Can Someone with a Manual TJ Most proberly a VRX tell what RPM the car is doing when it hits the speed limiter in 5th gear at 218Kmh... Does anybody know..???


Cheers
Jason :D

go out for a drive along the M3 and find out for yourself :doubt:

why do you need to know anyway, we all KNOW that the NT is the only place to be for long distance highspeed sprinting :P

so get your lazy ass centreside asap! :cool: lol

i just do.. im trying to get around this speed limiter thing.. :D

Can Someone with a Manual TJ Most proberly a VRX tell what RPM the car is doing when it hits the speed limiter in 5th gear at 218Kmh... Does anybody know..???


Cheers
Jason :D
Are you trying to tell us something without telling us Jason? :think:

yeah.......he has a death wish :doubt:

yeah.......he has a death wish :doubt:
Sounds like it but let's hope not!

i think someone had said somwhere around 4k? i can't remember

4k hey i though it was a bit more like nearly 5k..



Neil what are you saying...?? What have i done..?? :D

I may or i may have not gone 228km/h on the m4
and it may or may have not been in my auto TE
and it may of may have not been in fourth doing about 4500rpm
i might or might have not been keeping my eyes on the road ( a good idea at that speed )

I might be going and getting dinner now

Cheerio Lads

Luke ( Maybe )

well if i was to see wat my limiter was if i was to go that fast i would let u know
however.... i'll get back to u wen its not raining

will it be the same as though on the road as on a dyno ?

Sounds like it but let's hope not!

What, are you mad!!!

Go ahead Ego...I'll be behind u 110% of the way...for moral support :D

alright im trying to get around this speed limiter thing.. I disconected the speedo sensor and the box and presto, no speed limiter but no speedo too.. I got to 5500rpm in 5th and she wouldnt go any farster.. Def fastest she been.. :D

Thats why i wanna know what speed limiter rpm is so i can tell whats going on.. :D

will it be the same as though on the road as on a dyno ?

I highly doubt that due to our friends friction and air resistance...Damn physics does teach something

technically it will be slower as you have to factor in wind resistance and rolling resistance

not factors when on a dyno

is there an echo in here here here lol

Isnt your car chipped ego? Dont some of the piggybacks disable the speed limiter?Anyone? :)

Isnt your car chipped ego? Dont some of the piggybacks disable the speed limiter?Anyone? :)


Yeah thats what i was hoping.. The haltech computer works with the ecu not against it.. still has all normal procedures.. :D

Yeah thats what i was hoping.. The haltech computer works with the ecu not against it.. still has all normal procedures.. :D
As a guess, their has to be atleast 3 wires on the sensor, (i'm not sure even more if you have cruise), one would be signal to the speedo another may be the signal to the speed limiter, you need to find which one is which, unless the ecu goes off the speedo guage signal.

As a guess, their has to be atleast 3 wires on the sensor, (i'm not sure even more if you have cruise), one would be signal to the speedo another may be the signal to the speed limiter, you need to find which one is which, unless the ecu goes off the speedo guage signal.


what ive found is the speed sensor that goes to the ECU puts out varable voltage depending on speed - example, 3v @ 150km/hour 3.5v @ 180kw/hour, 3.9v @ 200km/hour etc etc..

i think the limiter activates when the voltage reads 5v.

so - you could put a capasitor(?) or if you have an aux on your piggback, feed your speed wire into your piggy back and specify that the voltage on that port is not to exceed say, 4.95v, the limiter may not kick in...

ive got a full aftermarket - so no problems with me.. lol - altho, when the needle leaves 240 and your doing around 5700rpm, and the full boost is still being jammed through the engine - its ****ing scary! :shock: (my own exerpience!)

i was told this by a guy who use to be on this forums.

untested and unknown on its adverse effects.

As a guess, their has to be atleast 3 wires on the sensor, (i'm not sure even more if you have cruise), one would be signal to the speedo another may be the signal to the speed limiter, you need to find which one is which, unless the ecu goes off the speedo guage signal.


Yes there is three wires.. and i do have cruise.. If i unplug sensor car runs rich too.. :D

what ive found is the speed sensor that goes to the ECU puts out varable voltage depending on speed - example, 3v @ 150km/hour 3.5v @ 180kw/hour, 3.9v @ 200km/hour etc etc..

i think the limiter activates when the voltage reads 5v.

so - you could put a capasitor(?) or if you have an aux on your piggback, feed your speed wire into your piggy back and specify that the voltage on that port is not to exceed say, 4.95v, the limiter may not kick in...

ive got a full aftermarket - so no problems with me.. lol - altho, when the needle leaves 240 and your doing around 5700rpm, and the full boost is still being jammed through the engine - its ****ing scary! :shock: (my own exerpience!)

i was told this by a guy who use to be on this forums.

untested and unknown on its adverse effects.
Thats how most sensors work either varying voltage or varying resistance, what i was wondering is, is that the only signal wire to the ecu for speedo/limiter, or is their sepperate signal wires,

What, are you mad!!!

Go ahead Ego...I'll be behind u 110% of the way...for moral support :D

make sure you film it too! would love to see a magna hitting the limiter in 5th!

make sure you film it too! would love to see a magna hitting the limiter in 5th!


Done it tomany times and do have it on video.. just not aloud to have it on amc... :D

The magna speed sensor is pulse (hall effect) driven from the diff housing.

The 3 wires are Power, signal and ground.

Booya, I think you may have seen an "average" voltage based on the frequency of the pulses. The sensor is definitely a pulse not voltage based.

Ego, get a haynes or gregories for your car. There will be 1 signal wire to the ECU from the speed sensor. Cut this near the ecu and test. You should still have speedo (as the sensor signal is split and drives both separately) ... but no speed cut.

Booya, I think you may have seen an "average" voltage based on the frequency of the pulses. The sensor is definitely a pulse not voltage based.


fine by me, that was the professional information passed on by "Dave the tool man weener" from that perth workshop lol

Done it tomany times and do have it on video.. just not aloud to have it on amc... :D
Don't want to seem like an old stickler, but just be careful mate... :silenced:

Don't want to seem like an old stickler, but just be careful mate... :silenced:

you mean you knew who i was talking about :shock:

i thought i hid the evidence knee deep! lol

you mean you knew who i was talking about :shock:

i thought i hid the evidence knee deep! lol
:slap: No you goose lol ...I don't have anything against him he he

What I meant was, if a certain someone (well anyone really) is trying to break the land speed record in their family sedan, to please be careful! i will shut up now...lol

:slap: No you goose lol ...I don't have anything against him he he

What I meant was, if a certain someone (well anyone really) is trying to break the land speed record in their family sedan, to please be careful! i will shut up now...lol


i am the goose!! - i miss read the quote - i thought you were quoting me!!! hahahah :bowrofl:

Anyone whos nearing the speed limiter in their magnas has got to have some big hairy balls :shock:

I have done 180 for a split second long time ago and that was more then enough to remind me I wasn't driving a sports car :redface:

Anyone whos nearing the speed limiter in their magnas has got to have some big hairy balls :shock:
My mrs is always on my case about shaving them... lol lol lol lol


But i still dont have an answer... What is RPM at speed limiter..??

My mrs is always on my case about shaving them... lol lol lol lol


But i still dont have an answer... What is RPM at speed limiter..??
i'll ask again, will it be the same on the dyno as if it was on the road ???
mine will be up there next week and could get it on the limiter if u like before its removed

But i still dont have an answer... What is RPM at speed limiter..??
Do a search.

Just after 7k in the manuals. Autos are lower. Most manuals top out around 220ish and autos 200ish. If 5500 is the highest rpm in 5th you can reach then you've reached the limit of your engines power.

Do a search.

Just after 7k in the manuals. Autos are lower. Most manuals top out around 220ish and autos 200ish. If 5500 is the highest rpm in 5th you can reach then you've reached the limit of your engines power.

But the fuel cut at 6800.. Speed limited to 215 on the manuals so u will never hit make revs.. what to know what the 3 wires do in the back of the sensor.. :D


Blake i would assume so as at the end of the day ur car can only go so fast.. it just wont have the drag of wind speed etc etc.. :D

But the fuel cut at 6800.. Speed limited to 215 on the manuals so u will never hit make revs.. what to know what the 3 wires do in the back of the sensor.. :D


Blake i would assume so as at the end of the day ur car can only go so fast.. it just wont have the drag of wind speed etc etc.. :D

surly the magna can get over 200Km easy, iv had my verada up to 200 and it felt easy as felt like i could get it to 220 easy, might try that one day in controlled conditions though as iv been in my old mans wrx at 230 and damn those trees fly by fast

Oh yeah, cause the Ralliart is faster hey.

I remember reading somewhere an unrestricted 3.5 will run to about 245ish kph before it can't go no mo :D

I remember reading somewhere an unrestricted 3.5 will run to about 245ish kph before it can't go no mo :D
hmmm id like to see that

I remember reading somewhere an unrestricted 3.5 will run to about 245ish kph before it can't go no mo :D


Would make sense..

Ralliart is Speed limited to 240 i thing.. Tzaboy will have an answer..Jase its 240 isnt it..??


The problem is that i dont know how to get around the speed limiter.. so far all i can do is disconect the speed sensor which then you loose the speedo so who knows.. Which then brings me back to me original question..What is rpm in 5th when u hit speed limiter..??

I think its around 4800-5000rpm but not sure.. without the speed sensor hooked up i got 5500rpm in top gear and that was damn quicker than ive been before but i dont what it was as i had no speedo.. it only stopped at 5500 as thats max power and she couldnt push any harder.. had more road left.... :D

200km/h in TF Sports was around 5k off memory... Not game to try it again lol

sandown 0-maxx been done in my car driver(unknown) engine died, never to be done in an auto only if u like ur car to smell like burning oil...

5000+ rpm luky for shannons insurance and $1000 later

speed kills so dose getting married so what the heck......

200km/h??? i was at about 5000rpm in in 4th doing 195 on my extended driveway, lowering definately has an effect on the high speed stability to, this didnt feel that fast in my car but 180 in my sisters ks did.

hmmm id like to see that

It was in one of my wheels or motor mags from a while back before the TJ came out. I'll see if I can find it after work if I can be stuffed :)

Would make sense..

Ralliart is Speed limited to 240 i thing.. Tzaboy will have an answer..Jase its 240 isnt it..??




higher than that... ive had mine off the clock, didnt even know i had a limiter till the other day, ive had it near H per hour (look at your speedo)

no im not talkin sh!t before anyone says it... ive got witnesses...

you'll find that altho 200km/hour seems "easy" the torque in a stock engine drops off considerable...

no torque = no pulling power...

also gotta factor wind resistance... altho the magna has a drag co. of only .28, lack of torque is the killer..

hence like mine, were the engine is still pushing the car, its not running out of rpm, and the torque is still sufficient in the top end, it will keep pulling until either i run out of gearing, or the latter - cant push the car against the wall of air anymore.

i think you'll find 200km/hour the magna is more then capable, 220 is at the limit of rpm.

i think you'll find 200km/hour the magna is more then capable, 220 is at the limit of rpm.

is than in the three litres only i guess...

It was in one of my wheels or motor mags from a while back before the TJ came out. I'll see if I can find it after work if I can be stuffed :)
oh not sayin i dont beleive,
id like to see it happen :D

oh not sayin i dont beleive,
id like to see it happen :D

did you mean me then dude? bwahahaha...

Yeah, next time im in brisbane ill take you for a ride lol

did you mean me then dude? bwahahaha...

Yeah, next time im in brisbane ill take you for a ride lol
nope i didnt

im from gold coast
and by the time yur here u will be begging to come for a ride in my car hahaha

nope i didnt

im from gold coast
and by the time yur here u will be begging to come for a ride in my car hahaha


of course... especially if you got the big farq turbo in by then lol

of course... especially if you got the big farq turbo in by then lol

if all goes to plan 2 months :shock:

wickid, will have to go out in the sunshine though wont i...

damn this pale blue SA skin bwahahaha lol

My mrs is always on my case about shaving them... lol lol lol lol


Leave her outta this.. n i believe she was hassling u about ur back not ur balls :P

Leave her outta this.. n i believe she was hassling u about ur back not ur balls :P
hahahaha :owned:

eeew hairy ego... BWAHAHAHAHA lol :owned:

Leave her outta this.. n i believe she was hassling u about ur back not ur balls :P


Hey my back and balls are ment to have hair but i do believe that because you claim to be female you are in trouble as ur back and balls are hairyer than mine.. lol lol


Dont make me post pic for all to see.. lol

Hey my back and balls are ment to have hair but i do believe that because you claim to be female you are in trouble as ur back and balls are hairyer than mine.. lol lol


Dont make me post pic for all to see.. lol
do it
and im sure u will be reaching yur rev limiter in no time hahaha

Hey my back and balls are ment to have hair but i do believe that because you claim to be female you are in trouble as ur back and balls are hairyer than mine.. lol lol


Dont make me post pic for all to see.. lol

Pretty lame comeback.. so yeh.. Show me pics?

but meh.. its only u that has to put up with it :P

Where's that spew bucket again :sick:

How did this thread go from stupid ass speeding to hairy body parts?... someone get it back on track...pleeeeaaseeee!

Pretty lame comeback.. so yeh.. Show me pics?

but meh.. its only u that has to put up with it :P

Well you should have the pics as i used you camera... Just sensor it for all the kiddies..

P.S. You will need BIG blurry spots too... lol lol lol lol

Well you should have the pics as i used you camera... Just sensor it for all the kiddies..

P.S. You will need BIG blurry spots too... lol lol lol lol

how about one big blurry sport on the ego?

how about one big blurry sport on the ego?


Did you mean spot...?? lol

Well you should have the pics as i used you camera... Just sensor it for all the kiddies..

P.S. You will need BIG blurry spots too... lol lol lol lol

take the pics out of the sunroof while in 5th at 5000rpm.. they will sure to be blurry then.. and yeh.. what speed will u been doing at that time ??

(lame attempt at getting back on topic)

P.S. Neil stop lurking

take the pics out of the sunroof while in 5th at 5000rpm.. they will sure to be blurry then.. and yeh.. what speed will u been doing at that time ??

(lame attempt at getting back on topic)


Who wants to see pics of you anyway..

I just have too.. lol


So does anyone know what the three wires on the back of the speed sensor do or are we just gunna guess.. someone must know the answer.. :P

Who wants to see pics of you anyway..

I just have too.. lol


So does anyone know what the three wires on the back of the speed sensor do or are we just gunna guess.. someone must know the answer.. :P
i'll take a geuss
chop one at a time till u get the right one haha

i'll take a geuss
chop one at a time till u get the right one haha

Thought about that already..

Thought about that already..
less thinkin and more fiddling

less thinkin and more fiddling


Im always fiddling just ask the mrs.. Its always getting me in trouble.. lol

The magna speed sensor is pulse (hall effect) driven from the diff housing.

The 3 wires are Power, signal and ground.

Ego, get a haynes or gregories for your car. There will be 1 signal wire to the ECU from the speed sensor. Cut this near the ecu and test. You should still have speedo (as the sensor signal is split and drives both separately) ... but no speed cut.
For petesake ... I answered it back on page 3 :)

I didn't want to tell EGO exactly which wire to cut ... as a little bit of research with a haynes/gregories and it would be easy to figure out, without me being responsible for any "possible" damage caused ;)

Ok did the experiment last nite.. :D :D :D

In 5th gear 200 is 5000rpm & 218(limiter) is 5300rpm...


Well i guess 5500 is past the limiter as it didnt engage at 5300rpm... :D

This may not be on topic but at 5900rpm ur doing 235kph in a TH manual, should help u figure out what speed ur doing roughly

This may not be on topic but at 5900rpm ur doing 235kph in a TH manual, should help u figure out what speed ur doing roughly

Got to be about the same on these TJ`s.. Bloody limiters.. I will get round it.. :D

Why do you need to get around the limiter anyway? Is there something that a speed limiter does that I don't know (as in detrimental to power at lower speeds). Surely you couldn't cruise around at this speed in a Magna for extended periods of time anyway?

218km/h @ 5200rpm in 5th