sorry for the wait on these guys but the people that where making mine don't want to do it.
but we have found some one else that does and i'm happy about that as s/c one's are $1000 cheeper and are blank billet cams ground to what you want.
ok here are the prices there not as cheep as i thought they would be but you cant have every thing

any stage ie 1. 2. or 3 for 3.5 $1300+gst
any stage ie 1. 2. or 3 for 3.0 $1300+gst
turbo cams $1400+gst
super charger cams $1400+gst

these cams are blank billet not regrinds

i have been adviced that stage 1 you only need a piggy back ecu stock every thing else is ok thats stock air intake and even stock exhaust

stage 2 you will need a piggy back ecu and may need adjustable gearing this is depending on the tune you want as the gearing can change the power band from say the power comes in at 1500rpm till5000 rpm or if you want it to ,power in at 3000rpm til 7000 rpm but this is not a must stock air intake and stock exhaust are ok
gaering is about $500 if you want a top tune done

stage 3 well there you have to change s*** loads

these are sold as single set only we do not get a better price for 10 sets

if any one still wants them just let me know

dont you hate when your girl friend has been loged in and never loged out

i get L2S cams for 80 dollars :P

wats the difference with the turbo ones ??

wats the difference with the turbo ones ??

More lift and overlap, I think.. so you can get all the extra air out. You don't have to worry about exhaust air going out the intake end when your intake is at a positive pressure.

wats the difference with the turbo ones ??
its a different grind and the s/c one's different again

thanks for all this pomejo, champion!

will have to sort out finances and let you know...

Any chance we can know the name of the workshop that's doing this?

nice well i'll be up for some turbo ones, just not till i do my rebuild

hey joe..... any idea if the stage 2 for 3.0L will have any complications if you have an auto?

hey joe..... any idea if the stage 2 for 3.0L will have any complications if you have an auto?
not that i know of i will ask next time i'm in the mechs

Any chance we can know the name of the workshop that's doing this?
i don't know who they are i'm getting all the info through my local engine rebiulder who is getting my cams and pistons for me. he did say he would normaly put a 35% mark up on all the stuff he gets for some one but is not this time as he is a mate of my mech and has had so much problems getting my cams and pistons so he is only putting $25 on a set as a favour

if some of you are i no hurry and can wait till mine get here and are put in then we can have a test of them.i have been told they know of the problem of the lifters tapping (like some others) and that these one's will not sound like a diesel

:badgrin: mwahahaha:badgrin: nick.

what happens if you put supercharged cams in and you dont have a supercharger...????

what happens if you put supercharged cams in and you dont have a supercharger...????
Hold on... I think I know the answer to this... it's cryptic... :P

what happens if you put supercharged cams in and you dont have a supercharger...????
then you can't tune it that well. they wil not let the right amont of air in and so on
if you dont have a sc dont get sc cams

can you do us a favour joe....... can you find out from your mech how much it'll cost me to have cams fitted? PM me if you want.

can you do us a favour joe....... can you find out from your mech how much it'll cost me to have cams fitted? PM me if you want.

i'd like to know an average fitment cost too if possible, thx mate

then you can't tune it that well. they wil not let the right amont of air in and so on
if you dont have a sc dont get sc cams

So what happens if you wanna do cams in 6 months but getting a blower in a year or so and dont want to do them again..???

what happens if you put supercharged cams in and you dont have a supercharger...????

bwahahhaha!!!! :bowrofl: ROFL!! do it!! it'd be great!! your car will go almost as fast as a s/c car....... while you're at it, get some stickers too.... i hear they're worth 2 hp each!!

bwahahhaha!!!! :bowrofl: ROFL!! do it!! it'd be great!! your car will go almost as fast as a s/c car....... while you're at it, get some stickers too.... i hear they're worth 2 hp each!!

Not that funny u fool..... lol

So what happens if you wanna do cams in 6 months but getting a blower in a year or so and dont want to do them again..???

sell the N/A ones and buy the S/C ones :D pretty much all you can do...

can you do us a favour joe....... can you find out from your mech how much it'll cost me to have cams fitted? PM me if you want.
can do but i will need to know what stage you want if stage 2 do you want cam gearing and do you have a piggy back ecu if yes which one

So what happens if you wanna do cams in 6 months but getting a blower in a year or so and dont want to do them again..???
don't get cams now wait till you s/c it and get s/c at the same time or buy s/c cams now and put them in when you s/c it or ya get n/a then sell them and gets/c ones when you need them but you will loss money that way

Ecu is GReddy E-manage. and how much for with cam gears, and without. thanks joe

can you do us a favour joe....... can you find out from your mech how much it'll cost me to have cams fitted? PM me if you want.
here is the price to fit the cams
cam fitting $396

dyno tunning $440 but this price is to cover his a*** he said it may only take 2 hours to tune and then its only $220 for tunning

gearing fitting $528 but the gearing is for cars with lots of mods and want a mad tune done (you dont need gearing if you dont want them)

+ all parts (gaskets for the rocker cover eg)
and as you have the Emanage he will need soft ware and leads or if it has a key pad.
so that makes it around $2266 for cams suppled fitted and tuned

Pojemo your a champ :D Thanks for the info im definately going to be getting a set in the next 3-4 months.

so joe, your mech can install and tune the emanage? i've got the software tool and software.... 'cos i still need it installed, but if your mech can do it, i may as well get him to do that as well as the cams!!

so joe, your mech can install and tune the emanage? i've got the software tool and software.... 'cos i still need it installed, but if your mech can do it, i may as well get him to do that as well as the cams!!
he can install it for you and i would say if you do it at the same time that it should not cost much at all when your ready pm me and give you his number

Thanks for the update pomejo... look I know this is a bit of an unknown but what sort of gain would be expected from this mod would you or other people guess over the engine capacities? I know it is going to vary from motor to motor but I would be interested to know what bang for buck to roughly expect for my 3.0 litre Auto... sorry if this has been covered already.

As I have said before I am looking at possibly renewing/upgrading the internals... so if it would be wiser for me to go second stage cams and get the internals to suit I would be probably be best off approaching it from this angle... would this be wise by others?

Thanks for the update pomejo... look I know this is a bit of an unknown but what sort of gain would be expected from this mod would you or other people guess over the engine capacities? I know it is going to vary from motor to motor but I would be interested to know what bang for buck to roughly expect for my 3.0 litre Auto... sorry if this has been covered already.

As I have said before I am looking at possibly renewing/upgrading the internals... so if it would be wiser for me to go second stage cams and get the internals to suit I would be probably be best off approaching it from this angle... would this be wise by others?
you dont need any internals done to run stage 2's
i dont think any one knows what power they will give till some one does it
is there any one that has had rpw n/a cams fitted and had it dynoed so we can get an idea of the power diffrents

you dont need any internals done to run stage 2's
Yeah sorry, I should have expanded a bit... my engine is getting pretty sluggish as it has done 225,000 K's (i know others have done more) and I was looking at upgrading/renewing the internals anyway to give it a new lease on life... and if dropping in stage 2 cams is worth it, then I should probably do that and the internals all at the same time.

I am thinking there is no point me putting in the cams and have it lead to faster breakdown of other worn parts as a result... ie, do it properly first time.

I am thinking there is no point me putting in the cams and have it lead to faster breakdown of other worn parts as a result... ie, do it properly first time.
your dead right and if you do it all at the same time you can save money

a question for the turbo ones,
do u need the cam gears and stronger springs ?

a question for the turbo ones,
do u need the cam gears and stronger springs ?
for a turbo cam gears are a must. springs will depend on how much psi you run

More lift and overlap, I think.. so you can get all the extra air out. You don't have to worry about exhaust air going out the intake end when your intake is at a positive pressure.

Turbo cams usually have more lift and less overlap :) as their boosted they can force more air in, in the same time(lift) but you don't want to waste to much boost pressure out the exhaust(overlap). Big overlap is usually the domain of NA engine to get them to rev and use the rushing intake air to remove excess exhaust gas.

Matthius

Turbo cams usually have more lift and less overlap :) as their boosted they can force more air in, in the same time(lift) but you don't want to waste to much boost pressure out the exhaust(overlap). Big overlap is usually the domain of NA engine to get them to rev and use the rushing intake air to remove excess exhaust gas.

Matthius

Good point :redface:

ALright so whats the specs on stock cams?


I guess what I am trying to find is what kind of info do you need to give somebody in order for them to make cams for me? I am in the U.S it'd much cheaper to make em over here. I willing to bet that you guys get your cams from over here.

Now I know that some of you don't like RPW, but so that you are all informed and make up your own mind, RPW has cams on special for May.

See this link http://www.rpw.com.au/specials.htm

I don't have anything to bad to say about RPW. I have heard some bad feedback regarding thier cams though. :D


Well they seemed decently priced now I guess. Still too expensive for my test but still worth it. I may start saving my pennies for these unless something cheaper comes along. They also got dealer on cam gears and valve springs.

Also: "Due to the nature of these components, we will be grouping all orders together and the sending them all out at the same time which will be at the end of June 2005. We will not garauntee that any orders placed in the last two weeks of JUNE will be able to meet this deadline or pricing. We recomend that your orders be placed in advance in the month of MAY. Deposits will be required up front for any orders of no less than $110.00 with balance payable upon completion of the work at time of delivery."

That does seem like a more reasonable price. Wish my car was out of warranty, sort of.

i have just been talking to some one with stage 1 cams and the power is 190kw fly wheel so stage 2 if i had to guess i would say the power would be around 250+ at the fly wheel and would give a good boost of touque

is that from just the cam change or other mods included, thats alot of power



talked to RPW and there stage 1 cam only make 5hp increase but a high torque incease

i have just been talking to some one with stage 1 cams and the power is 190kw fly wheel so stage 2 if i had to guess i would say the power would be around 250+ at the fly wheel and would give a good boost of touque

what motor and setup you talkin about?

My tax return should be very sizeable which should come through in 2-3 months so will definatly be getting a set of cams with this moneys.

I think im going to give stage 2's a crack im just wondering what driveability and fuel consumption will be like and how badly they will idle.

Yeah I want the stage 2 but I wonder how many gallons I of fuel I am gonna loose. I know it might idle a bit rough till you get on the gas but I think I can live with that. Maybe I'll just stick with stage ones. SO whats the torque difference between stage 1 and 2?

i have just been talking to some one with stage 1 cams and the power is 190kw fly wheel so stage 2 if i had to guess i would say the power would be around 250+ at the fly wheel and would give a good boost of touque
You're kidding right? I very much doubt that stage two cams would magically give 100kW even with the mods he has (extractors, muffler, CAI and Unichip).

Yeah you may be right.....do you know who this person is? I am gonna ask Dave the power difference and let you guys know.

You're kidding right? I very much doubt that stage two cams would magically give 100kW even with the mods he has (extractors, muffler, CAI and Unichip).
remember thats at the fiy wheel. 190 at the fly wheel is around 135atw thats not much

i had 132kw atw with just a chip and extractors

so i would say that if you had stage 2 and a programible ecu extractors and a kn filter i cant see why 250+ atfw is a joke thats like 185kw atw

the car that has 190 is a 3.5L 2000 odd

I had 132kw ATW from CAI, extractors, exhaust, TB and Unichip from a 3.0 manual.

remember thats at the fiy wheel.
I know and that's what I'm saying. 190kW at the flywheel, (is obviously realistic), but then up to 250kW at the flywheel from stage 1 to stage 2 is unrealistic in my opinion.

I reckon 220kW is more realistic from a "stage 2" camshaft profile.

Remember Booya had his 13:1 high compression worked to hell motor and it "only" hit 240kW at the flywheel and was an absolute bastard to drive on the street, so to expect 250kW and expecting it to be streetable is probably pushing it a bit :D

I reckon 220kW is more realistic from a "stage 2" camshaft profile.

Remember Booya had his 13:1 high compression worked to hell motor and it "only" hit 240kW at the flywheel and was an absolute bastard to drive on the street, so to expect 250kW and expecting it to be streetable is probably pushing it a bit :D
thats cool 220kw is good

Regrinds on your stock cams are available. Specs are typically 10-15 degrees
more duration and .010"-.015" more lift. HP gains are in the 5-15 range
depending on tuning. Rough idle is common if we exceed the above figures.

Cost is $100 per cam. Allow 1 week shop time + shipping. Send cores along
with detailed note stating engine model, intended application, power adders
(turbo, NOS, etc), rpm range to address below.


Brian Crower.........