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BEEFY_VRX
03-05-2005, 07:45 PM
I just found this supercharger kit fo the 3.5l pajero. They run the same motor as the magna do they not ? So could it be possible to run the supercharger kit on the magna? I think it would fit after looking @VRX II setup its the same sort of deal but it uses a eaton supercharger and its cheaper then the sprintex kit . Heres a link to some pics and some more info. I have email cappa about the posibilty of the kit fitting so ill let use know what they say.

diesel
03-05-2005, 08:00 PM
pretty sure they do a friend told me the other day so i think your in luck 80% sure :cool:

EZ Boy
03-05-2005, 08:29 PM
Heard it was discontinued.

Either way, a Roots type supercharger will peak out at like 10psi. A centrifugal can wind out to 20psi - it's essentially a belt driven turbo.

Each additional psi provides another 7% more oxygen for combustion. Ignition timing and inefficiencies asside, the maths looks like this:

Stock 155 / 317

7psi 230/470

10psi 263 / 538

14psi 307 / 627

18psi 350 / 716

20psi 372 / 760

I know torque is calculated as lb/ft and hp is derrived from that but just daydream at the theoretical numbers and imagine what internal work you're up for....

KING EGO
03-05-2005, 10:29 PM
Heres a link to some pics and some more info.

Am i blind.. I cant see any link...? :D



Stock 155 / 317

10psi 263 / 538


Thats me.. extra 100 kw is tops at only 10psi.. :D

Is this true..?????

Redav
04-05-2005, 07:17 AM
If it's the kit I'm thinking of they looked into it and without modifying the bonnet, it wouldn't fit the way they fit them.

Meh
04-05-2005, 07:29 AM
spoke with cappa about it and yes they give u the pajero kit for the magna,

however there is ALOT of custom work added to it aswell,
so $6500 for the kit and allow an extra $4000 or so just for the install

EZ Boy
04-05-2005, 10:42 AM
spoke with cappa about it and yes they give u the pajero kit for the magna,

however there is ALOT of custom work added to it aswell,
so $6500 for the kit and allow an extra $4000 or so just for the install

Therefore not money well spent considering the maximum capacity of the unit and the noise associated with Roots-type SC's.

Try the Vortech VS-2 SQ, also on the Capa site.

pomejo
04-05-2005, 12:53 PM
spoke with cappa about it and yes they give u the pajero kit for the magna,

however there is ALOT of custom work added to it aswell,
so $6500 for the kit and allow an extra $4000 or so just for the install
you can get a sc from them for $4000 then get some one to do all the stuff
thats what i did the cost was $8000 thats with a new ecu too.
and 10psi will bring the power up to about 250kw atw

Ice_Magik
04-05-2005, 01:01 PM
but how long has it taken you to do jo ?
or has it taken so long cos u need yor car ?

choonga
04-05-2005, 01:42 PM
i think its taken along time because he had to source engine parts from the US.. strengthened parts like pistons and cams and so on... he wants to run 20psi.. hehe

Ice_Magik
04-05-2005, 01:58 PM
aahhh ok, explains alot !

get this thing on the road then damit !

KING EGO
04-05-2005, 03:12 PM
10psi will bring the power up to about 250kw atw
Thats massive.. thats a 92% power increase.. Sif you arent gunna be breaking things left right and centre..

pomejo
04-05-2005, 03:51 PM
but how long has it taken you to do jo ?
or has it taken so long cos u need yor car ?
i took so long because the fly wheel toke 6 months to make and now i'm waiting for pistons
if you just want the sc it takes 3 weeks

TZABOY
04-05-2005, 03:54 PM
i took so long because the fly wheel toke 6 months to make and now i'm waiting for pistons
if you just want the sc it takes 3 weeks
good to see your going all out and doing it the best way possible.

pomejo
04-05-2005, 03:59 PM
Thats massive.. thats a 92% power increase.. Sif you arent gunna be breaking things left right and centre..
you can run 10 psi on stock motor but im going for 20psi and 360kw atw thats why i have done hte clutch,fly wheel,lsd,billet alloy pistons, cams,con rods,crank,springs,valves,o ringed head gasget,eg

BLKMAG
04-05-2005, 04:07 PM
you can run 10 psi on stock motor but im going for 20psi and 360kw atw thats why i have done hte clutch,fly wheel,lsd,billet alloy pistons, cams,con rods,crank,springs,valves,o ringed head gasget,eg

could of just said "catalogue" lol

good stuff mate, can't wait to see a vid of the beast!

Ice_Magik
04-05-2005, 04:17 PM
win the lotto jo ?

dam u,i want those mods :drool:


mind if i ask, what its all gonna cost if everything runs smooth to plan ?
final cost that it

pomejo
04-05-2005, 04:45 PM
win the lotto jo ?

dam u,i want those mods :drool:


mind if i ask, what its all gonna cost if everything runs smooth to plan ?
final cost that it
well i don't know yet it gets a bit scary sc=$8000 inter cooler= $1500 fly wheel=$1000 clutch=$980 lsd=$1700 the engine rebuild will be around the $7000 mark im hoping its not more then that any way

TecoDaN
04-05-2005, 05:20 PM
$8000 for the S/C ? What S/C are you using that costs so much????

KING EGO
04-05-2005, 05:32 PM
$8000 for the S/C ? What S/C are you using that costs so much????


Gold plated merc one... if you need to bag the price you cant afford.. so be off.. :D :D

pomejo
04-05-2005, 06:20 PM
$8000 for the S/C ? What S/C are you using that costs so much????
the sc its self cost$4000 the $8000 is for every thing you need to make it work like anew ecu,pipes, belts ,pulley's,a new in take plenum,cai,pod filter,eg
and the sprintex sc is i think some one said $7500 and the spintex one can't run 20psi throught it so i think $8000 drive a way for a sc that can run 20psi not bad

VR-X II
04-05-2005, 07:17 PM
Okies, my 2 cents, for what it's worth...I've got the ONLY Supercharged FWD Magna in the country atm, and it is absolutely AWESOME!

Stock, my '03 TJ VR-X has a 1/4 time of around mid-15 secs. Sprintex, the company who developed my twin-screw S/c reckon that time will come down by 1.5 to 2 seconds for the 1/4 mile, maybe more. Since a FWD Magna has never been done before, they aren't absolutely sure. BUT, that means (hopefully), mid to high 13s!

What their Chief Mechanic said on the test run after the install was that it was HUGELY more powerful than the TL AWD Magna show car they developed. In fact, when I planted it at the lights on Epping Rd next to a V8 Falcon (didn't even realise the Falcon wanted a go 'cos I was talking to the mechanic at the time the lights turned green and the Falcon got away first, going for it), I blew him off through 2nd gear and left him in the dust!

Now, considering that a 5.7 litre Commodore Clubsport does the 1/4 mile in the low 14s, how quick do you want your car to be, without having to rip the engine apart and totally re-build it with new pistons, camshaft, etc, etc?

I am totally rapt in my Sprintex S/c kit for $7.6K plus installation. It's a small price to pay to wipe the smirks off the faces of Holden, Falcon and just about every other driver of other makes of cars. After all, isn't that what owning the 'Underdog' is all about? Works for me! :thumbsup:

Btw, if anyone hasn't already, check out the 'Supercharged!' thread in the NSW section of the BB, especially the post that has the link to 'Revving' in it..sounds like a jet aircraft taking off!

VR-X II

BEEFY_VRX
04-05-2005, 07:23 PM
I want the same sort of power as you VRX-II if i had the awd model or a manual id want more but id be happy with 7-10psi.
As long as it does a 13 with just the bolt on supercharger imagine what its capable of when a full exaust and cai is done to it.

I to dont want to rip apart the motor cause @ the end of the day its a magna family sedan not a sports car.

VR-X II
04-05-2005, 07:39 PM
Forgot to say that the Sprintex S/c is set for 7psi (more than enough without putting too much strain and HEAT) on the engine, and comes with a custom CAI which mounts under the existing air induction set-up, so you don't even realise it's there.

VR-X II

BEEFY_VRX
04-05-2005, 07:52 PM
Does the supercharger have some sort of relise valve when it goes over 7psi e.g when driving on cold night?

EZ Boy
04-05-2005, 08:13 PM
It's a small price to pay to wipe the smirks off the faces of Holden, Falcon and just about every other driver of other makes of cars. After all, isn't that what owning the 'Underdog' is all about? Works for me! :thumbsup:


Amen. There's always a faster car on the streets somewhere, lurking, waiting to crush your ego. Just be happy with what you can afford and REALLY need to have, while searching for that car that gunna shut you down ;)

pomejo
04-05-2005, 08:19 PM
vr-x ll i think its great you got your baby sc and i like the sprintex sc for what it can do and its set up but when tecodan asked why mine cost so much i was useing sprintex as a example and when i started to get this work done sprintex had not made there set up yet i wish they had i would have started there and most likely would have stayed with it insted of of going nuts with the sc i have now

tommo
05-05-2005, 09:16 AM
Either way, a Roots type supercharger will peak out at like 10psi. A centrifugal can wind out to 20psi - it's essentially a belt driven turbo.

The problem with the centrifugal supercharger is that it combines the worst of both worlds. You get the parasitic drag of a supercharger and the boost doesn't come on until higher revs.

kodos
05-05-2005, 04:42 PM
Umm OK, Where does the lag come from?

BLKMAG
05-05-2005, 05:01 PM
takes a while for the belts to build up speed :shifty:

Meh
05-05-2005, 05:20 PM
Umm OK, Where does the lag come from?
yer its set up like a turbo so that it has to spool up but still gets there pretty quick

VR-X II
05-05-2005, 05:22 PM
The Sprintex Supercharger comes on at 1,500 rpm. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

BLKMAG
05-05-2005, 05:23 PM
oi, you got a vid of you driving the supercharged beast yet?

kodos
05-05-2005, 06:04 PM
Ok then. Still sounds strange if the compressor driven mechanically and not via exhaust gasses. A centrifugal compressor is very efficient :)

EZ Boy
05-05-2005, 06:55 PM
Ok then. Still sounds strange if the compressor driven mechanically and not via exhaust gasses. A centrifugal compressor is very efficient :)

Exactly. Combined with electronic boost control just like a turbo system, boost can be maintained quite easily once made.

No point having full boost at 2000rpm or you'd get 28L/100km!!!! Best to have it still building but strong. Everyone's expectations and driving styles vary, so the boost controller does this part of the management for you. Just tune the Haltech and EBC simultaneously, obviously.

A centrifugal with water/air intercooling with a PWR or similar kit would really get the game on.