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TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 06:51 AM
OK, mods to date so far.

Exhuast - 2 1/2 cat back system, custom rear half
Short shifter
K&N Pod Filter

Ordered oversize throttle body today.

Lowered
19" Rims

Without spending big bucks yet, what does everyone recommend for smaller mods?

Planning the Unichip computer for a later date.

Ran a 15.6 on Sunday, but the car sprung and oil leak and i couldn't get back on the track, it would have run a bit lower, but i want some more go before i head up again to 2 weeks.

gremlin
27-06-2005, 07:16 AM
OK, mods to date so far.

Exhuast - 2 1/2 cat back system, custom rear half
Short shifter
K&N Pod Filter

Ordered oversize throttle body today.

Lowered
19" Rims

Without spending big bucks yet, what does everyone recommend for smaller mods?

Planning the Unichip computer for a later date.

Ran a 15.6 on Sunday, but the car sprung and oil leak and i couldn't get back on the track, it would have run a bit lower, but i want some more go before i head up again to 2 weeks.


Mate, id say the best way to get your time down is to run again a few times. That car is capable of a 15.0 without trying real hard.... Besides that, have you got a CAI setup?

driver
27-06-2005, 07:17 AM
Extractors would be next.

KING EGO
27-06-2005, 07:21 AM
Yeah you shouldnt have a drama getting an 15.0 or into the 14`s..


Ive got manual VRX will silly muffler on the rear and loosing back pressure and a haltech computer which is giving me 5kw atw above standard and the best ive run was a 14.686..

It comes down to your driving too..

Goodluck.. :D

TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 08:27 AM
NO CAI Yet,

I reakon I could've gotten a 15.00 if the car hadn't started leaking oil, getting the TB done this week and should be up in the next 2 weeks for some more practice.

Gunna get a set of 15's and some racing slicks too.

Asylum
27-06-2005, 08:35 AM
the difference between a set of 17's - 19's could easily be 1/2 a second right there

Arcane
27-06-2005, 08:37 AM
How many kw have you got at the wheels - just out of curiosity :)

TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 08:46 AM
Hasn't been dyno'd yet, do all that when i get the Unichip

Delphia
27-06-2005, 08:58 AM
Fit a CAI and extractors. if you have the cash ECU.

Also if your realy serious about cutting some seriously fast times in a N/A magna keep an eye on the RPW Intake Manifold with ram tubes.

I agree with Asylum tho, set of steel wheels and some grippy tyres would be a good start too.

TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 09:15 AM
Definates,

CAI
Throttle Body
15" with good slicks


Keeping a close on the the new Manifolds, but I should get the Unichip first

Asylum
27-06-2005, 09:27 AM
Definates,

CAI
Throttle Body
15" with good slicks


Keeping a close on the the new Manifolds, but I should get the Unichip first

gains from CAI and T/B are only minor, i'd get the unichip/greddy last, then u can final tune it to all the mods, instead of constantly changing it to suit each small mod.

i probably wouldn't bother with slicks, (not sure on price, but i'd say they'd be dear!!) i'd look into getting some 15-16" mags that are about 7-8" wide and find some really nice 235's to go with them, at least then u can use them on the odd cruise/hill climb etc

TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 09:59 AM
gains from CAI and T/B are only minor, i'd get the unichip/greddy last, then u can final tune it to all the mods, instead of constantly changing it to suit each small mod.

i probably wouldn't bother with slicks, (not sure on price, but i'd say they'd be dear!!) i'd look into getting some 15-16" mags that are about 7-8" wide and find some really nice 235's to go with them, at least then u can use them on the odd cruise/hill climb etc

Yeah, do the Unichip last, one thing you know from little power increases is when you do 3 or 4, you notice the difference....

Get slicks, few guys here at Fast Forward Motors are into racing, so nothings done half-arsed when I get the manager to organize stuff for me!

Delphia
27-06-2005, 10:14 AM
Keeping a close on the the new Manifolds, but I should get the Unichip first
Id say take out a small bank loan and get it all at once, that way you only pay for one fitment session and one tune :D
But im not spending my own money here :P

gremlin
27-06-2005, 10:37 AM
the difference between a set of 17's - 19's could easily be 1/2 a second right there

I ran 14.9 on 19s in my manual sports with only mod being rear muffler swap.. so 19s shouldnt matter

TJ VRX
27-06-2005, 10:38 AM
Got a workshop in Clayton, I don't pay for fitment

Bain
27-06-2005, 11:26 AM
OK, mods to date so far.

Exhuast - 2 1/2 cat back system, custom rear half
Short shifter
K&N Pod Filter

Seeing as you dont have a CAI setup, if you returned back to your stock panel filter you would be running 15.0

PODs are useless unless you have a proper cai setup for it.

Ralliart Boy
27-06-2005, 11:41 AM
The pod is probably useless without a proper cold air intake but it isnt going to make any power difference by leaving that or reverting pack to the stock panel filter.

Leave the pod on, looks good, sounds even better.

Bain
27-06-2005, 11:47 AM
The pod is probably useless without a proper cold air intake but it isnt going to make any power difference by leaving that or reverting pack to the stock panel filter.

Leave the pod on, looks good, sounds even better.Well thats where youre wrong, of course its going to make a difference, hot air will cause lag and sluggishness of acceleration, especially when its sucking in air directly off the engine, 0.5 seconds could easily be gained by sticking on the other filter and sucking air in from outside the engine bay area.

Hes wanting better times, not looks or sound...

Tim-E
27-06-2005, 12:26 PM
id agree with what you are saying Bain, but the stock snornkel with stock panel isnt exactly too crash hot when it comes to sucking in cold air either, so i dont doubt it would make a difference, but i do doubt it would be 0.5 seconds just cos of that. However, going from his setup now to a full CAI setup running to his pod (ie, EZ BOY's), that wouldnt surprise me if it knocked off 0.5 a second alone!

I knocked off 0.25 seconds just by changing my intake to my K&N panel filter from the snock snorkel to 90mm PVC piping coming from the bottom of the bumper.

Delphia
27-06-2005, 12:34 PM
Grab a K&N Panel filter as a short term solution. you wont be sucking hot air from the bay as much but still get increased flow.

When your done with it, hock it off in the for sale section.

(EDIT: Or buy EZboys pod box setup)

Bain
27-06-2005, 03:13 PM
id agree with what you are saying Bain, but the stock snornkel with stock panel isnt exactly too crash hot when it comes to sucking in cold air either, so i dont doubt it would make a difference, but i do doubt it would be 0.5 seconds just cos of that. However, going from his setup now to a full CAI setup running to his pod (ie, EZ BOY's), that wouldnt surprise me if it knocked off 0.5 a second alone!

I knocked off 0.25 seconds just by changing my intake to my K&N panel filter from the snock snorkel to 90mm PVC piping coming from the bottom of the bumper.Only reason i say half a second is there is no power down low with a non CAI pod. Even after 3500rpm where it starts to come on the power is still going to be down.

With the stock intake my car improved dramatically from the POD in the engine bay and i had alot more low end response. If he wants to improve his times he needs to improve his 60 foot time. This is where he will be losing quite a bit.

Im thinking his 60 foot times are something like 2.5 - 3.0

My tiptronic VRX was pulling 15.5 1/4miles with extractors and a catback exhaust and stock filter. The Manual is at least 0.5 seconds quicker.

BLKMAG
27-06-2005, 05:00 PM
the quickest totally stock VRX ran a 14.8?.... so work off of that.

i ran a 15.3 on a fairly hot day in my stock 147kw TH exec.....

Delphia
27-06-2005, 05:33 PM
Id realy like to get a time for the quarter time for my KS before I even touch the suspension. before i even fix my fuel problems. atm id be suprised if it flew under 20 :confused:

green
28-06-2005, 02:40 AM
my mate has those 19" pro-v rims on his BA XR falcon and I can assure u they are friggin heavy...so get some lighter rims as this is probably the main reason your car is so slow...some suggestions for super light rims are SSR Competition, Enkei RPF1, and there are many others... check out www.wheelweights.net for an idea...
Also many ppl like to talk about minor power ups like extractors etc...but this is all useless if u can't put power to the ground properly as in ALL two wheel drive cars with open diffs front or rear wheel drive. So get an LSD as well....then forced induction...and head back to the drags for some less embarrasing numbers....

KING EGO
28-06-2005, 06:36 AM
I dont think your rims are the problem.. If you have only put it down the strip once than do it a few more times, Then if your not happy look at why from there.. Its a bit hard to judge off one and only run..


Then again first time i went out i pulled a 14.9 first ever run out of stock VRX then got 4 x 15sec passes for the rest of the night as i fried the clutch.. lol lol

Redav
28-06-2005, 07:42 AM
If he wants to improve his times he needs to improve his 60 foot time. This is where he will be losing quite a bit.
Agreed. The 60' time is the area where the right hardware can have the most effect and the wrong hardware will loose time more at that point than the gain it sees elsewhere.

n0fy
28-06-2005, 06:27 PM
I agree with Bain. I noticed a difference between pod and snorkel. Car was noticably more sluggish with just the pod on. CAI with pod was a different story. :D