1 x JL Audio 15" Sub = 150 Watts
2 x Boss 10" Sub = 800Watts
1 x JBL GTO Amp = 600Watts

would that work, or do i need another amp.
At the moment all thats in there is the 15" JL and the JBL GTO

The reason i ask is the big 15" is too slow for the fast bass but sweet for the long bass lines.
So i thought if i for 2 or 1 small 8/10" sub it would be better for the faster bass aswell.

ok...now you gotta give me to money and the parts for it all to get fitted in my boot eh :D

:rant:
:P
How about u go 12's instead.

Better off getting 1 good sub than 2 sh!t ones and one huge laggy one.

Whats ur budget? What music u into?

Peace

Tim

mmmmmmmmm heavy bassy rock music...godda love that stuff....

Budget???

And what else you running?

This isnt a definate yet but just seeing the possabilities.
So the budget isnt really set at the moment.
Music is anything really, but it just seems that the 15 isnt fast enough for the fast techno and some of the heavy (rammstien) stuff i listen too.

ohok then....yes all my subs arnt fast enough for my really heavy music either....nikki webster is just to HEAVY!!!!

All thats in there at the moment is the JL 15" and the JBL GTO amp.

wow...so u mean u got enough subs in ur boot to start a chemical war with iraq :shock: HOLY JEEPERS

nikki webster....wtf..

well, i have a 15" i can tell you it isn't THAT responsive, so fast bass turns into a constant ear bleeding earthquake lol

nah, well, 15" is probably ok for me, as i don't listen to hardcore stuff like rammstein.

get a 12, or 4 8" subs or 2 10s.

oh, and don't have different sized subs..thats just homo

nikki webster....wtf..

well, i have a 15" i can tell you it isn't THAT responsive, so fast bass turns into a constant ear bleeding earthquake lol

nah, well, 15" is probably ok for me, as i don't listen to hardcore stuff like rammstein.

get a 12, or 4 8" subs or 2 10s.

oh, and don't have different sized subs..thats just homo


whats wrong with nikki webster...shes hot?

nikki webster....wtf..

well, i have a 15" i can tell you it isn't THAT responsive, so fast bass turns into a constant ear bleeding earthquake lol

nah, well, 15" is probably ok for me, as i don't listen to hardcore stuff like rammstein.

get a 12, or 4 8" subs or 2 10s.

oh, and don't have different sized subs..thats just homo

Earthquake is not good. i think for the time ill just stick with my 15, and if nething else comes up ill think about it then.

And whats so bad about different sized subs?

did u steal ur subs too?......

wait a minute im not spam....oh i am...dammmit

There will always be 'wannabe' spammers, but you can't beat the L33t ub3r AM spammers :bowrofl: as defined on urbandictionary :cool:

anyways, yeah, nikki webster isn't hot. She's trying to get rid of her 'cute little girl who sang at the olympics' image, by being on the cover of FHM.

still....she'll always be that little girl, and yes, there will always be sickos who will think she's hot. I want to cut her head off, feed it to chickens and then throw her in a mulcher...

So that means what, u didnt answer nething eek.

Ud be better off with a single 12" imo. Dual 12's if need be. If you have a ported box consider running a sealed box instead.

What gear are you running...

If you are just running an amp and a sub then you wont get much sound...

Are u still running stock fronts?

If so then this might be the problem.

I see no point in having huge subs when u dont have the midbass and midrange to keep up with it. It sounds like crap. I know some people like this sound, but the reason ur bass is laggy is because it is overpowering your fronts.

Most people think they like bass. When they actually enjoy the kick of midbass. All this should be coming from ur front splits.

better off spending the money where it will see the biggest gains imho

Peace

Tim

Just installed new 6" Kenwood speaker the other day.

who is this new spamer, dude just give it up now at leasts eeks spaming is funny at times yours is just a waste of space, try hold off from hitting the post button every time you get the urge

I take it these are running off the headunit?

If so, then a 15" sub is overkill. Money spent on two more subs would be better invested in a small amp for your fronts, and some sound deadening/mdf baffles if you havent already done so.

Post full system plz...

is ur box ported? What amp? How many rms? What sub?
What splits? How much installation have u done? Or just screwed em in? What headunit? how many watts?

Soz for all the questions, but kinda go round in circles otherwise.

JL make good subs, would be a shame to see your hard earned money thrown down the drain buying crappy boss subs.

Peace

Tim

And agreed... I can handle Eeks spamming, in fact it makes me feel at home here at AMC... (So keep it up u little biatch) but wtf Waenchile? MODS!!!!

Well ill post all the specs of everything that is installed tomorrow when i wake up.
And now that i think about it, i think ill leave it how iit is neways, cus im not sure how much longer i will have this car and if its not for long then i will do all this in what eva it is that i end up with next.
But i will get all the info u need tomorrow.
Thanks in advance.

A JL 15" rated at 150WRMS????? :nuts:

I would expect such a well-built (and otherwise very heavy, expensive woofer) to be at LEAST 300WRMS.
Probably more like 400-500WRMS. May even be 600WRMS.
Tim - Whaddya reckon? Am I right?

Is that what the woofer is rated, or what you are feeding it?
If that's what you are feeding it, stop killing it by not giving it a nice fat and powerful signal, buy a 500W JL monoblock (like mine) and power it properly.
No lag then.... :badgrin:

Oh, and if it is ported, get a sealed box instead (and make sure it is hermetically sealed in). Never heard any JL sub in a well-sealed box with a decent amount of amplification that sounded laggy. 15s especially.... they should hit nice and hard with enough amp behind them.

Yes, please post your full system specs (with model numbers if known). If you need a guide, look under the audio section in my profile.

Ok here are some serious Recommendations..

1. Ditch the Kenwood Speakers and replace them with Something a little nicer like Pioneer or Clarion

2. Although the JL 15 incher is an Awesome sub it Does seem to be a little big for your goals so I would Recommend Ditching it and replacing it with Two 12 inch Subs in a Ported enclosure... Aslong as you DONT CHOOSE KENWOOD .. you will be OK .

3. have a look at your Rear speakers, are they installed properly ??
Your rears should be 6x9's and they should have been able to supply the rapid beats while your 15 incher delt with the deep stuff..

4. Get a larger more Powerfull 4 channel amp to power the Two subs, so they can have a Bridged Channel each..

5. Using mixed sized subs can lead to cancellation issues..
adding Two tens won't cure the problem unless they are of the same calibre of your 15 incher. Two 10's will bottom out before the 15 even gets warm...

1. Ditch the Kenwood Speakers and replace them with Something a little nicer like Pioneer or Clarion
I'd go for a set of splits, and allow for an amp to power them. 4x100 jaycar newie would be good, and yopu caould also amp the rear speakers with it.


2. Although the JL 15 incher is an Awesome sub it Does seem to be a little big for your goals so I would Recommend Ditching it and replacing it with Two 12 inch Subs in a Ported enclosure... Aslong as you DONT CHOOSE KENWOOD .. you will be OK .
Yeah, Magnat and I are the Kenwood Haters Club......

I'd still go for SEALED box... ported can be laggy. I must sound like a JBL evangelist, but 2x12" subs like my avatar will cost $300, sealed box to suit $150 max. $450 buxs total, power it with your JBL amp (nice)


3. have a look at your Rear speakers, are they installed properly ??
Your rears should be 6x9's and they should have been able to supply the rapid beats while your 15 incher delt with the deep stuff..
What you got in the rear? Try High-passing them with an amp at around the 100Hz mark....


4. Get a larger more Powerfull 4 channel amp to power the Two subs, so they can have a Bridged Channel each..
What happened to Bridging being the work of the devil?? Use the amp you have... it's fine for the job.


5. Using mixed sized subs can lead to cancellation issues..
adding Two tens won't cure the problem unless they are of the same calibre of your 15 incher. Two 10's will bottom out before the 15 even gets warm...
Agreed. Cancellation not so much of an issue if they are in separate boxes, in the same box is a big big no-no. Don't put 2x10s in a box with 1x15.

In fact, don't put any non-matching subs in the same box. Even same maker, different models. Only exactly the same models should be in the same box. I'd even be wary of using 1 sub that you have had for a year in a single box, then bought another one and put them both into a new box. The older speaker will be different in Thiele-Small characteristics than the new one.

for subs 2 JL W3 dual 2ohm 12" they are the go i have the dual 4ohm i wish i got the twin 2ohm subs to fill out the boot a bit more. i have clarion 6x9's and pioneer bullet splits with cadence q4000 for speakers and kicker mono block for the sub very nice clear sound and bass.

Head Unit - Pioneer DEH-1450
Cant Find Specs 45 x 4 Watt

6" Fronts - Kenwood KFC-1659S
6 Inch Dual Cone 150W Speakers, 160mm Pearl Mica Injection molded P.P. Cone Woofer, Dual Cone, Peak Power 140W, Rated Power 35W

6x9" Rears - AX 6930 - Axis Car audio or something

15" Sub - Sub Specs (http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/pdfs/15W1_BDS.pdf)

Amp - JBL GTO 4000
Amplifier audio Bus 4 channels - Power 4 X 75 Watts RMS under 2 Ohms

Head Unit - Pioneer DEH-1450
Cant Find Specs 45 x 4 Watt
Fine... it's decent.


6" Fronts - Kenwood KFC-1659S
6 Inch Dual Cone 150W Speakers, 160mm Pearl Mica Injection molded P.P. Cone Woofer, Dual Cone, Peak Power 140W, Rated Power 35W
I'm cringing. See if you can offload these to a sucker... I mean someone... lol
Or just hammer them until they smoke/smell/sound like crap.
Dunno about your budget, do for a set of splits though. I know there's an Alpine delaer in Wagga that does Alpine (I get Southern Cross TEN as well).... R-types are not quite what I would use, maybe buy some Hertz HSK's from FHRX... about the same money & a very nice speaker. Entry level Bostons are also a good choice. We are talking the $300 range here.


6x9" Rears - AX 6930 - Axis Car audio or something
I'm cringing more.This is why the bass sounds laggy... these will have no mid-bass to them at all.

Doubt you will be able to shift these. Connect them to the JBL and turn it up as loud as you can. Use them as a learning experience as to how burning voice coils smell (bad electronic acrid smell, you can't miss it!) Keep a fire extinguisher on hand when you do this.

Trade these in on a pair similar to mine. There's an Autobarn in Wagga isnt there? Pioneers or Clarions here are 200 times better than those. Alpine S-Types are another good option, as are Alpine R-Types if you have the money. It's only rear fill, but I like quite alot of it personally.


15" Sub - Sub Specs (http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/pdfs/15W1_BDS.pdf)
Still don't know what sorta box you have it in.... 45L ported? Sealed?
I told you what I think about subs, if you head up my way (Mudgee), drop in and I will give you a listen.
Also consider using the sub you have and go for a different box. If it is sealed, then a custom box might be better.
If you find a sealed 45L to laggy, maybe get a 40L box made up for it.... if you make the box smaller, it tightens up the bass a bit. Tim or Magnat will correct me if I am wrong.


Amp - JBL GTO 4000
Amplifier audio Bus 4 channels - Power 4 X 75 Watts RMS under 2 Ohms
Keep the JBL... it's good. Get rid of the other one to the same sucker that goes for the Kenwoods ideally.
Run front splits and rear 6x9's off a 4x100WRMS jobbie.. maybe Jaycar's new 4x100WRMS fits the bill.

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What every you do, do not mix different sized subs in the one boot.
You need to know that if you do this you will actually reduce the loudness of the whole set up. Having two diffferent sized subs (even two different brands of same size) is stupid. As the subs have a different cone excursion length it affects the sound wave pulse length in the boot, this comined with different subs with different wave highs and lows creates interferance.
i.e you will created anti-nodes with different sized subs. Just think about it in terms of physics, it just dont make sence.

I wanted to do the same thing with my set up 2 10' and 1 12', my audio pro guy strongly warned me againce it. I can stress enough how bad this would be. Please do not waist your money.

SUBishi

sub is in a sealed box.

Your Ideal Setup.. Would be
Head unit: Leave it , Pioneers Entry level is a good sounding Deck
Fronts: Herts DSK 6.5 inch Splits ( Just ask FHRX how much they are I think you will be suprised)

Rears: HertZ DSK 6x9 3-ways

Amp: upgrade to a Bigger 4-channel Amp..

Subs : JBL or Pioneer 12 inch Subs in an enclosure of your choice..

Yes, I like the JBL subs.. just ask anyone on here... :D

Nice avatar Magnat....