I have been tossing up whether to get myself some pacemaker extractors. I have searched the forums thoroughly and there seems to be some conflicting stories. I understand that they are cheap compared to others, but for a cheap extractor do they return decent results?

Yes they're worth it

for the price yes they are worth it

As the others have said.

For their price they are good.

definately worth it!

i'm floggin this thread of mine to death, but you may find it interesting lol audio inside...

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19303

How much did you guys pay for your pacemakers (if you don't mind me asking)? I was quoted $475 not including fitting. This doesn't seem that much cheaper than the rpw ones, that is if the rpw they are significantly better?

$590 fitted this weekend! I can't wait!

Quotes varied though $650-700, $780, $760. Some places were claiming pacemaker prices had gone up in price again.

driver where did u get it done??


on a 3l they sit about 1" lower than any other point on the car other than that they r a good buy

How much did you guys pay for your pacemakers (if you don't mind me asking)? I was quoted $475 not including fitting. This doesn't seem that much cheaper than the rpw ones, that is if the rpw they are significantly better?
Pacemakers can be bought for $380 and fitted for between $80 and $150 depending on your exhaust shop.

To the 3 people who said they suck.. Why dont you have the balls to post and say why they suck?

driver where did u get it done??
Men At Work Exhausts @ Capalaba. Booked it yesterday, Getting fitted this Saturday in time for the QLD dyno day the following weekend of course!

Pacemakers can be bought for $380 and fitted for between $80 and $150 depending on your exhaust shop.

To the 3 people who said they suck.. Why dont you have the balls to post and say why they suck?

$380 not including delivery if your not close to that supplier, prices have also gone up.....i payed $395 delivered from anthony but i think there just over $400 now? i wouldn't pay anymore than $140 for fitting.

oh and to add to my previous post about them being worth it.........i got 530km on my last tank of fuel(normally get about 480ish) that was driving it very hard at times too :)

RPW headers have slightly larger and longer primeries, they may be slightly more efficent and power may come on a little earlier than with pacemakers(compared to stock my car turns into an animal after 3000rpm with pacies) but when your almost redlining each gear your revs don't drop below 3500rpm anyway :nuts: so your always going to be in the "powerband" whether you have rpw or pacies...

on a 3l they sit about 1" lower than any other point on the car other than that they r a good buy

My car has the ride height of a bus (like all magna drivers i assume) :) Haven't hit the underneath yet, doubt 1" would make much of a difference. Wouldn't they be the same on a 3.5, i thought it was the same engine bored out (i'm probably very wrong). do the rpw one's sit higher from the ground? Anyone know a good exhaust place in melb? eastern suburbs if possible.

My car has the ride height of a bus (like all magna drivers i assume) :) Haven't hit the underneath yet, doubt 1" would make much of a difference. Wouldn't they be the same on a 3.5, i thought it was the same engine bored out (i'm probably very wrong). do the rpw one's sit higher from the ground? Anyone know a good exhaust place in melb? eastern suburbs if possible.

3.5l block is 18mm more on the deck for a slightly longer stroke. I know one of them sits lower than the other, I'd guess it's the 3.5 thats lower as it's slightly taller.

the pacemakers were designed for the 3.5ltr but will fit on the 3ltr, they sit lower because the 3ltr has a shorter stroke hence the exhaust ports? are lower which pushes the headers clearance height lower.... get me? probably explained it crap lol

some ppl like to "lower" there magna's for the exact reason you mentioned....ride height of a bus lol its these guys that have clearance issues(if there real low) 30mm-40mm drop all round should be fine :)

EDIT: damnit KB, i need to type faster! lol

Thanks guys, i kind of understand. Don't really know the fine details of cars, or really much about them at all. ironic really, i'm a 3rd year mechanical engineering student :confused: Btw i was also quoted 130 for a lukey LR2779. good price or not? and who is anthony

i payed $395 delivered from anthony but i think there just over $400 now?
How do i contact him? Thanks again guys

Thanks guys, i kind of understand. Don't really know the fine details of cars, or really much about them at all. ironic really, i'm a 3rd year mechanical engineering student :confused: Btw i was also quoted 130 for a lukey LR2779. good price or not? and who is anthony

How do i contact him? Thanks again guys

i'll pm ya tomorrow with some info instead of spammin this thread :)

Or go here

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28

And just post what u want and anthony will tell ya what price and if he has it.

Tom

I just bought a set of Pacemakers for my TJ Sports today, for the Pacemakers and the Gasket's it came to $409.10.

Anybody know roughly what gain's I should expect after getting them installed?

aftering fitting my pacemakers, i reckon the car has got much better top end power...

once past 3000rpm... i get that rush VTEC style... but i admit i have lost even more low end response esp compared with my parent's stock TJII LE.

time for Unichip :D and an empty wallet :cry:

Well I just got mine put on this morning and I'm quite excited now :D

Whilst it doesn't have a turbo mircile effect, the car pulls from harder from ~2500RPM now instead of the 3000RPM. Don't think I've lost low any low end, 1500-2500rpm has a nice improvement too which should be good for normal driving. It feels more responsive, partically when rolling in carparks / traffic jam speeds etc.


sola|2a, is your TJ a series one? Cause S2 got some mild 5kW engine tweak IIRC. Last QLD dyno day this was seen on the dyno low down @ 60-80k/hr speeds, the TJ2 had 1-2kw more than my TJ1. ALthough I had a Lukey and it kicked and 'won' higher up.

Well I just got mine put on this morning and I'm quite excited now :D

Whilst it doesn't have a turbo mircile effect, the car pulls from harder from ~2500RPM now instead of the 3000RPM. Don't think I've lost low any low end, 1500-2500rpm has a nice improvement too which should be good for normal driving. It feels more responsive, partically when rolling in carparks / traffic jam speeds etc.


sola|2a, is your TJ a series one? Cause S2 got some mild 5kW engine tweak IIRC. Last QLD dyno day this was seen on the dyno low down @ 60-80k/hr speeds, the TJ2 had 1-2kw more than my TJ1. ALthough I had a Lukey and it kicked and 'won' higher up.

Yea mate i have a TJI... and i am also aware of that 5kW difference... but despite this i have to be honest and say that i prefer having instant torque rather than reving out to 3000rpm +... especially given my non-tippy auto

btw, i was just wondering whether it would make any difference reset the ECU after installing the pacemakers??

hmm I'd say so - although keep driving it hard and it should relearn after a few days anyway.

Having to reprogram the stereo is such a pain anyway.

Would love it if we could get some more responses from TH owners. I have a TH sports and finding it difficult deciding if i should get the pacemaker headers. I dont want to lose any down low power. Its hard deciding to spend 600 on an upgrade when in alot of other threads people say they have lost power down low while increased a little up high. But others have said its been a good allround improvment.
If down low power has been lost by alot of TH owners, i dont think i'll get them.

-Jimbo

Well...

I just fitted pacies on my 3.0l -- I got PLENTY more down below!

Would love it if we could get some more responses from TH owners. I have a TH sports and finding it difficult deciding if i should get the pacemaker headers. I dont want to lose any down low power. Its hard deciding to spend 600 on an upgrade when in alot of other threads people say they have lost power down low while increased a little up high. But others have said its been a good allround improvment.
If down low power has been lost by alot of TH owners, i dont think i'll get them.

-Jimbo

This thread is a year old :)

From pacemakers you will gain low end response over top end. They are a tuned length design.

This thread is a year old :)

From pacemakers you will gain low end response over top end. They are a tuned length design.


Jimbo, i have a 3.5ltr TH manual and i found the opposite of what pacemaker is saying, i lost a little down low but what i gained in the mid-high range more than makes up for it.

do you wanna get paccies for fuel econ or power?

i have a TH sports....

didnt affected anything down low i think.....and yes it does rev better above 3000rpm...:D

i have a k&n pod... which which has the 'fat spot' affect.... so im pointing my finger at that...

Cheers guys, these sort of responses are what i'm after.

I'd like better fuel econ, but if it stays the same its all good. Really after a bit of a boot from 2k rev onwards. No mods to my car yet, and its a manual too BLKMAG. Right now 2-2.5k is a little slow, just want a little bit more down low in that range. If people experience no change down low, but a boot after 3k then i might just have to get them. So far thats the case. But so many other threads contradict that fact.

I've already decided against a K&N filter of anysort as there is way too much criticisim about the fat spot. Maybe when Barrys fuel system gets the green light i'll look into it.

-Jimbo

I've already decided against a K&N filter of anysort as there is way too much criticisim about the fat spot. Maybe when Barrys fuel system gets the green light i'll look into it.

-Jimbo

you're thinkin about the pod. the panel is fine

Cheers guys, these sort of responses are what i'm after.

I'd like better fuel econ, but if it stays the same its all good. Really after a bit of a boot from 2k rev onwards. No mods to my car yet, and its a manual too BLKMAG. Right now 2-2.5k is a little slow, just want a little bit more down low in that range. If people experience no change down low, but a boot after 3k then i might just have to get them. So far thats the case. But so many other threads contradict that fact.

I've already decided against a K&N filter of anysort as there is way too much criticisim about the fat spot. Maybe when Barrys fuel system gets the green light i'll look into it.

-Jimbo

The panel filter is a good cheap mod, the induction sound is great and you feel a slight difference in responsivness, you shouldn't get a flat spot from a panel(i deffinately didn't) also replace your rear muffler with a straight through unit, if you want it loud go an xforce or magnaflow, if you want nice growl when you put your foot down get a redback or something similar

yeah the xforce PT01 is on my list to get. But i've read a few threads saying the panel filter also created the fat spot. God damn it.
So far the muffler is a must, but headers and panel filter still a bit iffy.

if you want it LOUD thats the muffler for you, i have it on my car....if you haven't already, check out the link in my post on the first page of this thread

if you want it LOUD thats the muffler for you, i have it on my car....if you haven't already, check out the link in my post on the first page of this thread


Yeah i've heard it, sounds deep and tough. Not after a loud cannon. Sounds tough and quiet at idle and crusing speeds. Which is what i want as i do travel a bit on long highway trips. But is fair loud when the revs get up, which is also what i want :D

Agreed?

yeh mate, the PT01 rumbles a little at idle, rumbles a little more when cruising and is hell loud with the foot to the floor!

if thats what you want,go for it.

but remember i have paccies, it may not sound the same with just the muffler.

thats a 6x9 body right. SO would a 5x8 body be a little quieter?
Just worried PT01 could possibily be a bit too loud...

-Jimbo




wow have we gone off topic.

Seen a few posts where people have said the smaller the body, the quieter it should be. Can someone confirm?

-Jimbo

wow have we gone off topic.

Create a new thread.

As this one has come to a close.