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jarod
08-05-2005, 02:25 PM
ok guys i just did my CAI on the weekend. its similar to TH SMOKERS kit but i have just put my pod in a different place.

before hooking up the new CAI i took a temp reading of the old set up(just a pod in the normal position) and then with new setup


THE readings were very suprising.i think you will all agree


i took the temps with a temp quage i use for my work(air con) amd it stays permanently fixed to my car now so i can monitor the temps.

temps were taken just before the throttle body(TB) on the inside of the pipework



OLD SETUP READINGS(*=degrees)
OUTSIDE TEMP:18*
TEMP of air AT TB:between 47*-70* depending on if i was movin or stationary

AFTER CAI READINGS
OUTSIDE TEMP:19*
TEMP of air AT TB:between 27*-35* depending on if i was movin or stationary

HyperTF
08-05-2005, 02:46 PM
Hey mate... thanks for that...

I would really be interested too at the temp difference when you bypass the coolant away from the TB as I, and a few others have done... I swear my TB is cooler to touch now than it used to be... no surprise really, considering the coolant water can be 100+ degrees during transfer.

KING EGO
08-05-2005, 02:48 PM
Hey mate... thanks for that...

I would really be interested too at the temp difference when you bypass the coolant away from the TB as I, and a few others have done... I swear my TB is cooler to touch now than it used to be... no surprise really, considering the coolant water can be 100+ degrees during transfer.

So how do u do this bypass....??
easy or hard..?

HyperTF
08-05-2005, 02:58 PM
So how do u do this bypass....??
easy or hard..?
Easy... get a piece of heater hose piping (i used one off a Laser which worked really well), take off the inlet and outlet pipes to the TB and replace with one longer pipe and don't even hook up through the TB, just go around it. But remember, bypass don't block or plug!

Another mod you do at your own risk... not saying there is any... some say that having the water hooked up aids the warm up of the TB from cold start, but it is the warming up of the engine that warms the radiator fluid anyway!... another words it will warm by itself... I don't see a great point of it being there other than to at least regulate temperature... but I think more so it heats it up hotter than it needs to be ;)

Have a read of this thread
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15679

Jake
08-05-2005, 03:14 PM
Easy... get a piece of heater hose piping (i used one off a Laser which worked really well), take off the inlet and outlet pipes to the TB and replace with one longer pipe and don't even hook up through the TB, just go around it. But remember, bypass don't block or plug!

Another mod you do at your own risk... not saying there is any... some say that having the water hooked up aids the warm up of the TB from cold start, but it is the warming up of the engine that warms the radiator fluid anyway!... another words it will warm by itself... I don't see a great point of it being there other than to at least regulate temperature... but I think more so it heats it up hotter than it needs to be ;)

Have a read of this thread
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15679
I can't see an advantage to that as a colder intake charge is better for power

HyperTF
08-05-2005, 03:17 PM
I can't see an advantage to that as a colder intake charge is better for power
I didn't say instead of... I meant as well as... I don't get your point.

Jake
08-05-2005, 03:26 PM
I didn't say instead of... I meant as well as... I don't get your point.
I think i read it wrong, i thought in the second paragraph you were talking about putting another coolant line to the throttle body or something, but i read it wrong, was the second paragraph just a warning ?

HyperTF
08-05-2005, 03:37 PM
I think i read it wrong, i thought in the second paragraph you were talking about putting another coolant line to the throttle body or something, but i read it wrong, was the second paragraph just a warning ?
Well sort of a casual caution and a bit of my reasoning... as it deviates from the standard config of the TB from stock... so you do so at your own risk I guess... I just don't want to say... yeah do it! and something goes wrong (not saying it will here).
It is actually changing the path of coolant away from the TB, nothing extra.

KING EGO
08-05-2005, 03:38 PM
So which of the hoses are you ment to bypas.. anyone got pics..??? :D

Jake
08-05-2005, 03:45 PM
Well sort of a casual caution and a bit of my reasoning... as it deviates from the standard config of the TB from stock... so you do so at your own risk I guess... I just don't want to say... yeah do it! and something goes wrong (not saying it will here).
It is actually changing the path of coolant away from the TB, nothing extra.
Cool, after i read it a few more times, i realized what you meant, sorry for the misunderstanding

HyperTF
08-05-2005, 03:47 PM
No problemo... no dramas :D

Matt
08-05-2005, 08:10 PM
The coolant through the throttle body actually controls the "fast air valve" this helps the ISC to control your idle speed. But the ISC should do fine on its own.

My ISC is stuffed and since doing the bypass my idle speed jumped up 300rpm .....just an indiaction of how much more air is actually getting in due to the lower tempratures. But on cold mornings (once the cars warmed up) it will idle at around 1500-1600....so i've since got rid of the bypass till i get another ISC. Its the only way of keepin my idle down as the idle screw is already all the way in.

Phonic
09-05-2005, 04:40 PM
To avoid starting another thread here is my experience with CAI:

My setup compromises of 90 mm piping crafted to channel colder air from under the front bumper. It is slightly recessed behind the lowest part of the bumper so very little protrudes underneath It sits higher than both the tow restraints and oil sump). The car defiantly feels better than before (allot better than stock on cold nights), especially on these cold Melbourne nights we have been getting lately.

Before I began the CAI install, I took the car for a 30min drive with above average enthusiasm. After getting home the plenum would be hot to the touch, to the point you could risk burning yourself if in contact with the intake manifold long enough.
But after I fitted the CAI and took the car through its paces the same night, the plenum was only warm on the hand and by no means hot.

I touched the rest of the intake piping to see how it was going. The newly added intake piping was warm (most likely due to it being near the radiator and exhaust manifold) but the rest of the intake from after the filter was cool. All in all a very happy $40 spent, which includes the price of the heat gun I bought. :P

Might add a heat sheild on the front part of the 90mm PVC pipe to reduce heat soak from radiator, but I am questioning if the benifit is worth the effort???

TheDifference
09-05-2005, 04:56 PM
Easy... get a piece of heater hose piping (i used one off a Laser which worked really well), take off the inlet and outlet pipes to the TB and replace with one longer pipe and don't even hook up through the TB, just go around it. But remember, bypass don't block or plug!

Another mod you do at your own risk... not saying there is any... some say that having the water hooked up aids the warm up of the TB from cold start, but it is the warming up of the engine that warms the radiator fluid anyway!... another words it will warm by itself... I don't see a great point of it being there other than to at least regulate temperature... but I think more so it heats it up hotter than it needs to be ;)

Have a read of this thread
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15679

you free this saturday neil? guess what you're helping me with......... :D

HyperTF
09-05-2005, 05:32 PM
you free this saturday neil? guess what you're helping me with......... :D
At this stage you're on, as long as you get the pipe... but seriously it is quite easy... I will try to take a photo tomorrow if I get a chance and show you.

TheDifference
09-05-2005, 06:47 PM
At this stage you're on, as long as you get the pipe... but seriously it is quite easy... I will try to take a photo tomorrow if I get a chance and show you.

hmmm, tell me about this, said pipe......

HyperTF
09-05-2005, 06:53 PM
hmmm, tell me about this, said pipe......
did you check out the said link? lol

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=212618&postcount=11

This was a link to my related post... It worked for me, but seriously you can pick up a length of thin heater hose from Autobarn... I will try to get more details during the week.

Sharkie
09-05-2005, 07:08 PM
well i just finish my cai mod where i combined 90mm hose to the stock intake i have notiuce i have a bit more grunt than before. I just had the 90mm hose on there was a difference with that in the top end buut now after I have joined them both together i have notice a bit more difference.

here are pics to show the mod

97_verada
10-05-2005, 07:22 AM
well i just finish my cai mod where i combined 90mm hose to the stock intake i have notiuce i have a bit more grunt than before. I just had the 90mm hose on there was a difference with that in the top end buut now after I have joined them both together i have notice a bit more difference.

here are pics to show the mod

is that duct tape i see?

M4DDOG
10-05-2005, 07:32 AM
is that duct tape i see?
Nothing wrong with abit of duct tape :bowrofl: .

Also neil if you're up for it i'd come along and you can do my throttle body as well :D. That's if you have time, now that you've had the accident :(.

Sharkie
10-05-2005, 09:02 AM
is that duct tape i see?
thats just there to hold it while the silcon sets properly

stealthnitro
10-05-2005, 09:06 AM
How about a bonnet scoop? Can that be used to get cold air (what ya do if it rains!)

jarod
11-05-2005, 06:10 PM
yeah the CAI is definately worth it.i will post pics but i cant take them down into a size that this stupid site likes?can i e-mail them to some1 so they can shrink them i suck at computer stuff?

i used PVC pipe,Stainless steel for my pipe work.the pvc is all insulated then wraped in black duct tape.i only used stainless inside the engine bay cos it looks nicer(wankfactor!!!)but when im serious at the drags i will put insulated pvc in its place..(so i will probably get the air in there colder still).


**for any1 in brisbane i can get you the insulation for free and the duct tape as well(not much but better than paying for it),i also have a lenght of 3'' stainless left over that is 300mm long that you might be able to use for the CAI,its free also if you want it..

jared

Zaphod
11-05-2005, 06:21 PM
yeah the CAI is definately worth it.i will post pics but i cant take them down into a size that this stupid site likes?can i e-mail them to some1 so they can shrink them i suck at computer stuff?

If you want you can upload them to http://curreytech.net/gallery/amc_public - user/pass is amc/amc

jarod
11-05-2005, 06:38 PM
ok i will post pis of the cai when im on next the camera is in the car which dad has atm.
ohh and i post pics of the car stero to

vodkaguy
13-05-2005, 09:20 AM
i set up a temp. cai running 80mm piping(i think) using standard ir box to see if there was any difference before setting up something proper. yay 4 duct tape the engine runs 1 bar cooler no matter and has ben that way since i put it in, been long drives armadale to dianella etc and its not budged even hammering it along to stay ahead of crazy african man in a camry :nuts: and it didnt go back to what it was before. also my fan hasnt come on once to help cool it at lights etc as it used to

so its def gonna be permanent attachment for me

HENDO TJ02
14-05-2005, 02:50 PM
finally found something perfect that fits into my airbox and then angles down and into a circle. the peice of pipe that runs from the throttle body to the air box(advantages of workin at mitsu as we had a couple layin round in the workshop as they are discarded when gas is fitted). all you need to do is plug up the two holes, clamp your pipe(what ever you want to use) on the end.

HyperTF
14-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Nice work Hendo! I actually bought parts to build my custom box today but that is for the pod... on closer inspection, this is going to be a bugger to do after all...