I've been thinking bout a pod filter, and i know on a TE+ Model you really need CAI because of the area the MAS sensor is in, but what about on a TR/TS. The MAS is on the far left of the engine bay, do u reakon a CAI is really needed

Cheers
-MB

CAI is always needed when trying to get those extra kw's Killbilly and i are working on CAI for a pod and an airbox for the TR/TS range as 4's and 6's have the air intake in the same spot. To achieve CAI you'll need a smaller battery and holesaw a hole in the metal behind the right headlight to get a pipe up from the front bar to the engine bay. I'll let you know how i go

Just thought that I would let ya's know that the K&N replacement panel air filter is the way to go. You dont get the nice intake growl but the air flows through the sensor properly achieving best results. Pod's create a strange air current giving the sensor inaccurate results and youu cant get full potential. Plus the pod will suck in warm air as opposed to the stock intake system.
By the way me and my friends dad and the plastic welder at work are going to make a CAI for my TR (btw the above information is for a 4 cyl and so is this) and it is going to have a large rambox. Dont worry we have it sussed it is going to be SIC!!!

im currently about half way through making a cai box for the tr/ts. it is coming together quite well and im going to put the prototype in the engine bay in the next couple of days to see how it goes (its only cardboard, will eventually be made of clear polycarbonate). it will involve moving some stuff around and removing the complete old setup to make enough space but i dont think anyone will care when you see my final product. and i promise it wont take as long as the aussie magna bodykit :D

Cool...we're looking forward to it.

Im thinking of one of those kits that relocates your battery to the boot in sealed enclosure with ventilation. I'll find the site.

Coz then it's relocated and there's HEAPS of room

for mine you wont need to move the battery. you'd be amazed how big a space is opened up when you remove the complete air intake from the left hand side. it also frees up access down so you can run intake pipes to the bottom of the bar or light holes etc. i will take some pictures when i fit the prototype so you can see what i mean.

Cool looking forward to the pics mate, I did remove the whole intake snorkel from the side, just thought it'd be straighter with the battery moved...but I look forward to seeing yours!

Yeah I cant wait to see the pics too. I'll see if yours look like the plan thats in my head. And if it is and yours works well - sweet :)

umm... like i said in a different post.. i dunno much about anything when it comes to anything, but why do you need a CAI for a pod filter?
Is it a need or a suggested improvement, power wise?

Pradaking,

Pod fil;ters work best when sucking in Cold. engine bay air is warm and there isn't enough flow in there ot keep it cool

CAI or cold air intake basically feeds cold air right into the mouth of the pod. therefore giving you better performance and power.

Downsides to cai are that water and stones can be scooped up the through the pipe

Cheers
-MB

oh... i see.. well, are they always "home made", or can you buy them etc? Short of a front mount intercooler...

an intercooler runs water through a turbo to keep it cool. all cold air induction is is some sort of sealed setup which prevents warm engine air entering the pod and being recirculated through the combustion process. you dont want this because warm air expands so you dont cant mix in as much through the injectors. by sucking in colder air which is more dense you get a better mix which should result in more power from a greater combustion.(very simplified definition). basically its just a box which holds the pod with some sort of piping feeding cold air into it from outside the engine bay.

oh yeah sorry, you can get properly made cai for some cars like comodores and probably some jap imports but i dont know of anyone who makes them for the lowly old magna. hopefully however if my plans go well i might be able to change that. will just have to wait and see though. im not going to make any promises like the aussie magna bodykit :cry:

sounds good. how long til your done?

About the bodykit, whats the go? whats it look like when will it be availible?

Cheers,
Cam.

im almost finished building the prototype. once thats done i then have to find someway or someone to make it. i have no idea what the kit looks like or when it will be done but it doesnt matter coz it aint gonna fit our shape anyway.

where did u get an adapter plate for a TR magna so that a pod filter can go on and how much??????

it comes with the K&N oval pod filter that you need for these cars

where can i get an adaptor plate for the circular pod filter???

hey wats better anyway, the replacement k & n panel filter or the oval filter?

[quote:529577f7ab]hey wats better anyway, the replacement k & n panel filter or the oval filter?[/quote:529577f7ab]

Depends what you are looking for, ive got the oval filter and i love it, sounds great when you rev it up! but some people prefer the panel. there have been a few fights on here over which is better so its really up to you, The pod also looks heaps cooler in the engine bay :D


[quote:529577f7ab]where can i get an adaptor plate for the circular pod filter???[/quote:529577f7ab]

No Idea, You could try autobarn, maybe they can get one in for you, but i would loose the round filter as they cause problems with the mitsubishi mas sensor, Put it this way, would K&N spend all that money developing a filter specifically for these cars if a universal one would do fine?

Do a search for pod vs panel arguments lol..there's been plenty of them.

how much can i get a oval pod filter for???

Contact RPW, I think they're 250 or something.

Not cheap.

Hello everyone. You can pick up the difference with CAI. I have got mine done by RPW :D

an intercooler runs water through a turbo to keep it cool.


An Intercooler runs air through the turbo to keep it cool... just thought I let u know. :D

An Oval POD Filter is 220 Bucks from RPW I think...

Works wonder, huge surface area too

CHEERS

I have an adapter plate to run a ROUND pod on a TR/TS. I had a round k&n Pod on my car for ages and NEVER had any problems at all. I found Zero improvement when i bought an Oval Pod From RPW. Did it cause i was told by everyone that my car needed an oval one. I think a round one may only cause problems on highly modified cars that are sucking shit loads more air. I reckon anyone (like me) with only slight mods can get away with a round one because as i said, i had NO problems what so ever.

In saying that, does anyone have a use for a Round Pod Adapter?

The intake air runs through an intercooler to get cooled down by the ambient air after being compressed by the turbo.

Thanks MIG, I am glad someone finally got this right about intercoolers.

Air goes through the filter, through the turbo then through the intercooler. Outside air flows through the cooling fins much like it does through the radiator on the cooling system while the air charge runs through the intercooler core similar to the coolant in a radiator or the gas in the air con, thus a lot of heat is washed away giving a cooler charge.
Some do spray a mist on the outside to assist in cooling and a more extreme way is to run an air con compressor running low pressure so not too much drag is created and have the outside air cooled as it flows through.
I had this on a 13Bt years ago and the drag from the aircon compressor was small compared to the gain in power due to much cooler air charge.

[quote:0bcaed5dcb="magwgn"]an intercooler runs water through a turbo to keep it cool.


An Intercooler runs air through the turbo to keep it cool... just thought I let u know. :D

An Oval POD Filter is 220 Bucks from RPW I think...

Works wonder, huge surface area too

CHEERS[/quote:0bcaed5dcb]

Opps sorry typo error :oops: I meant to say what Mal said..