just wondering how fast everyone elses first gen can go from 0-100km/h.

takes a while for me to get up ot the highway speed limit :bowrofl:

takes a while for me to get up ot the highway speed limit :bowrofl:

You are not wrong there. It feels like im doing a 1/4 mile run lol

My TP is actually amazingly quick. I dunno why but it's not that hard to speed in!

yeah, mines running extremely well and hella rev happy atm, but i couldnt tell u my times, ive never timed it..... i dont think there are gonna be many times in this thread. more like speculations. lol no real place near me i can get to 100 safely. :doubt:

My TP is actually amazingly quick. I dunno why but it's not that hard to speed in!

Sometimes my car runs quick and some days it just feels crap.

I wont mind seeying what mine can do though. Just for the fun of it.

looks like ill hafta take the gf out and test it :P

the main problem i have it getting the exact amount of throttle as to not throw off the TPS/gearbox into a frenzy.

if i go too hard, the car will rev its nuts off and not go anywhere, and itll also sit around in neutral for what seems like forever (prolly 2-3secs),
But if i get it just right, i can almost get there as fast as my old XF falcon

I reckon 5-6 seconds :evil: :badgrin:

You know what Ive never tried it....hmmmm looks like ive found something else to do lmao.

My TPS needs adjusting again, friggen thing had been going great since we changed the air cleaner pipe which had a massive crack in it..... no wonder it balked and carried on!!
But my ICS is sticky and needs to be lubed up again so it works more betterer!!!????

Then I will run it out and see how we go, wont be official or nuttin just flog the old girl up the high way, actually might use the new bridge tonight....(plotting and scheming)

will get back to ya's.

id say 0-100km/h in 15 minutes :D
nah seriously probably 9 seconds
i had a 2 1/4inch exhaust from the cat back with lukey muffler fitted on monday, i rang the guy up again today and said umm i want extractors too :badgrin:
so im getting em fitted tommorow arvo, will sound even tougher then
thank god for plastic fantasic

It depended on the day, and what shenanigans the transmission was planning to pull. If it stuck in second, it got there quicker than if it allowed a change to third. Guestimate of 11-15ish seconds.

Manual should slice a coupla seconds of the run, as the motor has lots of get up and go (this was the good one, that did the bottom chain). The other one had plenty of got up and left.

mine runs mid - lowish 9s could probally run very high 8s on cold nites pushin it but times vary due to temp, the astron is very temp dependent

mine runs mid - lowish 9s could probally run very high 8s on cold nites pushin it but times vary due to temp, the astron is very temp dependent
And tempramental...

And tempramental...
and clickity and vaccume cleaner like :bowrofl:

and clickity and vaccume cleaner like :bowrofl:
hey hey now..... come on


we all know nothing sucks as much as a hoover :D
i'll be videoing my 0-100 today, by request, so there will be a time put up along with a video if anyones interested.
basically stock engine with only zorst and breathing mods.

hehe might not suck as much as a hoover but you could mistake the sound
yes interested in video :D

I'll do a gtech sometime, but by the time our cars hit 100 they are almost over the quarter hehe

well, with no surprise to me my 0-100 was extremely unimpressive, but i know why. A the car is running extremely lean. could smell it as i got out the car to park it. B the carb is way out of tune, i have near to no low down torque. so unless i take off correctly it's gonna take a extra 2-3 seconds. and C i didnt pull out correctly, so it did take an extra 2-3 seconds. hehe
so in the end my unimpressive runs were 13.3 12.6 and 12
first attempt i travelled so much a distance i made the dog leg turn and kinda had to slow down. 2nd attempt i ran out of room and almost landed in the park and final attempt i had to escape an annoyed passerby that came out of a side street. so all round a fun afternoon with disappointing times.
from a good assumption, had the carby been in tip top condition with a nice llooooonnnggggg stretch of road that i could just flaw i'd say id be doing low 10s high 9s.

side note i dont condone street racing, the passerby had the right to be angry, lucky i knew the suburb streets :redface:

mm, not bad for a stock car, mine does anywere from 12-10 depending on conditions, all thats done to mine is muffler

does that mean no video now astron boi? ;)

if u wanna see a camera being knocked all over the place from having to steer instead of keep the camera still u can waste ure d/ld yes.....

ill be fine :doubt:
but i want to see some vids on gen1s....

u got mine didnt ya mad? :D... i might have to do a 0-100 at night time. just came home then, its 1am and DAMN it pulls lol... love this cold air in the tropics "autumn/winter" periods. our winter is like sydneys summer, i sht u not. i went down to sydney at xmas time, and i was wearing a jumper

9.0 with 4000 rpm changes due to tp auto + tm ecu

willing to supply video evidence with verbal proof from notorius

and no u cannot know what my cam specs are

btw i now have alot more work dun.. suck :badgrin:

kidding lol

jaydee

*Clap*

yeah 9 flat, **** that car can move, even with only like 3/4 throttle, cant wait till thurs.

9.0 with 4000 rpm changes due to tp auto + tm ecu

willing to supply video evidence with verbal proof from notorius

and no u cannot know what my cam specs are

btw i now have alot more work dun.. suck :badgrin:

kidding lol

jaydee

i wanna see it :D

post the vid already!

http://magnascott.no-ip.org/Go.WMV
http://magnascott.no-ip.org/Tm-revva.WMV
right click save
warnign slow host as its on my computer cause other hosts are gay

not working....

not working....
now is

now is

ill hafta disagree ...

worked for me, good stuff!

9secs on the dot! very nice time

When i save it tries to save a html page,
when i open it it brings up a blank white page.????????????????????????

i saw it at uni, no sound, but seemed quick!

yeah i dont like to make excuses for the car but both me and notorius know that is a very modest time for that car. if anyone wants to discuss anything first gen related with me including my car or urs feel free to add me on tek_doulka@hotmail.com

jaydee

**** me, dled from home, sounds mad!! and i didnt realise b4, not even maxxin out revvin :bowrofl: dear god.

hey guys i took a video of the sound of my tm on the way to work today, if u listen close u can hear the exhaust popping as i slow down :cool:

SUPER DIALUP WARNING

13 meg time waster

Cruzin in the TM (http://members.westnet.com.au/cruizin in the tm.asf)

http://magnascott.no-ip.org/Go.WMV
http://magnascott.no-ip.org/Tm-revva.WMV
right click save
warnign slow host as its on my computer cause other hosts are gay

not working dude :confused:

hey guys i took a video of the sound of my tm on the way to work today, if u listen close u can hear the exhaust popping as i slow down :cool:

SUPER DIALUP WARNING

13 meg time waster

Cruzin in the TM (http://members.westnet.com.au/cruizin in the tm.asf)

no work ;)

Sorry try this :redface:
cruizin in the tm (http://members.westnet.com.au/mccormack/cruizintm.asf)
wohoo it works

hey, ur in WA right?

where the **** is that? i dont remember it at all :confused:

nice vid, wotcha use to encode it, ive got my dyno vid thats only 1:32min and its a freaking 32mb mpg

FIX YOUR GOD DAM cluch pedel lol arr mine used to make that EXACT sound a piss the hell out of me thank god i fixed it
nice clip btw gotta love that burbble from the exhaust of an astron when u back off power

thanks guys :D
yeah that was just straight from my digital cam corder it encodes im mpeg4 640x480 resuloution at 15fps or 320x240 at 30fps sound qualitys is a low 8khz mono. i just taped it to the dash. yeah im in WA, southern suburbs. that road is beliar drive in yangebup thats the new roundabout they put in. i couldnt really drive the car hard on this run, will be intresting to see what its like full song on the dyno.

thanks guys :D
yeah that was just straight from my digital cam corder it encodes im mpeg4 640x480 resuloution at 15fps or 320x240 at 30fps sound qualitys is a low 8khz mono. i just taped it to the dash. yeah im in WA, southern suburbs. that road is beliar drive in yangebup thats the new roundabout they put in. i couldnt really drive the car hard on this run, will be intresting to see what its like full song on the dyno.

pfft, take it for a midnight run doing laps of the freeway, unless the cops have caught on and watch it like vultures....

old mate of mine took me for a ride, 230km before (what we thought was) an off duty police officer started waving at us to slow down :P

i remember comming back from a girls place at rockingham, and crusing back up the freeway with my radar detector :badgrin:

hmmm i think its time i get the video camera out for my car :P show u how fast i can go from 0-180 with wheelspin through all gears LOL

Under 6 seconds, regularly :D

Under 6 seconds, regularly :D
id be more than interested to see that, video evidence appriciated. also not interested in ur particiular specs on the car as we dont want everyone cruising around with the same stuff but can u tell us what engine ur using ? is it an astron or 4g63 like i suspect.

thanx dude

jaydee

see my specs in this thread (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19398)

Twin-Turbo 2.5 Litre 6a13 engine - 205kw stock

Also here (http://www.clubvr4.com/index.php?page=specifications)

I have de-catted and air-induction. Turbo spins up earlier.

Sorry Guys, Just noticed this thread was was for "First Generation Magna TM - TP" only.

hmmm i think its time i get the video camera out for my car :P show u how fast i can go from 0-180 with wheelspin through all gears LOL

thats mad, so i can safely assume all the hassle was worth it ? :D

id be more than interested to see that, video evidence appriciated. also not interested in ur particiular specs on the car as we dont want everyone cruising around with the same stuff but can u tell us what engine ur using ? is it an astron or 4g63 like i suspect.

thanx dude

jaydee

hypocrit, u didnt think up the weber carb idea either lol

actauly he had though of it wayyyyy before he decided to join these forums

Err. Somewhere in the realms of 20-25 seconds... Blasted exhaust!

(It's blocked, so the car can't rev much past 3000, and I haven't got it fixed)

lol u kno.. ur right.. i was on my l's preeching i was going to get extractors and a webber when i hardly knew what they were LOL thanx for reminding me notorius :bowrofl:


by the way its now a 5 speed TM ELITE haha SUCK

My car is quite quick too, hasnt had much done (I'd say about 6 sec). There again, 5 minutes before the counter-balance chain fell off it was doing 180Km/Hr in 4th gear :)

My car is quite quick too, hasnt had much done (I'd say about 6 sec). There again, 5 minutes before the counter-balance chain fell off it was doing 180Km/Hr in 4th gear :)

6 seconds for a stocko 2.6ltr astron???? u must be dreaming or u had ur front end jacked up and were freewheeling it. Find me a stock magna that does 6secs 0-100 and i will give u my vr4 magna

6 seconds for a stocko 2.6ltr astron???? u must be dreaming or u had ur front end jacked up and were freewheeling it. Find me a stock magna that does 6secs 0-100 and i will give u my vr4 magna
a ralliart magna does it in 6.xx seconds and thats stock give me ur vr4 now.... :P

6 seconds for a stocko 2.6ltr astron???? u must be dreaming or u had ur front end jacked up and were freewheeling it. Find me a stock magna that does 6secs 0-100 and i will give u my vr4 magna..... just incase u didnt know a ralliart isnt a aSRON 2

Find me a stock magna that does 6secs 0-100 and i will give u my vr4 magna


..... just incase u didnt know a ralliart isnt a aSRON 2
He don't say Astron in the challenge...

indeed lol

Serz??? orite give me the ralliart magna and my VR4 one is all urs!! lol i reckon im getting the better end of the deal lol

cheaky lol... but no deal :P

6 seconds for a stocko 2.6ltr astron???? u must be dreaming or u had ur front end jacked up and were freewheeling it. Find me a stock magna that does 6secs 0-100 and i will give u my vr4 magna
Obviously my calculation is off :)
I will tell you this - the Elante WAS quick. It aint no more :(

Serz??? orite give me the ralliart magna and my VR4 one is all urs!! lol i reckon im getting the better end of the deal lol
You didnt say you wanted the stock magna that does a 6 second run to 100 Km/Hr. You just wanted to see it from what I gather :)

I'd be amazed if my TP could actually get to 100kmph

this is real sad
my Gas magna did 0 - 100km in *32 seconds*
now is this normal for such an old auto on lpg and a Carbie??? 283000km on clock

just sad..... :cry: :redface:

this is real sad
my Gas magna did 0 - 100km in *32 seconds*
now is this normal for such an old auto on lpg and a Carbie??? 283000km on clock

just sad..... :cry: :redface:
WTF 32 seconds wow something is up for sure thats WAY WAY WAY too slow

this is real sad
my Gas magna did 0 - 100km in *32 seconds*
now is this normal for such an old auto on lpg and a Carbie??? 283000km on clock

just sad..... :cry: :redface:
did you floor it? or just let it cruise up to that speed? lol, i can make my car do 0-100 crawl in 5 mins, that was the longest i could stretch it out to. lol

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

i thought i had problems wen i did a 0-100 in 15 seconds (and i did, my secondaries werent opening on my carb)

yeah flooring it!
once i kept it in "D" with overdrive off, it did it in about 37 seconds.
it revs its guts out to 4500 before going into 2nd then about the same to 3rd...

if i drive it like a manual (if thats possible) like 1st to 4500, then 2nd...3rd...overdrive
then it does 32 seconds. and flooring it.
it doesnt rev past 4500 anyways!!
man this car is such a good cruizer but acceleration SUCKS!!!

in the carbie it has a gas adapter plate which decreases the diameter of the air intake by 5cm
but it needs it for the lpg to mix with oxygen better. the carbie is also lined with black powdery carbon stuff.

should i go to EFI??

yeah flooring it!
once i kept it in "D" with overdrive off, it did it in about 37 seconds.
it revs its guts out to 4500 before going into 2nd then about the same to 3rd...

if i drive it like a manual (if thats possible) like 1st to 4500, then 2nd...3rd...overdrive
then it does 32 seconds. and flooring it.
it doesnt rev past 4500 anyways!!
man this car is such a good cruizer but acceleration SUCKS!!!

in the carbie it has a gas adapter plate which decreases the diameter of the air intake by 5cm
but it needs it for the lpg to mix with oxygen better. the carbie is also lined with black powdery carbon stuff.

should i go to EFI??

do u know if ur secondaries are actually opening? cause it dosent sound as if they are... try a can of carby cleaner. turn the car on and just let it idle normal until its at operating temperature. then just aim into the throats of the carby and spray... the car will splutter and almost stall, just rev it alittle (with either someone else doing it inside the cabin or u can do it by moving the acclerator bracket... damn forget its name lol... long day)... keep doing this for awhile, spraying into the primary and secondary throats and revving each time. then after u are happy with it take the car for a drive and give it a boot or 2 to get rid of the excess carby cleaner

ha if it was that easy...
the car can hardly run on petrol it just keeps stalling and farting or wont rev past1600rpm
LPG is fed through a kinda flattened out pipe which is cut on an angle, and its right at the top of the carbie.

i should just take it to the mechanic and get it serviced or a tune up....
mines got 283,000km...

Q: what do they do in a service??
is it just change plugs, leads, filters. oil change, coolant change...
like i can do all that myself

Q: what do they do in a tune up?
eh, timing?

a mate is selling his 1990 elite for about $400 with 302000km and no reco or nuffin
but the timing chain and cogs are completely farqued,(its pretty pricey to fix eh! a mechi said $1200!!)
so i thought i could get the EFI system
and its 3 year old auto transmission,
digi dash, power windows mirrors and the cumfy wumfy seats, keep the head (for a spare) and just salvage any other cool bit i need.
Then sell it for parts(wreckers)or roll it off a jetty for a fishing reef...

anyways what yaz all reckon??

It's your choice. Make sure you salvage parts like lights, and such too, as they can cost from the wreckers.

Standard TP no mods,
1st run 22 seconds
2nd run 20 seconds ( manually changing the auto)

Car seems to bog down over 3500 rpm.

I,m putting a Weber 32/36 on next week and will report any difference.


Timing for both runs was done with a G tech.

BTW my commodore v6 standard does it in 7 seconds.


I am wondering if I may have the valve timing out , by a tooth, I replaced a head gasket a year ago , and always thought it was a bit of a dog.

Standard TP no mods,
1st run 22 seconds
2nd run 20 seconds ( manually changing the auto)

Car seems to bog down over 3500 rpm.

I,m putting a Weber 32/36 on next week and will report any difference.


Timing for both runs was done with a G tech.

BTW my commodore v6 standard does it in 7 seconds.


I am wondering if I may have the valve timing out , by a tooth, I replaced a head gasket a year ago , and always thought it was a bit of a dog.

20 seconds? still seems way slow

I reckon 5-6 seconds :evil: :badgrin:
yea right :nuts:

yea right :nuts:
he has a 4g63 turbo, 2L twin cam 16 valve engine in his magna. so he's about right. :D

he has a 4g63 turbo, 2L twin cam 16 valve engine in his magna. so he's about right. :D

Damn Right! Plus the extra Mods and a 17psi hit of boost! But if you still dont belive me im prepared to Lay some money down if you are...... :badgrin:

i just got a TP with EFI and no mods it has 110 000km on the clock and payed just over 2k for it, it is in gr8 conditon and when i get some money (still in school atm :rant: ) i will do something to it. but maby next week i am going to the drags and get it timed :bowrofl: against my m8s cars.. so i will post that up when i go.. and is their anything decent that u can do to this car? (sorry for being a bit off topic)

eddy

110000 kms is hardly anything
very good buy for 2 grand

Damn Right! Plus the extra Mods and a 17psi hit of boost! But if you still dont belive me im prepared to Lay some money down if you are...... :badgrin:
a 4x4 wrx subaru does 0 to 100 in 6 sec how do you get traction?

a 4x4 wrx subaru does 0 to 100 in 6 sec

WRX will only do those times if you're willing to slaughter the clutch
by sidestepping at 4000rpm - otherwise it bogs down bad.

If its your own WRX, you'd not want to abuse the clutch so often or you'll be paying bad.


A well-driven 1st gen has a great chance of seeing off a WRX at the lights up to 60km/h.
After 60 he's spooled up his huffer and he's gone.

a 4x4 wrx subaru does 0 to 100 in 6 sec how do you get traction?

As i said im willing to lay down money on this if you are...
When i first got my car back i lined up against a wrx, he got me off the line but once i hit second i was next to him, and this was when the car was only running 10psi and a bad tune. Plus a Vr4 engine puts out more power stock then a wrx job. Plus the magna is lighter, Plus i can hit 100kph in second gear so dont get lag while changing, Plus im not a n00b who dumps the clutch at 6000rpm and expect it to grip. I've beaten plently of cars that would be in a 6second 0-100 slot. So im confident with 6 seconds.

As i said im willing to lay down money on this if you are...
When i first got my car back i lined up against a wrx, he got me off the line but once i hit second i was next to him, and this was when the car was only running 10psi and a bad tune. Plus a Vr4 engine puts out more power stock then a wrx job. Plus the magna is lighter, Plus i can hit 100kph in second gear so dont get lag while changing, Plus im not a n00b who dumps the clutch at 6000rpm and expect it to grip. I've beaten plently of cars that would be in a 6second 0-100 slot. So im confident with 6 seconds.
race race race
hehe
id so love to put my valiant up against you for the fun of it. wouldnt have a chance being an old v8 but man would it be fun. hehe :D

id love to see it in action have you been the 1/4 mile yet?

Standard TP no mods,
1st run 22 seconds
2nd run 20 seconds ( manually changing the auto)

Car seems to bog down over 3500 rpm.

I,m putting a Weber 32/36 on next week and will report any difference.


Timing for both runs was done with a G tech.


Ok, update to these times.

We put the Weber 32/36 on our stock TP Magna today and roughly played around with the jet sizes (more fine tuning tomorrow). Our new 0-100km/h run is about: 12seconds
(manually changing the auto).

I thought that was a pretty impressive improvement to a stock magna. The Carby change shed 8seconds off the time for me :)

good work :D

w00t another 32/36er joins the ranks :cool:

What jet sizes are you using?

-Wagon*

Ok, update to these times.

We put the Weber 32/36 on our stock TP Magna today and roughly played around with the jet sizes (more fine tuning tomorrow). Our new 0-100km/h run is about: 12seconds
(manually changing the auto).

I thought that was a pretty impressive improvement to a stock magna. The Carby change shed 8seconds off the time for me :)

it was taking u 20 seconds to get to 100km/hr? :redface:

was the secondaries opening on your stock magna carb? it was taking my manual TM 16 seconds to get to 100, but that was only cause the secondaries were seized shut.

w00t another 32/36er joins the ranks :cool:

What jet sizes are you using?

-Wagon*

32/36 Weber. Standard motor , done around 200,000. Auto



Prim Fuel 135
Prim Air 165
Sec Fuel 160
Sec Air 180 ( Was running a bit rich with 160 Air , so bumped up air instead of fuel)

Prim idle 55 # the 32/36 has larger idle jets in the primary.
Sec idle 50

Also standard the 32/36 has very close air and fuel jets unlike the Ford carby.

We really need to get a 60 or 65 prim idle , as mixture has to be wound out 3.5 turns.

Tried a drilled out primary idle ( was approx a 80) and really good take off, no hesitation, but mixture screw has to be closed all the way.

TPS still needs a bit of tweaking , but manual changes are great.

I did notice with the TP auto even if you hold the shift in low the gearbox will upshift anyway once the revs get right up, even without the TPS connected.So you can,t really over rev in gears. Quite a clever gearbox.

Manifold vacuum is on the outer distributor diaphragm, ported from carb is on the inner diaphragm. Running around 8 deg advance with both hoses disconnected.

The original carby was vacuum sec, and obviously the secs weren,t working.Wasn,t the original carb , I had made a plate and put a Toyota carby from a 2.4 on a couple of years ago. I guess it just got bad over the last year .

The car specs from new show it can do 0 -100 in 12.2 secs , so around 12 to 13 is great for a stocker.

We didn,t bother trying the Ford carby, the 32/36 seemed great , and would have needed another day of messing around anyway.

The car specs from new show it can do 0 -100 in 12.2 secs , so around 12 to 13 is great for a stocker.

I still want to do some more mods to it so it can outrun your supposed '8 second 0-100km/h' stock VN Commodore :bowrofl:

Sweet As. Sounds like you have been left in a similar situation to what i was in with my magna.

1990's TP manual wagon, 126000 k's on the clock, with a seized MINUKI carburettor and shagged vaccum system. I did the 32/36 conversion a few months ago and now with 13100k's on the clock she's a dream to drive.

At the moment im using a very similar setup to what you described. Weber 32/36 DGAV (water heated choke) using stock jets (AFAIK my carb was reconditioned for a cortina).
The Choke feeds off a tapped line off the heater hoses, works great during early morning starts
Ive also re-worked / simplified the vaccum system, eliminating some unneccicary components and set my timing to 9 deg advanced. She's a bit quirky on 91ron petrol but damn she loves the odd shot of vortex every now and then.

What did you use for a throttle cam? i reworked the magna/minuki throttle cam for the webber but to clear the choke i had to use a little bending / heating / thrashing with teh mallet to get it to clear it. Im going to have to change it to a simpler design soon to reduce strain on the throttle cable. maybe some 20mm flatbar will do the trick.

Id love to discuss 32/36 setups further if you wish. If you want any details please dont hesitate to ask.

-Wagon*

Wagon*, there's a thread for Weber carby fun. You sound like you know your stuff.

sorry gav, i guess i kinda got sidetracked. Just trying to keep things relevant for Triox + Hydroxinol

-Wagon*

sorry gav, i guess i kinda got sidetracked. Just trying to keep things relevant for Triox + Hydroxinol

-Wagon*
Don't be. I'm actually stating that as a complement!

oh, cheers dude :cool:

-Wagon*