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BUrN
12-05-2005, 12:03 PM
Sorry for not searching this , but I recently got a set of VRX rims and have just got a quote from the local tyrepower store. The tyres on the rims ATM are 225/50 R17, I got a few quotes on that size, then he said I could also fit a 235/45 R17 on the same rims, which are slightly cheaper. Has anyone else fitted the same trye sizes on 17" rims especially VRX rims, and what brand of tyres do people recommend, considering price. Iam looking at low to middle range in pricing, IE i dont want to spend $250 + per tyre for bridgestone or pirrelli if ya get my drift.

he seemed to be pushing the toyo try alot, anyone else have these? Any comments feedback appreciated :D

Redav
12-05-2005, 12:12 PM
I have Falken ZE-512 235/45R17's on my VR-X rims and they're worth around $220 - $250 and the cheapest I've had is $200. They are a model that's being phased out.

They are not legal though. They have the load rating (97) but the widest you can fit to a 7 inch wide rim is 225.

If you need to make a claim and your insurer nails you for unroadworthy tyres, you will be kicking yourself for having saved $20 per tyre.

BUrN
12-05-2005, 12:21 PM
I asked him if they were legal and if the load rating would be affected and he said no :nuts:

BluWhle
12-05-2005, 12:52 PM
Here are some options bro...

1. Toyos getting them soon was told by many people they grip like crazy... was told to get the T1-S. Was told they were $245

2. Nankang are good but takes a bit to warm up LOL. $130

3. Nitto same thing....

4. Pirellis never tried them so dont kow....

5. Bridgestone got them on my stock... they were good...

6. Falkens heard they were alright try the Ziex 326. $185-$220

dats all i could get 4 ya... hope it helps u out...

Redav
12-05-2005, 01:20 PM
I asked him if they were legal and if the load rating would be affected and he said no :nuts:
Okay, that's the salesman in him. Tell him to go look at the Tyre and Rims Association Handbook. It's the bible on what's legal and what's not. If they aren't using it then they are dodgy and you will get burnt.

Of course load rating is affected. Different tyres and profiles all have a specified load rating for a reason, i.e. design, construction, materials etc. Look at your tyre placard and it will tell you what your load rating needs to be. Chances are your TJ will rated at 94. This means you won't have any problems with tyre selection.

235/45R17's aren't allowed to be fitted to a 7 inch wide rim so you have to go 225/50. I think the reason they are generally more expensive is that they are an odd size.


6. Falkens heard they were alright try the Ziex 326. $185-$220
I think that's my spare tyre. It's non-directional whereas my other four are directional. Falkens have great grip in the dry but leave a little to be desired in the wet. Having a narrower tyre in the wet is better too.

VRX_MY02
12-05-2005, 01:24 PM
I asked him if they were legal and if the load rating would be affected and he said no :nuts:
Maximum legal tyre size for a 7" wide rim is a 225. (17" VRX rims are 7" wide)

This is a guideline set by the TRAA (Tyre and Rim Association of Australia).

The tyre dealer should have a copy of this manual, if he doesn't, or does and isn't reading it, then shop elsewhere.

We would all like to run 235s on our 7" rims, as they are known to actually fit, but they are not legal as Redav has pointed out. What is not legal = not roadworthy = not insured.

As for 225/50/17 tyres, I had the Bridgestone Grid II tyres on my VRX rims from factory, they were a nice tyre.


Bridgestone Grid II (superseded) -
Pro's - Decent performance wet and dry, long life (Up to ~70,000 kms).
Con's - slightly noisy compared to most other tyres.
Bridgestone Potenza Grid III -
Same as Grid II, expected to have longer life then Grid II though. (Up to ~80,000 kms)
Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3 -
Pro's - Excellent performance in the dry, decent performance in the wet, very quite tyre.
Con's - softer compound (much lower life ~ 40,000 kms)

Last time I checked the Grid III's were retailing for about $220 a tyre and the Eagle F1's about $240

BUrN
12-05-2005, 01:36 PM
Okay, that's the salesman in him. Tell him to go look at the Tyre and Rims Association Handbook. It's the bible on what's legal and what's not. If they aren't using it then they are dodgy and you will get burnt.

235/45R17's aren't allowed to be fitted to a 7 inch wide rim so you have to go 225/50. I think the reason they are generally more expensive is that they are an odd size.



Thanks, I do remember seeing this kind of discussion b 4 but took no notice of it cos i dodnt have rims, the last thing i want is to risk voiding insurance by have incorrect tyre sizes as you say to save $20.

Thanks for the feed back, Iam gonna call a few more places. Out of interest he quoted $210 per trye fitted and balanced for a set of toyo's, then he said they were mp3's, does that sound right???

BUrN
12-05-2005, 01:57 PM
Can anyone in adelaide recommend a good place for tyres, have called Beaurepairs they werent very helpful, only had dunlop 602's for 280, Bob jane a little better, Dunlop Lm 702 for $239 or hankook for $210. They were selling Bridgestone GII for $266, Tyrepower toyo for $210, Hankook for $220 and dunlop/bridgestone for around the 250 mark.

VRX_MY02
12-05-2005, 02:15 PM
Can anyone in adelaide recommend a good place for tyres, have called Beaurepairs they werent very helpful, only had dunlop 602's for 280, Bob jane a little better, Dunlop Lm 702 for $239 or hankook for $210. They were selling Bridgestone GII for $266, Tyrepower toyo for $210, Hankook for $220 and dunlop/bridgestone for around the 250 mark.
Grid IIs for $266??? :shock:

The Grid II has been superceded for a while now.

You can get Grid III's for about $220 a tyre if you shop around, same for the Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3, you can get them for about $240 a tyre.

BUrN
12-05-2005, 02:35 PM
Grid IIs for $266??? :shock:

The Grid II has been superceded for a while now.

You can get Grid III's for about $220 a tyre if you shop around, same for the Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3, you can get them for about $240 a tyre.


Unless there's a price difference between sa/vic? I dunno.

Gonna try friends of friends who know people who are related to neighbours who see people who know of someone who works in a trye shop. Yo get the drift :D

VRX_MY02
12-05-2005, 03:02 PM
Unless there's a price difference between sa/vic? I dunno.

Gonna try friends of friends who know people who are related to neighbours who see people who know of someone who works in a trye shop. Yo get the drift :D
Hahahahaha lol