I wish to improve my braking system, i know i need new pads and discs, but would like to see if i can use a larger Diameter rotor with large calipers. My thoughts centred around a GTO setup or a 3rd Gen setup if they are larger? Any one Know if either of the two setups just bolt on?

dont quote me but ur 2nd gen verada already has twin pot calipers... size of disc should be larger than the 3rd gen if not the same

3rd gens only get single pots up front unless its a AWD or Ralliart :doubt:

it does have twin piston brakes but there only single sided, i was hoping to use the GTO's as they have 4 pistons, 2 on ech side giving more even braking pressure across the surface of the disc and pad.

Dont worry about your rotors just yet, all i suggest you do is get some bendix metal kings for the front and rears. These pads will stop a semi on 1 pad alone and i swear by them and use them in my car.

they arnt cheap but are well worth it. try the pads first then if your still not happy (which you wont be) upgrade the lines with braided hoses and try find a larger master cylinder. bigger pots are useless without those mods i belive

This might be dumb... but why would you need better brakes, unless you are carrying extra weight or have more power from the motor, etc?

Like i understand the reason why better pads are important (to stop fade from heat, etc) but why would you need larger calipers or larger rotors?

I can lock up my wheels in my car (I'm not saying thats good) but if I'm doing 60 and can make the wheels lock up, doesn't that mean my brakes are doing their job (obviously your trying to avoid locking up your wheels - but it's the point wheel going 60 to 0 instantly?? that's like high braking efficientcy)

And even then, better brakes means more chance of the wheels locking up unless you got ABS or something...

my 2.2 cents inc gst... open to correction too - so tell me what better brakes are more important (other than the obvious ie. more weight to stop, etc)

Cheers,
Bill

gto brakes wont fit
TZABOY tried this on his 2nd gen and had no luck

If your Verada already has ABS, then you have twin spot callipers.

In that case, then just replace the rotors with RDA slotted rotors and you'll have ample braking power.

If you dont have ABS, then source some ABS callipers and their respective calliper brackets and bolt it on. The only thing you'll need to do is make new hoses as the twin piston ones have a different fitting into the calliper. You could just get the hoses off the wreck that you get the callipers from.

Also note: The callipers are the same as the Pajero callipers. Not 100% sure about the calliper bracket though, but it stands to reason it would be the same.

I've done this upgrade myself and my-****ing-god the stopping power is unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: About the locking up, locking up isnt good, nor is it useful. You want good braking power without locking up. Thats what this upgrade delivers on. I found that I had to mash the pedal to the floor as hard as I could at 80 just to get it to lock. By the time it actually DID lock I was doing about 20-30 km/h anyway.

No ABS, why would i want better brakes? Because i value my safety and other road users safety, i travel with alot of people in my car regualry and doesnt pull up well enough for my liking. I know the rotors when last machined were on the limit and i have standard replacement pads in at the moment, a move to new rotors and pads will transform it markedly, but i plan for eninge mods soon and its always better to have too much brakes than too little......

No ABS, why would i want better brakes? Because i value my safety and other road users safety, i travel with alot of people in my car regualry and doesnt pull up well enough for my liking. I know the rotors when last machined were on the limit and i have standard replacement pads in at the moment, a move to new rotors and pads will transform it markedly, but i plan for eninge mods soon and its always better to have too much brakes than too little......

Agreed.

thanks KillBilly! but if not a caliper upsize, what discs and pads and fluid do you recomend, i already know Jason said that i should get bendix pads, but any comments? NB only the fronts need working.

I would try changing my pads first if I were you. I also carry heavy stuff and regularly tow a trailer and when I changed up to Bendix Advance pads I noticed a huge difference in the stopping power. They make a huge difference and for a full set they aren't all that expensive only about $60 I think. This is a rough price from memory though don't quote me.

I would try changing my pads first if I were you. I also carry heavy stuff and regularly tow a trailer and when I changed up to Bendix Advance pads I noticed a huge difference in the stopping power. They make a huge difference and for a full set they aren't all that expensive only about $60 I think. This is a rough price from memory though don't quote me.
Advanced pads arnt really made for heavy duty use, they are a confort pad made for quiet application and long life.

Ultimates are along the same lines but aimed a little more towards hi-po use.

Metals are what your after as they never fade, always stop.. at the price of your rotors although.

verada's are heaps slow to pull up welll i know mine is

verada's are heaps slow to pull up welll i know mine is
where u been missy?

i got dba slotted rotors on the front of mine and bendix performax pads, the thing stops on a dime (with out locking up the wheels at 60km's an hour(unless i nail it)), also look into your suspension as well, as dud shocks will hamper your braking efforts!