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Magna_bogan
06-06-2005, 02:13 PM
hi dudes

i think it's about time for a waterpump change after hearing funny noises and i know the belts are slipping...

anyways, i phoned mitsubishi this arvo and they qouted me $275 for a waterpump. howeber looking on ebay i found this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4549749970&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 i realised i could save $200 by buying it on ebay. it doesnt look like a geniune mitsubishi part, so there is always an unknown factor on quality, performance, etc.

what do you guys reckon? should i take the plunge and try this 3rd party pump out?

dave_au
06-06-2005, 02:36 PM
You should try and get a quality part - if not from Mitsubishi, then get a copy from a reputable parts supplier eg Repco etc, you only really want to have to remove the timing belt when its due to be replaced. If the new waterpump fails, then you will have a "degree" of warrenty, meanwhile your on your own with ebay.

Meh
06-06-2005, 03:47 PM
maybe try looking into an electronic water pump could be a cheap alternative aswell

heydude
07-06-2005, 07:15 AM
That is actually the same pump I replaced my old one with, there exactly the same as the mitsu one, just heaps cheaper, I paid $135 for mine though, so $75 is an absolute bargain, I say go for it dude. They have there own warranty on the box, I think its two years from memory.

Magna_bogan
07-06-2005, 04:53 PM
thanks for the response guys, much appreciated.

i just got a reply from the seller he mentioned that the brand of the water pump is taipan. funny thing is i gooled the brand and there isnt any informaiton on the company... perhaps "HEY DUDE" can help me on this 1.

i'd choose a original mitsu part if i had the cash...but being a uni student with no job means i have to be a tighta$$. :P

Madmagna
08-06-2005, 06:31 PM
maybe try looking into an electronic water pump could be a cheap alternative aswell

This will solve nothing whent he pump bearings collapse and the timing belt slips as it is driven by the timing belt. This also will not solve when the seals start to leak when the shaft wears from the dead bearings.

After market pumps are fine, only do not try to fir it unless you have the proper timing belt tensioning tool, you will only end up with another dead water pump

heydude
08-06-2005, 09:07 PM
I fitted up my waterpump myself with no special tool??? My gregorys manual makes no mention of any special tool, but on my old 4cyl it needed a special tool, the v6 ones just bolt straight in, there not adjustable at all, thats what the pretensioners are there for.

Magna_bogan
09-06-2005, 11:40 AM
ok, just been to my local Repco and aksed about TE waterpumps. strangely enough, the bloke over the counter said there are two types of waterpumps of te 3L V6 TE magna and asked if i knew which one was i after. :confused: :confused: :confused:

can anyone clarify?

Madmagna
10-06-2005, 05:35 PM
I fitted up my waterpump myself with no special tool??? My gregorys manual makes no mention of any special tool, but on my old 4cyl it needed a special tool, the v6 ones just bolt straight in, there not adjustable at all, thats what the pretensioners are there for.

Sorry mate wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong

if I could be bothered scanning my Gregories I would post it up here, it even has the part number. (i made mine myself)

The belt pre tensioner is not a pre tensioner, it is an auto tensioner. You need to set the correct tension and the auto tensioner then ensures as the belt streches that the tension is held.

See below
_C_TIMING BELT INSTALLATION
1. Move the timing mark of the crankshaft sprocket three`teeth to slightly lower the piston below the top dead centre
on the compression stroke of the No. 1 cylinder.
Caution
If the camshaft sprocket is rotated with the piston
at the top dead centre on the compression stroke
of the No. 1 cylinder, the valve and piston might
interfere.
2. Line up the timing marks of the left bank camshaft sprockets.
3. Line up the timing marks of the right bank camshaft sprockets.
Caution
Since the camshaft sprocket readily turns because
of spring action, use care to make sure that your
finger is not caught.
4. Line up the timing marks of the crankshaft sprockets.
5. Install the timing belt on each sprocket in the following sequence.
(1) Install the timing belt on the crankshaft sprocket and
then on the idler pulley, while tightening it to prevent
slackness.
(2) Install the timing belt on the left bank camshaft
sprocket.
(3) Install the timing belt on the water pump pulley, while
taking up the slack.
(4) Install the timing belt on the right bank camshaft
sprocket.
(5) Install the timing belt on the tensioner pulley.
6. Lightly press the tensioner pulley against the belt and temporarily tighten the centre bolt.
7. Check to see that the timing marks of all the sprockets are in alignment.
8. Using a special tool, rotate the crankshaft a quarter of a turn counter-clockwise. Then rotate it back clockwise to verify that all the timing marks are in alignment.
9. Mount a special tool and torque wrench on the tensioner pulley.
10. Torque it to 4.4 Nm with the torque wrench.
11. While holding the tensioner pulley in position, tighten the centre bolt to the specified torque.
12. Remove the metal wire inserted when the auto-tensioner was installed.
13. Rotate the crankshaft two turns clockwise and let it stand for approx. 5 minutes. In this condition, check that the projection of the rod of the auto-tensioner is within the standard value.
Standard value: 3.8 – 5.0 mm
14. Ensure the timing marks of the sprockets are still aligned correctly.

.....From the MITSUBISHI Motors Australia SERVICE AND REPAIR MANUAL

Madmagna
10-06-2005, 05:41 PM
ok, just been to my local Repco and aksed about TE waterpumps. strangely enough, the bloke over the counter said there are two types of waterpumps of te 3L V6 TE magna and asked if i knew which one was i after. :confused: :confused: :confused:

can anyone clarify?

Sorry to double quote, but different subject,
The 3.0 and the 3.5 litre motor both have the same pump. The TE 4cyl is different as is the older 12v 3.0 as in the KR/S