Hi People Im new to this forum and have one burning question
see i bloody love the magnas etc etc, but there slow (im on my "L"s i get my "P"s next year), and was looking at aftermarket air filters, exhausts, ECU's , turbos and so on and so forth. the cost of this would be quite a bit. So i thought, well, why cant it be converted to RWD, and slap in a nice V8? A new 351 Chev costs around about $3000, which aint bad, plus everything else. you people know a hell of lot more about these cars then i do, so is it humanly possible to do this, or would it be a complete waste of time. i know Darrel Mcbeths Prize winning 2 door magna has this, but then again i dont think he had much of a budget. Any feedback to this would be appreciated so much.
Regards Paul

anything is possible at a price, like u said look at the mcbeth magna.
magna's arent slow believe me. u say a chev engine is like $3,000? well add like 10-15 grand to convert your magna to RWD and maybe it might work, or your could spend 8-10 grand and put a TT engine in your car (i assume you own a 2nd gen cause this is where u posted)

never ever considered this modification, but if ur heart is set on it make sure you do the reasearch on it

To be honest...complete waste of time and money....But hey if you want to spend the money you can make anything fit and work.

I would really like to see how you'll fit a 351 block into the bonnet!

Daryl Mcbeth's Magna is technically a a shell built on top of a chassis, that is how he could fit a V8 in there, there is no firewall or wheel arches in the way of the engine.

To be honest...complete waste of time and money....But hey if you want to spend the money you can make anything fit and work.

i agree with kb, its not really worth it, i would stick to the v6 conversion i wanna do in the not-so-near future. im also on my L's and goin to get my P's next year and im not worried about power as such yet (well i did say i wanna do a v6 conversion)

holy crap they were quick replys. 10 - 15K you reckon?, ****, well i think for now ill just save for a nice set of 18"s and a stereo. I think the V8 dream will have to wait till im like 25...or whenever i get a spare 10K. Does anyone know here, (i havent had time to read through the whole forum) what the current quickest quarter mile is for a 2nd gen magna, and what mods its had done to it, that'd be an interesting fact. Also, i say the magna i slow (regretably), cause when i drive it, the only time i get kick out of it is when i either. A) Slam the foot down from a standing start, or B), pedal to the floor at 60km/h, other than that it has no Gusto, comapred to our other car, an EL station wagon, that thing flys

I dunno if mine is the quickest 2nd gen or not, but I ran a 14.806@153km/h first run ever at a drag strip. So I've still got to perfect the launch, I reckon it's capable of 14.5 but will have to get good launches.

Mods:

DOHC 24v 6G72 3.0l V6 swap
Custom extractors
2.5" mandrel bent cat back exhaust
Lukey LR2779

Still running factory computer.

Other mods are:
Lowered 2"
Dobinson springs
KYB twin tube shocks
Whiteline strut brace
Rear sway bar.

I still have the stock 205/65/R15 alloys and I use Pirelli P6000 rubber.

Oh and it's a 5 speed manual

****e thats not bad considering you havent done overly alot to the engine, whats the difference between this new engine you put in and the old one which is in the car (i dont know what the standard engine is besides its a 3.0L V6). And Also LOl what cars have you "draged" at the lights and beaten lolz love seeing magnas win

LOLz*

Hi People Im new to this forum and have one burning question
see i bloody love the magnas etc etc, but there slow (im on my "L"s i get my "P"s next year), and was looking at aftermarket air filters, exhausts, ECU's , turbos and so on and so forth. the cost of this would be quite a bit. So i thought, well, why cant it be converted to RWD, and slap in a nice V8? A new 351 Chev costs around about $3000, which aint bad, plus everything else. you people know a hell of lot more about these cars then i do, so is it humanly possible to do this, or would it be a complete waste of time. i know Darrel Mcbeths Prize winning 2 door magna has this, but then again i dont think he had much of a budget. Any feedback to this would be appreciated so much.
Regards Paul

Put in a Chev or any other kinda engine into a magna, and it ain't a magna anymore.

True True, but with a supercharger (dont knwo about legality in VIC) and some minor work THAT THING WOULD FRIGEN FLYYYYYYYY, and hey, still a magna on the outside, and you dont have to advertise it on the car, just murder commodores at the lights :) all good (besides finding a spare 20K for it which as i a 16 year old DOES NOT HAVE)

****e thats not bad considering you havent done overly alot to the engine, whats the difference between this new engine you put in and the old one which is in the car (i dont know what the standard engine is besides its a 3.0L V6). And Also LOl what cars have you "draged" at the lights and beaten lolz love seeing magnas win

Cheers man :D

The engine is still stock, only the extractors. And if you saw the stock headers you'd see why I said "There's no way those *** things are staying on" lol

The stock motor is a SOHC 12v, this one is a DOHC 24v. Thats about all the difference is really...the heads flow soooooooooo much better...so much so that you dont even consider porting and polishing as you dont get any gains.

ummm as far as cars...it kills 5l commos. Not sure what else...coz I dont really engage in traffic light GP that much lol Or I'm never sure if they're trying hahaha

Hi People Im new to this forum and have one burning question
see i bloody love the magnas etc etc, but there slow (im on my "L"s i get my "P"s next year), and was looking at aftermarket air filters, exhausts, ECU's , turbos and so on and so forth. the cost of this would be quite a bit. So i thought, well, why cant it be converted to RWD, and slap in a nice V8? A new 351 Chev costs around about $3000, which aint bad, plus everything else. you people know a hell of lot more about these cars then i do, so is it humanly possible to do this, or would it be a complete waste of time. i know Darrel Mcbeths Prize winning 2 door magna has this, but then again i dont think he had much of a budget. Any feedback to this would be appreciated so much.
Regards Paul

might aswell shove an rb26 in there instead.

A new 351 Chev costs around about $3000...

I know I'm being picky but it would be a FORD 351 or a Chev 350.

I know I'm being picky but it would be a FORD 351 or a Chev 350.

thats what i was thinkin lol doesn't matter we get the idea.............don't do it,absolute waste of money

Cheers man :D

The engine is still stock, only the extractors. And if you saw the stock headers you'd see why I said "There's no way those *** things are staying on" lol

The stock motor is a SOHC 12v, this one is a DOHC 24v. Thats about all the difference is really...the heads flow soooooooooo much better...so much so that you dont even consider porting and polishing as you dont get any gains.

ummm as far as cars...it kills 5l commos. Not sure what else...coz I dont really engage in traffic light GP that much lol Or I'm never sure if they're trying hahaha
and a genIII vx SS to 100!

sorry yeah i think it was a chev 351 (smartasses) but thanks for pointing that out anyway. as long as it will beat a 5L commodore, il be happy. :P. another question. are most of you guys mechanics or something cause you know your stuff real well

and a genIII vx SS to 100!

Oh yeah I forgot about that...I was soooooooo stoked about that...Blake was in shock too!!

TuffTR, I'm by no means a mechanic at all lol I just know stuff haha

sorry yeah i think it was a chev 351 (smartasses) but thanks for pointing that out anyway. as long as it will beat a 5L commodore, il be happy. :P. another question. are most of you guys mechanics or something cause you know your stuff real well

lol sorry dude its a cleavland 351 or 350 chev.....

if you wanna beat 5 ltr commodores, put the same motor as KB in your car or sell it and buy a 3rd gen,put a couple of cheap bits on it and you'll give the 5ltr guys a good scare

Oh yeah I forgot about that...I was soooooooo stoked about that...Blake was in shock too!!

TuffTR, I'm by no means a mechanic at all lol I just know stuff haha

do these guys just look at your car thinkin WTF?!?!?! lol bloody sleeper. start tellin them its stock, may single handedly change magna's reputation :bowrofl:

Nah i like the 2nd gen alot more then the 3rd, the motor in my car (its my parents but its mine soon shhh) has done like 210K on it, whats the cheapest way of getting power from an engine that old, or, should i re-condition it, or slap in a new motor (not a V8 LOL but something similar) i was thinking the mandotory K+N Filter and 2 1/2" (or 3 1/2" im not sure) system? worth it ya reckon'?

do these guys just look at your car thinkin WTF?!?!?! lol bloody sleeper. start tellin them its stock, may single handedly change magna's reputation :bowrofl:

They must do!

I've never had the chance to talk to anyone who's raced me afterwards...they seem to just avoid me lol

if you wanna keep it and you've got about $1000 go the usual K&N filter, CAI, extractors,2.25in system with hiflow rear muffler....

sorry for asking stupid questions, im learning this stuff in school soon but i wanna know now, First whats CAI stand for, and with all that done, the Tr 3.0L has 124Kw im pretty sure at the flywheel, how much you reckon it would increse it by?

Nah i like the 2nd gen alot more then the 3rd, the motor in my car (its my parents but its mine soon shhh) has done like 210K on it, whats the cheapest way of getting power from an engine that old, or, should i re-condition it, or slap in a new motor (not a V8 LOL but something similar) i was thinking the mandotory K+N Filter and 2 1/2" (or 3 1/2" im not sure) system? worth it ya reckon'?

well my car we replaced the engine with another 4cyl, and after 60,000 kms the timing chain is starting to rattle again i thinks... wat i also think is that we (parents and bro and me) should've gone the extra mile and got the v6 engine instead :doubt:

the original engine is in another 2nd gen (a mates car) which was reconditioned and workin fine till his dad almost burnt out the engine lol... that engine did approx 190,000kms

oh and if its the 4cyl i reccomend gettin the piping at 2 1/4inches, ive got 2 1/2inches on my car and i lost low down torque/power (car stand-still starts are crap, but once above 3000rpm it flies reasonably)

EDIT: CAI stands for Cold Air Intake, or Cold Air Induction (whichever ppl prefer)

nah we got the V6 engine is in reasonable state, but as our mechanic said, it was "wearing". I mean compared to our ford EL station wagon with 4.0L staright 6 and 154Kw, the Tr is **** slow, i mean it serioulsy needs power, when i put the foot down i want it to at least "kick in", so what diameter would you recommend for a V6?

manual or auto?

both auto bro

nah we got the V6 engine is in reasonable state, but as our mechanic said, it was "wearing". I mean compared to our ford EL station wagon with 4.0L staright 6 and 154Kw, the Tr is **** slow, i mean it serioulsy needs power, when i put the foot down i want it to at least "kick in", so what diameter would you recommend for a V6?

ok that changes a bit... well yea wat BLKMAG said, manual or auto? im assuming its auto yes?

well id get the whole exhaust done from extractors to tip, and ok maybe 2.5inches or 3.0inch piping straight thru, from the cat... im not exactly a pro at these u should more face to KB or ppl who has the v6 engine sorry to be not much help

ok no probs, so all that as said before with the CAI and pod filter should cost around 1K yeah, thats not bad if it is, ill spend another 600 on stereo, and get some nice 18"s. im trying to get the folks to get new suspension and tint. were still using the original suspension, you should see the thing round a corner, feels like one side is going to lift up and throw the car over there that soft

hate to say this but it would be cheaper to buy a falcadore and then bolt on magna body panels
it would be cheaper 2

ok by falcodore, which car are you reffering to, also, so your saying, IN REALITY, i could go out and buy a VN or something, and just slap on the body of a magna? you really think that would work

ok no probs, so all that as said before with the CAI and pod filter should cost around 1K yeah, thats not bad if it is, ill spend another 600 on stereo, and get some nice 18"s. im trying to get the folks to get new suspension and tint. were still using the original suspension, you should see the thing round a corner, feels like one side is going to lift up and throw the car over there that soft

hopefully be less than $1k for CAI :shock:
wat im hopefully doin is from the T/B (throttle body/ butterfly valve which ppl prefer again) using a flexible pipe fown to the front of the car, now TR-ENVY told me that this would be quite difficult coz of how the engine is positioned... so i'll be attempting this wen i get myself an air pod. the CAI could be home made coz all it is is plugging in pipes here and there

LOLZ that does sound homemade, so wheres the intake on a normal TR positioned?, mightaswell get a fully sick intercooler bro

hehehe i was thinking of hookin a 'cooler into her but not worth it, well once u open the bonnet u will see a big black box on the left (facing the engine- so this means on the drivers side) of the engine bay, that is where the stock air filter is placed, on both the 4 and the 6 cyl engines of the 2nd gens.. theres a big black pipe from the air box to the engine, now where the pipe finishes on the engine is where the T/B is. my pipe is going from there and winding itself to the front centre behind the bumper so that its hidden from view. now my front bar is a completely different bumper towards all the other TR/TS bumpers coz its a diamante (jp) bar, so theres a split in the centre where the plates sit, thats where my air pod is gonna sit with the pipe hooked to it going to my T/B

w0w man thats alot of fiddling around, gee if only it was a N/S configuration things would be a whole lot easier. whered u get a new front bumper from anyways?

lol mate mine is N/A tuned, im not gonna shift in a turbo, wen im older and i decide to keep the 4cyl in the car its gonna be S/C :D

and my brother bought the bar bout a year ago wen he had the car... cant remember where he bought it but i think it was Mikey from the forums who told him about it.

by N/S i mean north south configuration, you know, how then it would be alot easier to do this stuff, and what do you mean by S/C (sorry im a noob but i gotta start somewhere)

lol no worries dude, im still sorta a noob as well, S/C is supercharger, and sorry man i thought u ment to say N/A (natural aspirated) instead...

the 3rd gens are actually easier to install a CAI, i think the 2nd gen is east-west, but the 3rd gens are west-east, so the air box is on the left, which means more space (in a way) and less pipe to use lol

s/c = supercharged ;) t/c = turbocharged

fair enough mate fair enough, well you know a fair bit more about these cars then i do so tell me as much as you can, when i wash the "beast" ill take some pics of it and post it up for all 2 c :P, anyway im off to bed as i got school tomorrow and if i dont get off the comp now il pi55 fart around for hours, so until then have a good one

hehehe, this is wat too many video games, too many car magazines, having friends & fam who knows heaps of stuff about cars and reading too much on car forums do lol :D

for me its just alot of car games and years of street machine mag, my family hates cars and the workings of it

oh and about the suspensions, i too hav been searching around, and ive got a deal with anthony on the forums who works for Phillcom Rally in SA (which is a bugger coz im in NSW) and im tryin to save up money for a whole suspension setup as mine are still from the factory (as in ORIGINAL PARTS) except for my rear shockies which are now dead after a year and a half of driving... my setup is hopefully KING Lows all round which would drop the car 1.5 inches; KYB gas shock absorbers all round also, Whiteline rear sway bar and Whiteline strut brace, should be a firm ride wen im done :cool:

as for sound i still gota finish the whole install as i only hav tweeters at the front of the car and 2 6x9 akai (crummy but okay speakers) in the rear cased in some boxes which sounds nice :cool: but wat im gonna do is find some verada front door interior bits so i can fit 4inch speakers in the doors and finish a rear setup.

rims, well ive actually got offered a set from a friend, but im still waiting for pics of wat it looks like... :doubt: my current rims are a set of KF Verada rims which look nice on both the sedan and wagons, TR-ENVY also has the same set on his car, but i got mine 1st!! lol :P if i get a good deal on the set of rims my friend is offering me my brother is gonna take the ones from my car and put it on his 3rd gen

tint is also coming soon for me too... but all this will be done after my suspensions are fitted

lol sorry dude its a cleavland 351...

Or a Windsor 351 :D

Or a Windsor 351 :D

is it? lol whats the cleavland?

i'm a holden man :bowrofl:

i'm a holden man :bowrofl:

Hey, we can't help bad taste!!! :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Hey, we can't help bad taste!!! :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

get out of it lol

so,whats the cleavland i got in my head?

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

I find this thread quite hilarious! Sorry I'll leave now.

Continue chatting newbies!

Oh and don't get too excited about turbocharging and supercharging just yet. Better start reading up on the current P platers proposed restrictions, and don't forget to get some insurance quotes too!

I know i hope melbournes laws dont change to much, its a bit harsh banning all turbos etc just because a couple of idiots decided to street race with like 10 seconds cars. Anyway. So say over the stock, i dunno, pedderss suspension you would get, how much would you pick up a set of KING spings all round for? cause i know to change the suspension front and back on the magna with normal suspension would cost like 600 or something, would it be worth getting king springs?

well i kno that in NSW our rules hav been changed that P1 (red P platers) arent allowed to drive any turbocharged, supercharged or v8 vehicle for the whole time until they get on their P2 (green P plates) lisence...

with the KING springs im hopefully picking them up for $120 per pair. i was gonna get Pedders shocks, but seeing their prices, i thought they were a bit unreasonable,

easier way to get rwd. get a triton chassis... n bolt a magna body on it. Youd have to cut sum ****, weld sum **** n bang some ****...but itd fit sooner or later!

would b a sik project for some one who knows what their doing.

easier way to get rwd. get a triton chassis... n bolt a magna body on it. Youd have to cut sum ****, weld sum **** n bang some ****...but itd fit sooner or later!

would b a sik project for some one who knows what their doing.

Like that idea!!!

that sounds like a frigen sick idea, and only 120$ per pair, is that just the shockers, just the springs, or both?

just springs

sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how much were u quoted for the pedders suspension?

oh sorry mate, i ment monroe, ppl here didnt really like pedders so i also went to another maker, and they were gonna be like $500+ for all 4...

bloody hell thats alot, so that like 500, plus 120, plus 120, so around about 740 all up, gee i didnt think it would be that expensive, althought it does seem like a quality brand, well thanks for the price guides there dude

no worries mate, just dnt go for cheapy stuff, as my bro figured that out with my 2nd gen wen he had it, he put in some gas ryder suspensions (a cheapo brand i think :confused:) and it died out after half a year or a bit more than that

i think gabriel or something

TUFF TR:

Word of warning:

Modding magna's ISNT cheap!!

:headbange, thanks for that, well ive been saving for my car for many years and made quite a few investments to help kick start it, and, i guess ill be saving for a few more years wont i:S

Unfortunately mate, but this is just because magna's aren't a commonly modified vehicle. It's getting more common now...but not enough to bring performance prices down.

yeah thats a shame, i reckon magnas hav lots of potential to be a decent modded car if its the v6

thats what i say to everyone. it has enormous potential, and hey dont get me wrong, i like thsi car not being modded by alot of people, it leaves it a little unique, i dont want this car to be like of VL turbo or Gtr modded status, im so sick of thsoe cars, id prefer to pay the money to be a little unique

more unique for it to be a wagon :D wheres fuzzlet, i think he wants to put in a matress in his wagon, well he sed something about if its possible to fit in a matress- awesome idea :)

retro shaggin' wagon'

more unique for it to be a wagon :D wheres fuzzlet, i think he wants to put in a matress in his wagon, well he sed something about if its possible to fit in a matress- awesome idea :)
yeah, im here:


i got boot space... GO THE MIGHTY WAGONS!!!


damn straight. wonder if it is possible to get a matress custom made for the back of mine....
Yeah, a matress in the back would be good. Only trouble is the sub box would have to be moved when the car is in, ahem, 'use'. Nah, a panel van would be a better shaggin wagon. Less windows......Anyway. Yeah, matress joke started a week or so ago. Current g/f wants to 'christen' the magna........:D

LMAo *christen* lucky prick