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Al3x
19-05-2005, 09:53 AM
Can anyone who has a 1992 Verada post up your opinions/experiences with this model? Would $3500 to $4500 be a reasonable price for one?

These are auto right? and there are two models Ei and Xi right? What's the diff? Is one preferrable to the other?

Are these EFI or carbi?

veradagirl
19-05-2005, 03:33 PM
Can anyone who has a 1992 Verada post up your opinions/experiences with this model? Would $3500 to $4500 be a reasonable price for one?

These are auto right? and there are two models Ei and Xi right? What's the diff? Is one preferrable to the other?

Are these EFI or carbi?I own a KR Verada 1991 Xi model. I picked mine up for $4500, I thought all verada were autos. I found there are little bit different, like in my model i have the elect control suspension. which has been disconnected, they are the top of the model so the seats are little different, and stuff, as far as i am aware they are all EFI as well.

RuSSiaN
20-05-2005, 02:53 PM
Close to $4000 would be reasonable, usually they have done alot of K'm !

Xi model is nice one for this range.

Chas
24-05-2005, 06:21 PM
I also have one al3x.
230k on the clock, Sony cdx 2000 head unit, Pioneer rear speakers,standard front speakers (lucky it's got a fader).

Front suspension a little soft, scrapes somewhere when the wheels go up.

Oh, it also has a little red light that says check engine. I did and the oil and water is fine so I replaced fuel & air filters.I'm ignoring it until I can get the Haynes manual (hope it's the best one)

Its still better than the old TN wagon
The TM's for sale complete with a spare car

Al3x
24-05-2005, 06:27 PM
Does the 'Check Engine' light stay on all the time? Or does it just flash on for a litle bit when the car starts up?

Good to see you here abouts Chas. We always welcome new members.

Original speakers huh, would they be the 4" dash speakers or the ever so sought after and extremely rare door pod speakers?

If only you'd joined up a few days ago. The QLD aussiemagna division had a BBQ at Currumbin followed by an awsome cruise after. See here for pics: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19202

RuSSiaN
24-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Whats with that check engine light? mine goes on when i turn the ignition and goes off after a couple of seconds, is that normal ?

Chas
25-05-2005, 05:08 AM
According to my owner's manual that's normal.
In my case the light appears during driving, then goes out. I have not yet noticed if there is a consistent pattern eg: hard accelleration, load
In my KR I also have an intermittent lack of power (horse) problem.
The joys of buying a second hand car :rant:, but it's real comfortable. :cool:

Al3x
25-05-2005, 08:51 AM
Chas is correct, the 'Check Engine' light should flash for a few seconds when the car is started.

An intermittent lack of power? How do you mean? Do you find that accelleration between a certain rev range is somewhat lacking or does the engine die after hitting a certain rev point (e.g. after 4000rpm)

Chas, I did a bit of digging and happened apon some ECU codes and stuff:

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18397&highlight=engine+light
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12168&highlight=engine+warning+light
http://madmagna.atspace.com/tech/diagnosticcodestrts.htm

M4DDOG
25-05-2005, 10:30 AM
Engine warning light will come on whilst driving if there is something wrong with the polution control of the car. Mechanic did an ECU scan and it found the error was a faulty O2 sensor. If you have been getting very bad fuel economy lately, most likely it is your O2 sensor. Also ALL cars SHOULD display all lights on the dash when the ignition is turned to on, but not started. Once the car is started, the lights will dissappear one by one as the carputer checks to make sure everything is ok. This will take a few seconds.

Chas
25-05-2005, 05:58 PM
so far, between work jobs (mobile computer consultant) I have read the diagnostic codes and determined that they show Knock Sensor and i think Airflow sensor.
Will have a better look on the weekend and report back.
Thanks al3x I already found the codes at madmagna.com.
Takes about 2-3 seconds from stomping the foot till getting power enough to drop back a gear and go, sometimes it will just not pull at all. This seems to happen more after consistent high revs 4-5.5k

TR-Envy
I don't know what to expect for a tank as I bought the car on Sunday 22nd.
Have used nearly a tank so far and estimat I would get about 430 for a tank.
My driving style is speed limit 100 -110 mostly highway and I'm not scared to use the limited power to overtake so I'm not doing an "economy run"
As it is economy is as good as the carburetted TN wagon this has replaced

TecoDaN
25-05-2005, 06:26 PM
Those two sensors definitely will affect the drivability. If those sensors are faulty, the computer will resort to 'safe' mode, explaining the lack of performance.


The ECU light turns on for about 4 seconds when you start the car. Basically it just tells you that the light is actually working.

Chas
27-05-2005, 11:16 AM
Thanks TecoDAN.
I'm about to go and investigate further
Will post my results if I am able to

missks - im a girl
28-05-2005, 01:29 PM
coupla months ago i had a coupla probs where the engine management light came on so i disconeected the battery for 2 hours to reset the ecu at the instruction of my mechanic

Chas
29-05-2005, 04:11 PM
After reading the diag codes I reset ECU, the knock sensor light came on soon after.
Today I got my Haynes manual and proceeded with the tests in the ECU section, only thing I can't test is the Knock sensor because I don't have a timing light.
Went for a spin tonight and ECU reports no errors
Car still surges at 60 km/h, intermittently idles fast 1500 - 2000 rpm.
Will do the other tests soon, then maybe take it to a mechanic around Tweed Heads.
Can anyone suggest someone competent in diagnostics, that isn't a Tweed Mitsubishi dealer.

Al3x
29-05-2005, 05:00 PM
I can understand you reluctance to take it to a mitsu dealer (they do so like to overcharge), however if you're after diagnostic analysis then most likely it's mitsu that will have the most knowledge. There's a smallish mitsu dealer in m'bah that has a workshop in the industrial estate, might be worth giving them a call if you don't like the mob at Bedser Automotive.

South Tweed Autos may be able to help with diagnostic stuff, I don't know. They're just up the road from Bedser Automotive, half way between South Tweed Mall and Burger King on the north bound lanes.

I know of a mob by the name of Ultratune that may be handy for diagnostics. There is one in Tweed Heads South according to the UltraTune website: http://www.ultratune.com.au/

Tweed Heads South QLD 2486
Franchisee: Dannu Bohen & Diane Bohen
6 / 54 Industry Drive
Phone: 07 5524 6100 Fax: 07 5524 9241
tweedheads@ultratune.com.au
Please phone us for further information

I know of a good couple of auto transmission places, however that's probably of no use to you.

Wouldn't hurt to nip down to repco and price up a new oxygen sensor.
As for oxygen sensor testing, see here: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12339

Mayhaps you need to check/replace your idle speed controller (ISC) motor?
see here: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10148

Chas
29-05-2005, 05:17 PM
Thanks Al3x
Murbah Mits is owned by Steve Bedser.
Had reason to lodge a written complaint to him personally in the past and all I got was excuses for the behaviour of his mechanic (no longer there) definately no apology.

I'll admit it's probably the best place to go but unfortunately I got a long memory.

Al3x
29-05-2005, 05:28 PM
UltraTune might be a go-er then. Can't say I've heard bad things about the Tweed/M'bah Mitsu dealers myself. A little birdie told be a few things about Mr. Bedser though ...

Chas
01-06-2005, 12:32 PM
Hi All
Just had my car diagnosed by DACC from Robina QLD.
A mobile guy with the tools to monitor what is happening with the computer and sensors as the car is running.

Diagnosed the Idle control unit faulty, everything else OK except for knock sensor.

He replaced idle control. now idle is down to 750-800, :D
Diagnostic and idle control was $242.00, I must have spent that much time fiddling under the bonnet, should have found about him earlier.

Now all I need is the software and cable for my laptop and I can watch what my engine is doing instead of where the car is going :naughty:

DelusionL
01-06-2005, 04:51 PM
saw one down the road the other dat KR verada $1500 green paint in good condition interior standard no cuts or scracthes or tears.. looked in great condition and ran well... shame it was 6am or id have bought it on the way to work.. by time i got round there at lunch it was gone..

veradagirl
01-06-2005, 05:58 PM
saw one down the road the other dat KR verada $1500 green paint in good condition interior standard no cuts or scracthes or tears.. looked in great condition and ran well... shame it was 6am or id have bought it on the way to work.. by time i got round there at lunch it was gone..

Man that is cheap. wished i know about it. my boy wants a another car and would be happy with a verada

Chas
02-08-2005, 05:10 AM
Hi, Im back with the report on my power problem.
Borrowed a timing light from my neighbor and checked the timing.
Seems that the last person to do this wasn't aware of the connector that shorts to ground when it's checked. It was set at approx 5 deg ATDC not BTDC
Set it correctly and the car shot of like a rocket and will now respond to all of my demands except beat a V8 commodore. Do I still need to fix something :doh:

Seriously, I am really interested how the ecu would be happy unless I gave it a thrash, then the car would not resond to anything other than WOT (wide open throttle to those that dont know) unless I turned the engine off and restarted.
Seems the ECU was getting tired of trying to get the timing advanced enough and went on strike.
The internet's a great place to get knowledge except for ECUs. Maybe I'll have to get datalogger and set the timing wrong for a quick run and compare with a good log.

Anyone do datalogging? just bought the stuff to build the interface, can't wait to try all the software I found lying around :doubt:

[TUFFTR]
02-08-2005, 09:24 AM
Thanks MadMagna for that info, real handy stuff. i know now im gonna get a 92-95 verada!!!.
ONLY thing i dont like about the veradas is the front and rear bumpers, ill change those if i get one.

Thanks again top info :thumbsup:

Al3x
03-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Set it correctly and the car shot of like a rocket and will now respond to all of my demands except beat a V8 commodore. Do I still need to fix something :doh:


Put NOS in the boot, or drop in a TT DOHC 24v 6G72. I don't know how your auto would handle teh powah tho.

You wouldn't have much trouble beating a old V8 commodore. It'd home in on the nearest power pole after launch.