Before our mountain run last night i wanted to put in a cai. I went off to supercheap and grabbed the 80mm monza kit. I then cut the stock intake just before it curves up (past where it's bolted to the chasis, i did this to utilise the 90 bend with in out of the airbox. I decided to get this over the cheaper do it yourself bunnings way due to the smoother piping.
I previously had bypassed the coolant through my throttle body and the t/b and filter box are so much colder after driving. I have had a problem with top end (which i hope will be resolved by the 3rd of june) but this gave me some go up high, good difference at the top of first and from about 80km/h it rules.
Can i also say my car is so much louder now (intake and exhaust), and you can hear the cai just idling (intake sounds like dad's statemans)....i have definately got some power out of this; not dreaming, i am stoked...
Please note due to me bypassing the coolant my idle speed control needs to be reset and i have a current idle of about 1200rpm. I plan to do this myself tomorrow but i think mitsubishi will do it; i believe it's called a base setting adjust of the stepper motor (isc). Without bypassing the coolant the cai will not be as benifical because the cold air from the front bar will still be heated again at the t/b. Here are some pics;

http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4646/cai0016xu.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0016xu.jpg)

http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4210/cai0025vc.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0025vc.jpg)

zippy-tied to this thing, see-->
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/1452/cai0034zd.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0034zd.jpg)

hope this is interesting or helps...i'm thinking of trying tr-envy's set up as well in a dual set up with this one, don't know if that'll fail miserably though so buying extra components...
thanks

edit-> i also had to take the battery out to get it in and i didn't really flog it after as was in peak hour (which sucks with an idle of 1200rpm)--->reset ecu in manuals don't need to be flogged....i did flog it on the mountain run-->this is why i am stoked.

dont mean to be rude or naive but is that gonna give ya trouble with pickin up water in it during winter? :shock:

dont mean to be rude or naive but is that gonna give ya trouble with pickin up water in it during winter? :shock:

no, the ribbed piping and the angle of it will mean a VERY low amount of water will get to the filter. which if its a K&N it will be oiled cotton.

little or no problems i imagine, unless he tries a river crossing :D

GTRICE Have you thought about spending some time and make a big broad flat scoop set back under the car for a larger ram air effect? or even cutting a large slot into the bar just below the radiator slot.

AJ are u running a panel filter or the pod inside the box?

good to see the old girl is still progressing well

GTRICE Have you thought about spending some time and make a big broad flat scoop set back under the car for a larger ram air effect? or even cutting a large slot into the bar just below the radiator slot.

As delphia said MISSKS it's slightly ribbed and big angles, also got the filter after it so no worries, plus i live in brisbane.

No, i love my verada front bar. Air doesn't always flow the way it should, it'd be alot more complex then that and i'd weening? out small power gains. Theres a program where you can test these sort of flow properties and see where the gains are made.
I must say it wouldn't be hard to customise a connection onto the end of the cai but i still don't think i'd make much more of a gain.

Jase i'm running the panel, and should be getting a k&n (panel, i'm getting some other **** too)) of anthony this week...i still have the pod for further testing... She is going awesome...i have alot to learn--> through some n/a tuning before i go all out :badgrin:

do you have any pics of how you joined it to the airbox? i understand they may be hard to take but since my verada cant be driven for another 2 months I might do this for a bit of fun.

I did a realy similar joby with my old TR,

When you took the snokle and battery out did you notice a hole in the metal between the back of the headlights and the airbox, I got to that using a Drill with a hole saw and cut it out and ran the piping down there, comes out in the exact same spot as yoursa but i still got my washer bottle :)

delphia; i thought hard and used a fully customised duck tape install....i'm going to get a mate to fibreglass it.

aegis; i saw that hole but i didn't want to cut through any metal...i don't really miss the washer bottle, i could actually make a replacement i think but i'm not really bothered
cheers guys

Looks good. Hope you don't need the washer bottle soon. lol

good to see she's still in one piece!

Maybe I can make an airbox / POD box with the cai inlet to the engine side of the air box for an easier join up and permit larger pipe to be run.

A scoop will help heaps - the ram air affect will keep a higher pressure against your TB and airfilter ready to go when called upon :D

pod box on engine side would be awesome, be tight on the auto's though, really a ram air effect is beyond me, i wouldn't know how to build/design the scoop though could figure it out...if i knew how it works

after playing with a similar setup on my 1st gen you dont want to be forcing air in, there is a difference between your cai and a scoop under there forcing air in at speed, i had problems with my 4 cyl leaning out at speed (checked with o2 kit made from jacar), i changed back to almost the same setup you have and the motor ran better, then i removed it all together as 65mm pipe didnt seem to get enough air into the motor at high rpm/low speed (less than 70kph) sure great sucking sound but the motor woulnt rev past 4500rpm, im looking at using the same duct down to the splash plate of my 1st gen 83mm should give it enough air, imho smooth pipe is great for flow ribbed is better for keeping the water out :)

pete

i know im digging up a very old thread here but meh why start a new one
i might do this CAI similar to GTRICE's one soon.
now my dad told me when he disconnected the battery to put a new one in, and reconnected the new battery up, the car had just stuffed up, and he had to take it to mitsubishi to fix the problem.(ill tell u what the problem was tomorrow when hes here)

also.
Benefit of THIS CAI?
i was reading your first post and couldnt understand if are getting a lean mixture with this CAI at higher speeds or when you bypassed coolant, or if this was a different setup you were using?
(im not the bext on the technical sides of things)
if i do this i want to be able to do it in say 2 or 3 hours, and if i disconnect the battery, well i dont want to have to call a mechanic for some stupid reason, im sorta worried if i disconnect it against my dads requests, ill be paying to get it fixed

allo,
im tired some of this may not make sense, my injectors were clogged so the pod filter leaned out the mixture... panel it was fine. With injectors cleaned pods runs ok but with miniscule loss of low down torque...panel is fine.
you dont need to disconnect the battery and bypassing coolant is a must...rams colder air in....air at lower temp fills less area, therefore you can fit more air in, more air more power, best value for money mod, originally induction will be much louder and itll idle high for at first quite a while and for about a week or 2 itll settle down....
you might have problems fitting pipe past auto box

not substantially lean (ie i dont notice it) and what i was saying it makes a big differences at higher speeds... is good use a panel filter...
let your dad know you live you learn. Ive gotten into a bit of **** every now and then working on my own but once solved i come out wiser...
peace out; makes sure i stay loyal to my ts... im so tempted to bail out and get a tj vrx, 1 hr job max

thanks forthe info mate, but as you have put it, i might just do a basic CAI.
if i start to tinker with engine stuff like bypassing coolant and things like that, well i cant have things go wrong and reset.
i might just do the basic CAI and see how that goes.

but thanks for your information champ it really helped

i know im digging up a very old thread here but meh why start a new one
i might do this CAI similar to GTRICE's one soon.
now my dad told me when he disconnected the battery to put a new one in, and reconnected the new battery up, the car had just stuffed up, and he had to take it to mitsubishi to fix the problem.(ill tell u what the problem was tomorrow when hes here)
wat happened was that the ECU restarted itself wen he took out the battery. this happened to my grandparents vectra wen sum noobie replaced their battery, had to take it to holden to get it recallibrated.

exactly what happened to my car.

i had a look also in the engine bay today, ill have to relocate the windscreen washer bottle somewhere else.

now that i know this, i wont be doing CAI for a while, until i can scource an aftermarket washer bottle.

Before our mountain run last night i wanted to put in a cai. I went off to supercheap and grabbed the 80mm monza kit. I then cut the stock intake just before it curves up (past where it's bolted to the chasis, i did this to utilise the 90 bend with in out of the airbox. I decided to get this over the cheaper do it yourself bunnings way due to the smoother piping.
I previously had bypassed the coolant through my throttle body and the t/b and filter box are so much colder after driving. I have had a problem with top end (which i hope will be resolved by the 3rd of june) but this gave me some go up high, good difference at the top of first and from about 80km/h it rules.
Can i also say my car is so much louder now (intake and exhaust), and you can hear the cai just idling (intake sounds like dad's statemans)....i have definately got some power out of this; not dreaming, i am stoked...
Please note due to me bypassing the coolant my idle speed control needs to be reset and i have a current idle of about 1200rpm. I plan to do this myself tomorrow but i think mitsubishi will do it; i believe it's called a base setting adjust of the stepper motor (isc). Without bypassing the coolant the cai will not be as benifical because the cold air from the front bar will still be heated again at the t/b. Here are some pics;

http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4646/cai0016xu.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0016xu.jpg)

http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4210/cai0025vc.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0025vc.jpg)

zippy-tied to this thing, see-->
http://img279.echo.cx/img279/1452/cai0034zd.th.jpg (http://img279.echo.cx/my.php?image=cai0034zd.jpg)

hope this is interesting or helps...i'm thinking of trying tr-envy's set up as well in a dual set up with this one, don't know if that'll fail miserably though so buying extra components...
thanks

edit-> i also had to take the battery out to get it in and i didn't really flog it after as was in peak hour (which sucks with an idle of 1200rpm)--->reset ecu in manuals don't need to be flogged....i did flog it on the mountain run-->this is why i am stoked.




ummm why did you run pipe to a hot road???????????????

wat happens is wen he is driving the cool air will rush into the pipe going directly to his air pod

what cool air is on a hot road????

what cool air is on a hot road????
When a vehicle is travelling at a higher speed, the air temp passing by drops dramatically... it's better than a hot engine bay anyhoo!!

yea right i would rather up higher near the radiator grill ...u cant tell me that the road temp is cooler on a hot qld summer day with 38 deg air temp ......try walking on the road on one of these days with no shoes on :gtfo:

yea right i would rather up higher near the radiator grill ...u cant tell me that the road temp is cooler on a hot qld summer day with 38 deg air temp ......try walking on the road on one of these days with no shoes on :gtfo:
The bloody filter doesn't drag along the ground (or run behind the car) lol

Sorry, I forgot you are always right... i better let it be ;)

But yeah you are right... higher up on the car is better... but air flow is restricted somewhat... unless you want to cut a hole in your bonnet!

in regards to the cars running rough after the battery is removed - the ECU's do need to be re-programmed but they should do this by themselves. The car might run rough for a couple of days, but it should learn as you drive and re-program itself...

Kim

yea right i would rather up higher near the radiator grill ...u cant tell me that the road temp is cooler on a hot qld summer day with 38 deg air temp ......try walking on the road on one of these days with no shoes on :gtfo:

would you prefer to be trapped in your engine bay with heat in well in excess of 100*c or outside with air due to pressure difference of about 15*c or max 38*c standstill

i hope you never drive dirt roads.. that will be shocking.. :shock:
especialy when you drive behind someone.. she will be sucking all the dust up..

would you prefer to be trapped in your engine bay with heat in well in excess of 100*c or outside with air due to pressure difference of about 15*c or max 38*c standstill
the original cai gets its air from the guard behind the head light?
so its not going to get that much hot air there anyways if you want it to get cold air theres 2 ways 1...run a 4x4 snorkel 2... run in front of the radiator

3. Custom venting?

or yes custom venting if you are willing to cut holes in body:P

trust me dude if the stock intake was efficient i wouldnt've noticed a increase in power; there is still a filter there so dirt roads which i never really travel on dont worry me.

Stock intake is as far away from engine heat as possible but still not good enough; after long trips i can now rest my hand on the throttle body no worries, before i couldnt even rest it on the filter box...
believe what you want i know im right, it just makes sense

has anyone made a tutorial or something on bypassing the throttle body collant hoses? how is it done?

Kim

has anyone made a tutorial or something on bypassing the throttle body collant hoses? how is it done?

Kim

im on it

has anyone made a tutorial or something on bypassing the throttle body collant hoses? how is it done?

Kim
Also waiting for this :).

I did the same thing to my car a month ago.

Left the original intake and drilled a 65mm diameter hole underneath just after the air box. The pipe runs all the way down the bottom just behind the front grill facing 45 degree angle down. Also put some green garden mesh to prevent crap/water going into the air box.

No big performance upgrade but it is a little louder

I've noticed when I take off hard and get close on the redline 5000-6000RPM, it makes a weird sucking noise like an intercooler about to let go...... I know it sounds stupid but its true!!
My mates hang sh!te when I tell them, but when I actually get them in my car, they look at me in pure amazement “WTF??!”. My mate who is also mechanic said it sounds like too much air is getting sucked in so all the back pressure builds up and pushes the air back out.

Sounds like a reasonable explanation…. Or something could be f***ed.

If you wanna see pictures I’ll whip out the camera when I get a chance and post it up.

yeah mine sounds like a spooling turbo, can only really hear it in first 2krpm -3500rpm. Or if its cold, first 3 gears all the way through; i love that sound....
i think the sucking sound is due to the amount of air that is getting sucked in; (breathe in with force), if it was sucking in too much it'd lean out and lose power.

nothing says unprofessional like wrinkles in your duct tape

nothing says unprofessional like wrinkles in your duct tape

thank god i didn't use that stuff! the pipe sits firmly underneath.

No offense GT, did you try using hose clamps?

i was going to melt stock intake so it was circular but cbf'd i plan to drop pod and maf sensor later on so this is a semi permanent quick fix...i just added alot of tape so no hot air could get in...

unproffessional; meh, i know how well i care for my car, my clear coat is in better condition than alot of post 2000 cars, i clean it regularly and thoroughly (leather and interior as well). Change oil etc regularly and dont go cheap with anything...every wire behind my head unit is covered in heat shrink; used or not...

I am about to relocate my battery to the LHS as I have no ABS and I have the coolant bottle from the ABS model, plenty of room.

This will allow me to make a cold air box complete with proper smooth piping.

Will post up pics when I have it all sorted

^that would be awesome, like to see it

Having a look at the set up I have to say the location of the intake is not going to allow it to do anything.....it needs to be placed in a high pressure area , typically where the spotlights are normally fitted is the most popular spot.
Good postioning will allow it to naturally make the ram effect at 80 k's and over try www.autospeed.com.au it's well worth the subscription or the back issues sub

Other than that it's good to see you making a real go of it....but keep experimenting. :cool:

pod box on engine side would be awesome, be tight on the auto's though

Today I planned to get some cold air piping running up to a POD filter. I got the POD filter in, but crikey - there is not much room to run piping! And there's even less room to make a POD box. EZ-Boy - I don't know how you're gonna do it, but it will be tight! Mines an auto and theres moving parts under the air filter box - that will make it hard to run piping on the engine side. Hmmm!

Maybe a bonnet vent is the easiest way to go...