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RessurectoR
16-08-2003, 09:09 PM
Yer, armed with a laptop and a microphone, I opened the bonnet and recorded the sound coming from the engine... in the belt area.

Listen to it and tell me wtf it is :x

http://users.bigpond.net.au/thevirus/engine.wav

alf77
16-08-2003, 09:18 PM
there were two sounds i heard. one was the normal pistons movement sound, and the other sounded as if the pistons were hitting against the mic. i would assume that the problematic sound you were talking abt is the 'sound of the pistons hitting against the mic' (what it sounded like to me). i don't know what that is. but it's in sync with the piston movements so i would reckon something inside the engine block?

why don't you bring it to a mechanic and ask for his opinion? it's an obvious problem so it wouldn't cost any money to get him to tell you what's wrong. in fact, bring it to mitsu and ask for their opininon. it's hard to tell what is exactly the problem online and the solution for it. bring it to a pro dude :D

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 08:35 AM
Is it a 4 or 6 cyl.
Man I hope your pistons are not moving as they are not meant to do that ::(((
As for the mic hitting the pistons, where the hell were you able to get a laptop with a mic that can penetrate steel, very impressive I want one.
Back to reality, the sound could be several things, if it is a 4cyl (alf that is a motor with 7 pistons lol) it could be a timing chain or balance chain. the tensioner could have come apart.
If it is a 6 cyl (again alf that is a motor with 2 pistons moving and 3 hitting the bonnet thus the mic got in the way) it could be lash adjusters, as could it be in a 4 cyl as well.
Due to the pitch of the sound which can be very deceiving listening like this it does sound either chain or valve train sort of noise.

eagleaus
17-08-2003, 08:58 AM
Sounds like a stuffed lash ajuster.My sons TM had a simular sound.Buy a mechanics stethoscope from Super Cheap or the like.Remove the air cleaner box and place the end of the stethoscope on the inlet runners as close to the head and on exhaust ports on the head.Compare them and you will find one thats for metalic in operation.

Raymond_C
17-08-2003, 01:50 PM
Yer I'm with Eagleaus, lash adjustors. My Corolla has that type of noise. Common enough problem on older cars...

alf77
17-08-2003, 01:53 PM
Is it a 4 or 6 cyl.
Man I hope your pistons are not moving as they are not meant to do that ::(((
As for the mic hitting the pistons, where the hell were you able to get a laptop with a mic that can penetrate steel, very impressive I want one.
Back to reality, the sound could be several things, if it is a 4cyl (alf that is a motor with 7 pistons lol) it could be a timing chain or balance chain. the tensioner could have come apart.
If it is a 6 cyl (again alf that is a motor with 2 pistons moving and 3 hitting the bonnet thus the mic got in the way) it could be lash adjusters, as could it be in a 4 cyl as well.
Due to the pitch of the sound which can be very deceiving listening like this it does sound either chain or valve train sort of noise.

once again, if you had read my post PROPERLY, it read 'sounded as IF'. i had no way of describing that sound. if the whole world had the same airhead reading ability as you, pistons would have read PIST-ONS.

you claimed you are 'bosch certified'. you sure you didn't misread BOSCH as BOCH, short for Brain of Camel Huba-huba?

RessurectoR
17-08-2003, 02:03 PM
I found out what it was.. the engine was bone dry :oops: I had to put 3L of oil in there before it would even show up on the dipstick :shock:

I learned my lesson, could well be that the pistons and valves and what not else are ****ed :x

Oh well... lesson learned the hard way :D

Raymond_C
17-08-2003, 02:49 PM
Wiped mains/rod bearings will be your first worry. The engine would have welded itself to a stop before other components broke.

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 04:26 PM
Alf, I assume by your nick you are 26, sure you are not 16 or a product of incest thus your brain does not engage.??? Are you in QLD or Tassie.
Anyone who fills their car by punching a hole through the side of the motor should just sit down, shut up and stick to playing with Barbie.
As for mechanical experience, I have had many years working on high performance cars as well as stock. The noise in this post was pretty spot on, the valve train will be noisy as hell so will the timing gear due to oil starvation. Just hope it was not you filling the oil.
Mate, while it is good you try and help keep in mind mis information is worse than no information as some poor person might actually believe what you say and destroy their car.
And by the way there is attached a copy of a couple of my certificates. I am assuming you can read?

alf77
17-08-2003, 04:45 PM
Alf, I assume by your nick you are 26, sure you are not 16 or a product of incest

getting by the unwritten rule are yer? well, i'm better than an imbecile like you so i shan't comment on this. i'm glad i worked you up, or should i say, down, to this level anyway


thus your brain does not engage.??? Are you in QLD or Tassie.

if there are intended connotations (which i am sure there are cos it writes very clearly my profile on the left my location in AU), i'll let the other good ppl in this forum who reside in these great states decide. :)


Anyone who fills their car by punching a hole through the side of the motor should just sit down, shut up and stick to playing with Barbie.
As for mechanical experience, I have had many years working on high performance cars as well as stock. The noise in this post was pretty spot on, the valve train will be noisy as hell so will the timing gear due to oil starvation. Just hope it was not you filling the oil.
Mate, while it is good you try and help keep in mind mis information is worse than no information as some poor person might actually believe what you say and destroy their car.
And by the way there is attached a copy of a couple of my certificates. I am assuming you can read?

haha, and what you did, putting up pics of all those useless certs of yours, it's a classic. it speaks very much for itself how you think. in any case, i've never really debated about your theories, just your ability to read properly before you shoot your trotters off on the keyboard. oh yea, if you choose to read properly again, i didn't tell the guy what to do. i made it clear i wasn't even sure what that sounded like (until you came up with a smartass idea of 'a laptop with a mic that can penetrate steel') and i told him to bring it to a pro mechanic since it's prob an obvious mechanical fault and not one of those intermittent faults. i'm not a pro and i'll be the first to admit that, not you. so to say i give information that might cause someone to destroy his car is plain misleading.

i'm not abt to embark on a meaningless flame war with you in this forum. but i do feel you should be more careful with your words cos you are far from being the best bloke in this forum, or in this world, for that matter. cheers mate.

TZABOY
17-08-2003, 04:52 PM
dude, buy the sounds of that it could almost be bye bye to that engine. Running it without oil is murder and that V6 conversion could come quicker than you think.

alf77
17-08-2003, 05:08 PM
The noise in this post was pretty spot on, the valve train will be noisy as hell so will the timing gear due to oil starvation. Just hope it was not you filling the oil.


last one i promise.

what the..? oh my god, you're a genius! only thing is, how come you didn't mention his BEFORE Vaeril said

'I found out what it was.. the engine was bone dry I had to put 3L of oil in there before it would even show up on the dipstick '

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 06:31 PM
Alf you dickhead, learn to count.
I had the third postin the topic, long before anyone besides you had said anything.
Just after the pistons left the block and slapped you in the face obviously causing brain damage, at least they would have if they hit you in the ass as it seems that is where you speak out of....
By the way, I forgot to ask before do you come from Brisbane, Tassie or Melmak, don't forget to say hi to the Tanners and leave the bloody cat alone......oh and some other aliens from melmak are still looking for you mate as they seem to think that your bottle of wonder was responsible for the destruction of your home plannet

Nomis
17-08-2003, 06:36 PM
umm whats the go with the brisbane bashing??

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 06:38 PM
[quote:1febd8133b]i'm not abt to embark on a meaningless flame war with you in this forum. but i do feel you should be more careful with your words cos you are far from being the best bloke in this forum, or in this world, for that matter. cheers mate.[/quote:1febd8133b]
I am not trying to be best or anything mate, atleast I do not have to edit 3 times to get across what I am saying and it still sounds like, well i do not know what like. My 3 year old would be better at this sort of thing than you, at least at 3 he has worked on Magna's....

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 06:39 PM
By the way, to all the other good people here, I am not brisbane bashing or Tassie bashing just dickhead bashing or as known to many "alf bashing"

RessurectoR
17-08-2003, 06:39 PM
Nice cracked bumper :lol:

Madmagna
17-08-2003, 07:43 PM
LOL not my car, just one of the guys I help out a bit. he hit a roo.

TR Steve
18-08-2003, 06:13 PM
hahahaha this is awesome.... keep going fella's

*sits down with popcorn*

Joshstarr*-TS Wagz
18-08-2003, 07:00 PM
i did the same thing! altho mine wasnt making a noise like that it was dry to.. no oil when i dipped it.. but when i started the engine then killed it i lifted the stick aagain and there was spplatters on the stick had to put over a litre before it started to soak the stick!! would i have rooted my engine or what?!

Joshstarr*