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Rall!art
02-05-2005, 05:12 PM
When I bought my Ralliart magna, the tyre pressure in all 4 wheels were 38Psi. I've just checked the placard in the door and it says Front 30Psi and Rear 26Psi. I was thinking 30Psi sounds a bit less and 26Psi doesn't sound like enough. So what tyre pressure u guys have in the Pirelli P6000 on ur ralliart magna?

Sharkie
02-05-2005, 05:32 PM
what size are they

Rall!art
02-05-2005, 05:35 PM
225/50

moparcm ralliart
02-05-2005, 05:35 PM
i have mine set at 36 on all four

fencer
02-05-2005, 07:32 PM
The tyre placard pressures are way too low.

I have mine set at 36psi on all four tyres (I replaced the Pirellis with Falkens), and it feels about right.

Ralliart 410
02-05-2005, 07:59 PM
i have mine set at 36 on all four

Ditto!

BLKMAG
02-05-2005, 08:02 PM
i run 38 all round in my 225/45 falkens

el3ment
02-05-2005, 08:14 PM
When I bought my Ralliart magna, the tyre pressure in all 4 wheels were 38Psi. I've just checked the placard in the door and it says Front 30Psi and Rear 26Psi. I was thinking 30Psi sounds a bit less and 26Psi doesn't sound like enough. So what tyre pressure u guys have in the Pirelli P6000 on ur ralliart magna?

30Psi and 26Psi are for standart 15 and 16" tyres that come with the executive/sports model. Even though i always pumped them up to about 33Psi. Feels much better. I now have 235/40 tyres on my 18" mags, and are at around 32Psi. I was told thats the norm. Maybe i will add a little more.

[THUGDOUT]
03-05-2005, 01:01 AM
i run my 235/45 r17's at 38PSI each

Rall!art
03-05-2005, 03:42 AM
At 38Psi, it does feel all the bumps and stuff on the road so i may drop the pressure a bit to a bit more comfortable

dark_magician
03-05-2005, 11:14 AM
38 all round although i changed to federal now 225/50/17 for my ralliart :doubt:

ReallyArt
05-05-2005, 10:23 AM
35 to 38 is about right.

If you go to a track day (circuit) put at least 40 in the front though or you'll bugger the shoulder on the tyre.


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Ristof
05-05-2005, 10:31 AM
Yeah I noticed mine as well seemed low so I bumped them up to 36 in each
That felt good in my TH Sports so I thought I would give it a try in this

Where do they get the pressures that go on the cards in the doors. I remember my TH had them said fairly low as well

Eddo
05-05-2005, 12:04 PM
I emailed Pirelli about my P6000's: they say that the placard pressures are for STANDARD wheel/tyre sizes only. If you put non-standard tyres/wheels on, they suggest you check with the tyre manufacturer for recommended pressures.

PS standard tyre pressures are intended to be a balance between comfortable ride and good handling, so might not suit everyones' driving style!!

Redav
05-05-2005, 12:22 PM
i run 38 all round in my 225/45 falkens
Hey, is that your right size? On 17's that sounds a bit crook :confused:

Rall!art
05-05-2005, 06:32 PM
I emailed Pirelli about my P6000's: they say that the placard pressures are for STANDARD wheel/tyre sizes only. If you put non-standard tyres/wheels on, they suggest you check with the tyre manufacturer for recommended pressures.

PS standard tyre pressures are intended to be a balance between comfortable ride and good handling, so might not suit everyones' driving style!!


So what pressure pressure did Pirelli recommend the P6000's to be?

Eddo
07-05-2005, 12:22 PM
As I haven't got round to changing the wheels yet, to stick to what it says on the placard. If you want to know what pressures you should run with different sizes, contact them.

rolliart
12-05-2005, 06:25 PM
30Psi and 26Psi are for standart 15 and 16" tyres that come with the executive/sports model. Even though i always pumped them up to about 33Psi. Feels much better. I now have 235/40 tyres on my 18" mags, and are at around 32Psi. I was told thats the norm. Maybe i will add a little more.

30 psi front and 26 psi rear is the specified pressure for the 225/50/17 Pirelli 6000, ralliart are factory fitted with. They might be for 15'' and 16' as well, don't know but this is the recomended pressure.

RINGA///ART
03-10-2005, 03:27 PM
rather than starting a new thread ill dig this one up... just checked the tyre pressures in my ralliart (with P6000 Perillis) i got on saturday and there was 46PSi in the rears and 48PSi in the fronts :nuts: and the front ones have shown a fair bit of tyre-wear.. could this be the cause?? Running 30 in all at the moment, might put 35 in them as that seems to be the going pressure according to this thread..

Ralliart 410
03-10-2005, 04:17 PM
rather than starting a new thread ill dig this one up... just checked the tyre pressures in my ralliart (with P6000 Perillis) i got on saturday and there was 46PSi in the rears and 48PSi in the fronts :nuts: and the front ones have shown a fair bit of tyre-wear.. could this be the cause?? Running 30 in all at the moment, might put 35 in them as that seems to be the going pressure according to this thread..

With that much pressure the centre of your tyres would likely be bulging creating huge uneven wear. Are you sure the air gauge you used is working correctly? Apart from that i would get a wheel alignment done, camber pins fitted to increase adjustment and a antilift/castor kit to improve drivability,

FWIW i now put 37 in the fronts and 36 on the rears. Much better...

RINGA///ART
03-10-2005, 06:44 PM
With that much pressure the centre of your tyres would likely be bulging creating huge uneven wear. Are you sure the air gauge you used is working correctly? Apart from that i would get a wheel alignment done, camber pins fitted to increase adjustment and a antilift/castor kit to improve drivability,

FWIW i now put 37 in the fronts and 36 on the rears. Much better...

thanks for that!! it was only the front passenger side that has a fair bit of wear.. yes they did have 48psi in them, checked them at 3 servos..

the tyre that has the wear has about 6mm of tread on the inside edge and the outter edge is very low, but the other front one is about the same as the back tyres, with very little wear... Checked the spare and it doesnt even have a Perelli P6000 on it, it has a dunlop tyre on it so i dunno what is with that.. running 36 all round seems to be pretty sweet now.. will get mitsu to check out the front passenger side tyre when i get a RWC done next week (for rego purposes)

Ralliart 410
03-10-2005, 07:14 PM
You need a wheel alignment...urgently.....

RINGA///ART
03-10-2005, 07:15 PM
You need a wheel alignment...urgently.....
well apparently it had one like a month ago.. maybe it has been rectified but the tyre is still ****ed

RINGA///ART
03-10-2005, 08:21 PM
anyone know how much the P6000's are that they use on the ralliarts? are they expensive?

Ralliart#0437
03-10-2005, 08:28 PM
When I bought my Ralliart magna, the tyre pressure in all 4 wheels were 38Psi. I've just checked the placard in the door and it says Front 30Psi and Rear 26Psi. I was thinking 30Psi sounds a bit less and 26Psi doesn't sound like enough. So what tyre pressure u guys have in the Pirelli P6000 on ur ralliart magna?

i got mine filled with nitrogen from bob jane t mart at factory recomended , tyre pressure has stayed the same for 6 months so far. only $26 for 4 tyres, dont need to check them at all , worth while to get done

Rall!art
04-10-2005, 05:21 AM
i got mine filled with nitrogen from bob jane t mart at factory recomended , tyre pressure has stayed the same for 6 months so far. only $26 for 4 tyres, dont need to check them at all , worth while to get done

cool!! does any tyre place do that?

RINGA///ART
04-10-2005, 07:08 AM
how much do pirelli P6000 retail for? anyone?

Atlas
04-10-2005, 07:28 AM
30 psi front and 26 psi rear is the specified pressure for the 225/50/17 Pirelli 6000, ralliart are factory fitted with. They might be for 15'' and 16' as well, don't know but this is the recomended pressure.

Yep. That's what they are " ment " to be but i run mine 4psi higher and feels far more natural. I got some on my 2nd gen 16"s not a ralliart but still should be the same pressure anyway.

Atlas
04-10-2005, 07:29 AM
how much do pirelli P6000 retail for? anyone?

$125ea for 220/40/16

RINGA///ART
04-10-2005, 07:30 AM
yeah i was after 225/50 ZR17 94W if it makes a difference, they are off a ralliart

Ralliart 410
04-10-2005, 09:11 AM
Don't buy the 225/50/17 Pirelli P6000 tyres. They are in the $400.00+ each mark! Change all 4 corners to some Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres. They are around $1100.00 for the set.

turbo_charade
04-10-2005, 09:17 AM
for racing the ideal temp is around 34-35 so when im at the track i use 31 static so once warm its around about spot on. tyres warm up and gain a few psi depending on how warm they get.

racing they obviously heat up more so for road use i have my rubber at 34psi, any higher and its going to wear the inside after a few spirited corners.

ive tested road and track temps aswell, 31 for the track leaves my tyres at even temp across the tread, same for 34 for road use.

i run 205/55r15 kuhmo's at the track and 185r55r14 durring the week

EDIT: nitrogen in tyres is silly, it still expands just not as much. and as long as there is no leaks air will stay in just as long.

k00k
04-10-2005, 11:47 AM
We've been having a similar discussion over at a Renault forum. General consensus was that for FWD cars, you should have the front tyres about 2psi higher than the rears. This helps to counteract any tendency to oversteer in FWD cars. Mine are at 40F and 38R all the time. Sure, I feel every bump out there, but the car is very alert and precise to drive. Also helps to reduce tyre wear. Much higher than those pressures and you'll probably start to wear the centres. Lower than 30 and you'll probably start to notice wear on the edges, and the car will no doubt feel a bit sluggish the lower you go. Just my opinion from what I've read, and in the end its up to each drivers personal tastes. A lot of other Clio owners run at about 38F and 36R.

RINGA///ART
04-10-2005, 05:37 PM
Don't buy the 225/50/17 Pirelli P6000 tyres. They are in the $400.00+ each mark! Change all 4 corners to some Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tyres. They are around $1100.00 for the set.

yeh cant afford a new full set yet, fixed it up today though

got the front two replaced with nexen's they arent too bad, $195 each.. bit of a whine when they had 36psi in them, looked on the side and the max said 44psi so i put 42 in them, much better.. $466 for the tyres, 4 wheel alignment and 4 better balances (little balance things on inside of rims)

seiryu said to use those goodyears, ill be using them next when i need a new full set and have a bit more cash saved up!!

ReallyArt
04-10-2005, 05:40 PM
We've been having a similar discussion over at a Renault forum. General consensus was that for FWD cars, you should have the front tyres about 2psi higher than the rears. This helps to counteract any tendency to oversteer in FWD cars. Mine are at 40F and 38R all the time. Sure, I feel every bump out there, but the car is very alert and precise to drive. Also helps to reduce tyre wear. Much higher than those pressures and you'll probably start to wear the centres. Lower than 30 and you'll probably start to notice wear on the edges, and the car will no doubt feel a bit sluggish the lower you go. Just my opinion from what I've read, and in the end its up to each drivers personal tastes. A lot of other Clio owners run at about 38F and 36R.


I'd agree with this. The pressures you choose to run are a compromise between comfort and performance. Generally speaking though, if you want better performance for a prolonged period of time you have to run higher pressures. Lower pressures (or those recommended by the manufacturer) will destroy your tyres if you regularly corner hard. I always run a couple of pounds more in the front.

Comfort be damned, give me performance every time!

So k00k, how do you find the Clio on the track? I reckon they'd be a bit of a weapon.


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k00k
04-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Comfort be damned, give me performance every time!

So k00k, how do you find the Clio on the track? I reckon they'd be a bit of a weapon.

I'm with you ReallyArt. If I wanted comfort I wouldn't have bought the Clio. I would have got a Statesman. :) As for the track, yep its great. Just did an advanced driving course a few weeks ago actually. It bucketed down all day. The grip level in it seems to know no limits. My courage ran out before the grip did. I drive it the same in the wet as I do in the dry. The Michelin Pilot Exalto's are really quite exceptional. Not looking forward to replacing them though, as they're about $500 a corner. Higher pressures will give them slightly longer life. I took a new WRX for a spin 2 months ago with a view to swap over. My verdict. I kept my RS Clio. Mines an F1 Team Edition. Only 30 in Aus. All numbered and signed by Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella. I reckon thats good for an extra 5kw... :D