you go to East Perth Tafe ?

nope ! i work in city...


i just bought my car 4 days ago.. previous owner lived out in kallaroo.. :nuts:

i have a question

if i wanted to run some pvc pipe down to the foglight hole, how do i get past this metal crap behind it??

Am currently doing my CAI, however i have foglights.....any suggestions as to where i should run the piping too?