View Full Version : Fuel saving device increase KW
kewlsolara
05-07-2005, 06:43 PM
Did some one watch today tonight , today ???
This fuel saving device called "Fitch" increase fuel economy and save $$, they also did a Dyno test on an old Toyota Surf (1990 or so model) and said it increased the power from 63kw to Aprox 70 kw.
http://www.fitchcatalyst.com.au/
"The RACV said you can save $500 a year just by keeping your car well maintained, keeping your tyres properly inflated and by avoiding excessive speeds.
If you are keen on the Fitch, it does come at a price. Owners of four cylinder cars can expect to pay $200, while those with six to eight cylinder cars pay a little extra at $385."
Does any one has this on their car ???
oh dear u read my mind :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
i watched it too, and was wondering how long it would take for someone to post it up here....
personally i think its a load of crap. How do u bolt something up on ur fuel line and magically gives u better economy? why don't they process the fuel with this product at the refineries? :confused:
my old man has one actually...not hte same thing, but its asian and u bolt it up to ur fuel line somewhere....
Zaphod
05-07-2005, 06:50 PM
I just happened to notice that Sarras has one on his car..
I just happened to notice that Sarras has one on his car..
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
SARRAS, dude, I've noticed you have A LOT of weird little mods all over ur car!!
I hate all this stuff. It sounds like crap, people say it's crap, but the supporting company's "evidence" often sounds decent. There's just too much rubbish being sold to make a good decision. Disregarding any idea or product that is unconventional is not the true answer because everything is unconventional until it becomes normal.
Ralliart Boy
05-07-2005, 07:37 PM
got to make you think though, it was dyno proven un;ess they did some dodgy things off camera
then again, all the dudes that were using them were in their 90's, how can they judge a power increase !!!
VR-X II
05-07-2005, 07:44 PM
Go to the Fitch site, go to 'Terms and Conditions', and read paragraph 6.
And wow, only $680 for one to suit my car!
Hmmmm, Ported & Polished heads ($500) plus $180 left in spare change to spend on whatever (petrol?) OR, a glorified baked bean tin..
Think of it this way: just a simple, professional P & P could, potentionally, yield a 20% increase in FL kWs, as well as fuel economy gains. So, that could mean that you get better fuel economy AND, in the case of a 150kW car, power could move on up to the 180kW mark...stock RalliArt territory!
Okies, I do recognise that many Club members are concerned more with fuel economy than performance. Understandable; especially in these crazy fuel-price days. :shock:
However, due to the way paragraph 6 is worded :doubt:, I'd be more inclined to spend money on improving the performance of the car - regardless of whether its spent on true mods or - just a really good service and tune-up! :thumbsup:
VR-X II
Go to the Fitch site, go to 'Terms and Conditions', and read paragraph 6...'nough said!
VR-X II
hahah :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
on today tonight, they had a pic of the guy's landcruiser on the dyno....
as for dyno though, you can't really exactly measure fuel economy, coz the car's not really driving. Its sitting on some rollers, while some dude's there pumping hte throttle away, whereas in real life there are dynamics involved :fruitcake eh, i dunno, i wouldn't put one in my car
Matthius
05-07-2005, 08:22 PM
hahah :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
on today tonight, they had a pic of the guy's landcruiser on the dyno....
as for dyno though, you can't really exactly measure fuel economy, coz the car's not really driving. Its sitting on some rollers, while some dude's there pumping hte throttle away, whereas in real life there are dynamics involved :fruitcake eh, i dunno, i wouldn't put one in my car
On a diesel it's easy to measure fuel economy changes on the dyno :) but on the flip side, We've had people try to sell us these and or get us to market them but we(where I work) said no :P there a cannister that basically lets tin/lead off as the fuel goes past therefore making your fuel leaded again - how the **** there legal I dunno.
Matthius
Blur!
05-07-2005, 10:06 PM
If any of these fuel saving devices were so good, car manufacturers would be using them on their cars..... :eh:
Sharkie
05-07-2005, 10:43 PM
I just happened to notice that Sarras has one on his car..
I have that too
SARRAS
06-07-2005, 06:03 AM
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
SARRAS, dude, I've noticed you have A LOT of weird little mods all over ur car!!
Do I? Heavens... what COULD I be up to?!
Yeah I have a Fitch and as far as I recall its made a minor difference to the fuel consumption. What it DOES do best is keep your fuel system free of bacteria and sludge and varnish - which is the junk that clogs up your injectors and makes your oil go black etc. So its good at maintaining the fuel system in peak condition as such - which is why its good for performance as things like gunked up injectors, tarred plugs and sludged oil don't help the KW output at all.
KING EGO
06-07-2005, 06:37 AM
SARRAS, dude, I've noticed you have A LOT of weird little mods all over ur car!!
Thats just our mate larry.. we love him for it.. :D :D :D
waenchile
19-07-2005, 08:37 PM
weird.....i thought in reality its impossible for somthing to give you more power and better economy at the same time...weird
magnus
20-07-2005, 06:14 PM
repco sell the same type of thing all thats in it is tin lead and nickle you can also get another thing that clips over fuel line. i think they are a waist of money get more responce out of octain boot additives
Redav
20-07-2005, 07:04 PM
weird.....i thought in reality its impossible for somthing to give you more power and better economy at the same time...weird
Why not? Dyno tunes do this. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Zaphod
20-07-2005, 07:44 PM
weird.....i thought in reality its impossible for somthing to give you more power and better economy at the same time...weird Actually they're very often found together. Obviously any engine needs to use fuel to make power, and generally the more power it makes, the more fuel it uses to make that power. However, you don't use all the power of your engine all the time.
Consider this: Say a particular car/engine combination requires say, 30Kw to maintain a constant 100Km/h speed (the same applies to acceleration, but the illustration is simpler this way.) If you give the engine more power across the whole rev range, it means it will make that 30Kw lower in the rev range, and will maintain that same 100Km/h easier and with a lighter throttle application. Thus, it will use less fuel. Of course this is simplistic, and there are exceptions, but that's the general idea.
As for the Fitch device, I haven't seen much about it or seen any independant tests, but I really doubt it could be beneficial, just from creating a 'tornado effect' in the intake.
cthulhu
20-07-2005, 07:49 PM
...and generally the more power it makes, the more fuel it uses to make that power.
generally but not always.. you can also gain power by advancing ignition timing without changing the injector duty cycle.
Zaphod
20-07-2005, 08:12 PM
generally but not always.. you can also gain power by advancing ignition timing without changing the injector duty cycle.
Yes, well I did say there were exceptions. :)
cthulhu
20-07-2005, 08:13 PM
Yes, well I did say there were exceptions. :)
:D sorry, didn't mean to sound as though I was correcting you. Just wanted to give an example of where you were right :cool:
Zaphod
20-07-2005, 08:15 PM
:D sorry, didn't mean to sound as though I was correcting you. Just wanted to give an example of where you were right :cool:
Cheers :cool:
thisbiatchbiteshard
22-07-2005, 02:08 PM
They are soo great, if i could afford it there'd be one in my car. My new car will definatley have one in it, even if it takes me 2 months to save for one!!! :)
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