When i was in vic park mitsubishi today saw this beautiful red ralliart!
I almost died at the price $35,999!!!!!!!with 14,000 on the clock.TipTronic though but still good!.Was in excellent condition,of course!Then i go over the road and take a look at a black ralliart,also tiptronic which to my amazement was $40,999,and on the price tag it said it was "performance enhanced" 180kwatzz.Then right next to it was a VR-X for $36,000 WTF??? is going on?????since when is a vr-x MORE than a ralliart????Are'nt ALL Ralliart magnas meant to be 180 kwattz???So if any1 here could give us an idea why the red ralliart did'nt have this description too would help(maybe pulled out the performance chip???)Here's a pic of a white ralliart,but just think of it as red :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are they both from the same dealership? If not, it's just advertising ploy used on that cars.. All Ralliart Magnas are rated 180kws but I've seen some that are "Enhanced" to Ralliart Versions but are actually the base executive models... So look out for "Imitations"

CHEERS

How can u tell they are imitations anyway?This 1 looked genuine enough i think.The black 1 was from the new side and the red ralliart was on the used side,but still the sam dealership any way
Strange considering the black 1 only did 2,000 k's less than the red 1.

How can u tell they are imitations anyway?This 1 looked genuine enough i think.The black 1 was from the new side and the red ralliart was on the used side,but still the sam dealership any way
Strange considering the black 1 only did 2,000 k's less than the red 1.

there will be a Ralliart build plate on it somewhere.... and there are quite a few differences inside as well... ralliart specific bits and pieces.... there is bound to be somewhere that will tell you want the differences are....... (hey blake isnt that your job!

I hate the front ends of the Ralliart.

The wheels dont do much for them either..

Yeah yeah.. theyre ENKI .. theyre ENKI :roll:

Hi I might be able to shed some light on the cheap ralliart Magnas. Just a little while ago a heap of evaluation vehicles, yes the cars that would be given to the press came up for sale at auction. The oldest one the was plated late 2001. Most of these cars had about the 15000 km on them but hey were not easy km.
I sell new Mitsubishi's and was lucky to be a Ralliart Salesman we cained the hell out of these cars.
At this point you cant buy some of the bits unless you can give a body number similar to HSV clubies used to be?

[quote:2597ce2ef9]At this point you cant buy some of the bits unless you can give a body number similar to HSV clubies used to be?[/quote:2597ce2ef9]

Yeah and that is rather easy to do, especially when you are a Ralliart dealer. The car vin though has to be off a car that is registered on the road, if it's a showroom car it will still show up. Heck my boss drives one rather easy to get a vin.

Of course don't mean the parts will be in Australia.

We have a couple of second hand ones around the $36,000-39,000 mark and they are not press cars.

Hey MagnaArt I also saw the white & black one today at Skippers. They also have a red one with a sunroof....I did like the sunroof...looked really sporty !

A mate of mine which works for mitsi was telling me how mitsi isnt selling alot of ralliarts, there is heaps of them stocked up where they keep the cars at the plant at Melrose Park, and ive been told they are giving em to their engineers etc

bastards :lol:

A mate of mine which works for mitsi was telling me how mitsi isnt selling alot of ralliarts, there is heaps of them stocked up where they keep the cars at the plant at Melrose Park, and ive been told they are giving em to their engineers etc

bastards :lol:

My friend who works for DaimlerChrysler which owns a part of Mitsu tells me that there are sooooo many Ralliart Magnas that they are being used as company cars

letting the ralliarts be used as 'company' cars could also be a marketing stragety on its own. think about it. more on road = public awareness = possible enquires that lead to sales??

that could also be the reason for that.

oh, plus mistu did a sh1t job advertising the ralliart. to be quiet honest, if i didnt read it in mags, i dont even think i wouldof know it existed :shock:

i dont reacall, seeing one tv ad, one newspaper ad, or any sort of ad! not even in the motoring mags :shock: :oops:

naughty MMAL :!:

they had full page adds in the sunday mail here.
just as they have multiple full page adds for the TL

Tim

hmm, i wouldnt mind trading in the rallipaj...

ive seen a couple of ralliart's damn they're good looking cars

Hey MagnaArt I also saw the white & black one today at Skippers. They also have a red one with a sunroof....I did like the sunroof...looked really sporty !

Hey man!Have'nt seen u much ay!Yeh that red 1 with the sunroof has now gone down to $34,990!!!What a bargain wit only 13,000 on the clock :D :D

Mitsu's marketing is shithouse. I hardly ever see that TV ad for the TL VRX anymore. I never saw any advertising for the Ralliart Magna. I am still yet to see any decent advertising about the AWD (what the hell is with the TJ AWD on a Superglue pack - not effictive imho). And I'm still not seeing enough advertising for the TL, no matter what people think of it.

Mitsubishi wonders why people arnt flocking to their showrooms. The real reason is that not many people are aware what they have.

I agree Narkus...I went down with a mate to skippers. My mate is looking at buying a new Ralliart, they didnt even have a BROUCHER on the ralliart...is this too much to ask? disappointed !!! :cry: after I was telling my mate how good mitsi are !

I walked into Holden and was given shit loads of brouchers

Yeh sounds like Mitsi better get their act together :cry:
Would help a bit if they had lots of info on their Top-of-the-crop Magna
Tiz diasappointing when u hear of stories like this :?

Here's a couple of pics i took tonight of the Red Ralliart for $34 grand 8)

I agree Narkus...I went down with a mate to skippers. My mate is looking at buying a new Ralliart, they didnt even have a BROUCHER on the ralliart...is this too much to ask? disappointed !!! :cry: after I was telling my mate how good mitsi are !

I walked into Holden and was given shit loads of brouchers

mmm.. what is Broucher? I know what a brochure is.

I think the Ralliart people always held back on the brochures. So pimply faced teenagers having a wet dream look at their dream car didn't clean them out of brochures in the first month. You only got one if the dealer thought they were close to a sale.??? :)

Well I am far (29) from a pimple faced teenager and so is my mate (32). We are also seroius buyers....the issue here is, that pimple faced teenagers dont even now these car exist !

Well said Mr.Black :D :D
Dun think u were too pimply the last time i saw ya hey man :D :D :D

Thanks Craig

N.P. man :D
Hope ta c ya and the BlackBeast on the next cruze dude 8) 8)

the mitsu dealer i went to in bris had a big stand with info and brouchres (i know i cant spell). and the ralliart guy had his own desk and computer with a ralliart sticker on it away from every1 else, like he was better then the lancer salespeople.

i was telling him bout AM when i was trying to get a drive of the ralliart (didn't work) and his like "yeah the vrx i own is nice but it doesn't have the go" and i'm like "actually, u suck cuz they do have balls u just cant drive" HAHAHAHAHAHA he was a fool.

Tim

the mitsu dealer i went to in bris had a big stand with info and brouchres (i know i cant spell). and the ralliart guy had his own desk and computer with a ralliart sticker on it away from every1 else, like he was better then the lancer salespeople.

i was telling him bout AM when i was trying to get a drive of the ralliart (didn't work) and his like "yeah the vrx i own is nice but it doesn't have the go" and i'm like "actually, u suck cuz they do have balls u just cant drive" HAHAHAHAHAHA he was a fool.

Tim

Did that Guy REELY say that????And did You REALLY say that ?????
I would have pissed myself if i was there :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

his was a quote, from his mouth to my ears, to my fingers, to ur eyes. what i said was pretty much right, it went along the lines, u mustn't know how to drive it cuz it'll whoop vx's.

reckoned the only time it won a race was when his wife was driving and he wasn't in the car, she'd come home and be all excited "i just beat a vt commie" and he'd be "ummm, no u didnt"

he really was an idiot (i hope he its on these forums :o )

Tim

N.P. man :D
Hope ta c ya and the BlackBeast on the next cruze dude 8) 8)

Yeh mate def will be on the next cruize...I hope it is soon thou, as I have a very very busy travel schedule over the next 3 months....so one in the next two weeks would be ideal !!! hint hint

Yeh hopin to have a cruze pretty soon too 8) Need to Get more an more Magna's Along too,so any1 from Dubble Ya Ay come along 8)

Millart85:

did you tell this guy that theres a Gold Magna on the otherside of the boarder that would rape a Ralliarts' Arse :lol:

Millart85:

did you tell this guy that theres a Gold Magna on the otherside of the boarder that would rape a Ralliarts' Arse :lol:

What are your specs?

1. kw @ wheels
2. Kw @ flywheel
3. 0 to 400m time and 0 to 100k's time.
4. top speed you have done


thanks. :)

What are your specs?

1. kw @ wheels
2. Kw @ flywheel
3. 0 to 400m time and 0 to 100k's time.
4. top speed you have done


thanks. :)

check booya's post history.....

[quote:70b020dc4c="CanberraVR-X"]
What are your specs?

1. kw @ wheels
2. Kw @ flywheel
3. 0 to 400m time and 0 to 100k's time.
4. top speed you have done


thanks. :)

check booya's post history.....[/quote:70b020dc4c]


Even better.. check this... http://www.wycliffe.com.au/private/bens_magna/mycar/mycar_home.htm

240 he claims he's done in NT (with the Haltech)
182 kw @ flywheel Est.
136kw @ wheels
1/4 mile or 400m guesses 14.5

reckons apart from the Haltech and exhaust, brake and other minor mods, the engine is stock 3.0 litre! :)

Nice unit, Booya! :D :) :p

Rallyarts have LSD, i reckon it would beet booya to a hundred... loss of traction, so its not the motor, because if he had LSD too it would be fair.

UPDATE!!!
The Red Ralliart is gone so i am presuming it has been sold to sum lucky dude!
Congratulations,to the guy who bought it,if u do come on these forums,i ENVY u :lol: :lol:

When ever you guys go to car yards to see Ralliarts, slip an Aussie Magna details card in the glove box. the new owner will know what to do :P

hahha nice idea narkus that's if they'll even give ya a test in it though 8)

UPDATE!!!
The Red Ralliart is gone so i am presuming it has been sold to sum lucky dude!
Congratulations,to the guy who bought it,if u do come on these forums,i ENVY u :lol: :lol:

Forget about that 1
it's actually gone DOWN to 32 grand!
There hassss to be sumthing wrong with it :roll: :roll: :roll:

There's one with 3700ks on the clock looks in nice condition, Silver with RalliArt Stickers on the sides. No dints or scratches that I could see.
$38,990 DRIVE AWAY with $1000 worth of free fuel.
Looks alright..

SuFz :evil:

this 1 had round 14-1500km on the clock plus it had an electric sunroof which is like another $3800 when it was produced!!! :D

Sunroof are an additional $1800 ...nice optional extra 8)

yeh would'nt be a bad extra!Even though the whole car is hella mint anyways! 8) 8)

yeh would'nt be a bad extra!Even though the whole car is hella mint anyways! 8) 8)

mate, let me tell you, it absolutely ****in rocks :D
oh yeah and i do like the sunroof too :)

[quote:5cac19ceee="MethoD"]A mate of mine which works for mitsi was telling me how mitsi isnt selling alot of ralliarts, there is heaps of them stocked up where they keep the cars at the plant at Melrose Park, and ive been told they are giving em to their engineers etc

bastards :lol:

My friend who works for DaimlerChrysler which owns a part of Mitsu tells me that there are sooooo many Ralliart Magnas that they are being used as company cars[/quote:5cac19ceee]

Damm! Sent them to the states; they'd sell the sh*t out of them.

just a quick questions how much are they NEW??

The last of them are $41990 + on roads that vary between states

Hi Magnart,

I bought my Ralliart new from Skipper Mitsubishi in August 2003. If you have been looking in the new car showroom you must have seen it - pewter manual with sunroof.

I drove that baby away with 50Kms on the clock for $39,500 including on road costs. Considering the list price was $48,990 + $1,850 for the sunroof + on roads, I reckon I did very well.

I have since moved to South Australia. Unfortunately the roads here are no match for Perth with regards to condition and the ability to just get up and cruise. Red lights and spoon drains everywhere. I really miss the freeway and the Polly Farmer tunnel.

I have a couple of very reliable senior sources inside Mitsubishi who gave me the lowdown on what happened to the Ralliart project:

"The Ralliart was a poor seller due to lack of marketing funds. The ralliart project was greenlighted on the basis that the business plan could at least break even. A plan was submitted and signed off that did just that, but it did not include any money towards marketing. Therefore the car was not advertised or launched in any way to the general public, and sales results were way below expectations. Mitsubishi planned to build and sell 1000 per year, and after the first 9 months had sold approx 250".

Mitsubishi were stuck with heaps of them lined up at the factory until just recently. Now just about all of them have been leased to employees as company cars. So over the next three to six months there will be many low kilometre Ralliarts leaving Mitsubishi as the fleet gets turned over. I believe the general public can access these cars through their local dealerships. The cars get fully checked out and refurbished prior to delivery. They come with a full 3 year warranty too. If you want me to find out more, I will ask my source inside Mitsubishi.

As for the AWD's lack of market prescence, I was told that it came out 6 months behind schedule. This placed its launch only six weeks before the scheduled run out of the TJ model. As such it was decided to hold off any advertising of AWD until the new model came out.

Cheers,

Mark

I reckon I could grab a loan for a cheapish ~$30,000 Ralliart... reckon they'll be sold of around that price?

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.dealer_results?price_min=&price_max=&category_id=1&make_id=3&model_id=4130&badge_id=&keyword=&state_id=-1&selected_region=0&region_id=&search_postcode=&search_distance=50&segment_id=&body_id=&km_min=&km_max=&year_min=&year_max=&door_num=&cs_trans_id=&cylinder_num=&engine_low=&engine_high=

Try another 10k on your budget :(

Guys,

i believe that when the Mitsubishi company vehicle Ralliarts get sold they should go for around $30k with anything up to 25,000 Kms on the clock.

Cheers,

Mark

Guys,

i believe that when the Mitsubishi company vehicle Ralliarts get sold they should go for around $30k with anything up to 25,000 Kms on the clock.

Cheers,

Mark

You can buy em for 30k now bud :)

Dont need to be an ex company leased car :)

Hi Magnart,

I bought my Ralliart new from Skipper Mitsubishi in August 2003. If you have been looking in the new car showroom you must have seen it - pewter manual with sunroof.

I drove that baby away with 50Kms on the clock for $39,500 including on road costs. Considering the list price was $48,990 + $1,850 for the sunroof + on roads, I reckon I did very well.

I have since moved to South Australia. Unfortunately the roads here are no match for Perth with regards to condition and the ability to just get up and cruise. Red lights and spoon drains everywhere. I really miss the freeway and the Polly Farmer tunnel.

I have a couple of very reliable senior sources inside Mitsubishi who gave me the lowdown on what happened to the Ralliart project:

"The Ralliart was a poor seller due to lack of marketing funds. The ralliart project was greenlighted on the basis that the business plan could at least break even. A plan was submitted and signed off that did just that, but it did not include any money towards marketing. Therefore the car was not advertised or launched in any way to the general public, and sales results were way below expectations. Mitsubishi planned to build and sell 1000 per year, and after the first 9 months had sold approx 250".

Mitsubishi were stuck with heaps of them lined up at the factory until just recently. Now just about all of them have been leased to employees as company cars. So over the next three to six months there will be many low kilometre Ralliarts leaving Mitsubishi as the fleet gets turned over. I believe the general public can access these cars through their local dealerships. The cars get fully checked out and refurbished prior to delivery. They come with a full 3 year warranty too. If you want me to find out more, I will ask my source inside Mitsubishi.

As for the AWD's lack of market prescence, I was told that it came out 6 months behind schedule. This placed its launch only six weeks before the scheduled run out of the TJ model. As such it was decided to hold off any advertising of AWD until the new model came out.

Cheers,

Mark
Thanx for the info man!
Good job on ur buy aswell!
They probably should have really pushed to get the ralliart on the market,considering it's Magna's flagship/Best model they have,i really don't justify Why they did'nt :?:
Oh well,they're mint cars and if there were more around,then they'd have a good presence/image against commodores and falcons top range too 8)
Oh well,tis all good,thanx again 4 the info,sounds like S.A. aint that good ay 8)

Really?? That Carsales link that Killbilly posted shows about 10 vehicles all over $35K. Where have you seen them for $30K?

Mark

seen several ralliarts in the papers/dealers (melb mostly) over the last few weeks for around $31 or $32 ... with only 8,000 to 12,000 k's on em.

i've heard the same story as Mark... that they had a whole warehouse of em that they couldnt sell... so they gave them all to employees as packaged lease cars for peanuts....

and its those ones coming onto the market now... with stuff all k's on em.

Odd results is they often advertising for cheaper than vrx' and even some awd sports !!!

WSDsmurf.
(i wonder if u could put a ralliart engine in a awd..... ?)

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=1760961&current_rec=2&total_rec=11&sort_type=1&make_id=3&model_id=4130&state_id=-1&search_distance=50

7000km and 31k

I dont think they can put the ralliart engine in the AWD coz the drive train couldnt handle the power.

why r all these old posts getting dug up!

All the comments seem about right.

What i think it means for me is less of them on the road, more exclusitivity for me and in the long run, better resale value as people realise how good they actually are for the price.

There's a silver ralliart for $29000 ($28990 psycological bit) at Blue Ribbon Motors (Mitsu Dealer Ipswich QLD) with 28000Kms and it's a manual, haven't seen it yet it was in this morning Queensland Times paper.
I have seen it now and I WANT IT :badgrin: .

']why r all these old posts getting dug up!

lol ... old posts r the best posts :P

and Ralliart prices are ALWAYS a current topic :P (espec if they keep dropping like this!... could u have ever imagined 12 month old Ralliarts in the $20's !!!)

WSDsmurf

I Brought mine 4 $36000 brand new from the Adelaide car show.. oops..

i bought mine for 39000 witha 14000 trade on a 97vt com.

there is one on milton road for 35000 but he only paid 27000 and he hates it, so he wants to get rid of it. i was looking at another to buy.
and if you go to any diamond dealer they can get any ralliart from across aust. on there computer at the click of a thumb.

and to let anybody know how to tell a true ralliart. there is a number on the front left of your engine bay. and the huge ralliart sign on the head it's self, and the seats, and the momo steering wheel, and the ralliart tacho and instruments.

Im thinking about getting ralliart!

Is it better in tiptronic or Manual?

reasons why appreciated ...thanks