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TS Magna
06-07-2005, 10:57 AM
My Mitsubishi dealership recomended they do a engine flush to remove any sludge that COULD be in the oil galleries or sump pick up. How do they do this, does it affect the motor in any way and has anyone had it done?
pseudomorphous
06-07-2005, 03:33 PM
theyre not just talking about chucking that little bottle of nulon oil flush crap in are they? That just gets chucked into the oil, the car runs for 10 minutes to let it circulate and then the its all drained with this additive which is supposed to carry the crap out with it.
Ive heard other mechanics flush the engine out with a thinner style of oil to clean it out but i havnt really paid enough attention to it to give you any more details sorry.
magnus
07-07-2005, 08:13 PM
im a mechanic and we charge $120 for basic service which includes up to 5lt of oil (extra $15 for synthetic ) oil filter sump plug washer full check over and report and a wyns engine oil flush which is labelled not for retail sale (which basicly means stronger than crap you get from super cheep or repco)and it does work cleans out sluge and build up of crap in lifters it will not dammage engines its recomended to use a flush every service to keep engine in clean working order remember the biggest killer of motors is lack of oil changes and over heating ive been in trade for 12 years i recomend oil change every 5000km even know some service books say 15000km that is a load of crap because oil is also a cleaner and no oil is designed to last 15000km.....i also find it funny that holden astras recomend that coolant is not required changing for life of car hmmm so what is the life of your $20000 car 2 years ?? thats all coolant last for..
Ascension
09-07-2005, 11:59 AM
Are you saying, that its some kind of mechanic secret this wyn engine oil flush and us normal people arnt alowed to buy it because it says "not for retail sale" on it.
Thats gotta be the biggest load of crap, no offense.
When something says not for retail sale on it it normally means that it came in a set or package with other stuff and the individual item isnt suppose to be sold by itself.
I guarantee you that if you posted up what is inside that "engine oil flush" i could find something exactly the same.
magnus
09-07-2005, 07:47 PM
ok hear goes u buy flush from eg. repco how much do you pay ?? im in trade and need flush do do its job propily the 1st time so ...wyns give me better product because i buy cartons of it so i get box of about 20 with stronger product so i dont need to tip 5 bottles in to motor to get same result, see wyns and other products are trying to phase out home mechanics because they make more money out of workshops that buy the product in bulk . technically no one living in australia should be doing own oil changes at home ..reason is where do you despose of the used engine oil ??? mechanical work shops have to pay to get old oil desposed of . so me being a mechanic i can not wait for a law to stop people fixing there own cars when they havent got a mechanical certificate.
Killbilly
09-07-2005, 07:58 PM
ok hear goes u buy flush from eg. repco how much do you pay ?? im in trade and need flush do do its job propily the 1st time so ...wyns give me better product because i buy cartons of it so i get box of about 20 with stronger product so i dont need to tip 5 bottles in to motor to get same result, see wyns and other products are trying to phase out home mechanics because they make more money out of workshops that buy the product in bulk . technically no one living in australia should be doing own oil changes at home ..reason is where do you despose of the used engine oil ??? mechanical work shops have to pay to get old oil desposed of . so me being a mechanic i can not wait for a law to stop people fixing there own cars when they havent got a mechanical certificate.
Right that'll happen.
So it'll be illegal for me to change my own oil?
What rubbish. Are they going to have "Backyard Mechanic" Patrols just like Water patrol?
AussieMagna
09-07-2005, 08:07 PM
ok hear goes u buy flush from eg. repco how much do you pay ?? im in trade and need flush do do its job propily the 1st time so ...wyns give me better product because i buy cartons of it so i get box of about 20 with stronger product so i dont need to tip 5 bottles in to motor to get same result, see wyns and other products are trying to phase out home mechanics because they make more money out of workshops that buy the product in bulk . technically no one living in australia should be doing own oil changes at home ..reason is where do you despose of the used engine oil ??? mechanical work shops have to pay to get old oil desposed of . so me being a mechanic i can not wait for a law to stop people fixing there own cars when they havent got a mechanical certificate.
RRRight....
Im not one to have a go at an AMC member ... But this is the stupidest thing i've heard all week! Firstly if I want to do an oil change on my pride and joy I'll do it. I know for a fact, while im not a mechanic that I can do basic maintenance / work on my car safely, cheaply and know a better job is done.
Sorry mate but im quite happy to change my oil every 5000 kms and know my price and joy is getting the love it deserves instead of taking it to my dealer or local mechanic who always seem to let me down one way or another...
cthulhu
09-07-2005, 08:18 PM
It's not about being incompetant at doing home oil changes, it's about the legal issues surrounding the disposal of the old oil. I believe magnus is saying that as a mechanic his workshop needs to pay to have oils and other engine waste products disposed of in an environmentally safe way to comply with various laws.
Do your oil changes at home, of course, but don't just dump the old oil down the drain or whatever - that's irresponsible.
magnus
09-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Right that'll happen.
So it'll be illegal for me to change my own oil?
What rubbish. Are they going to have "Backyard Mechanic" Patrols just like Water patrol?
laugh all you want it is illegal to change your oil but there is no one to stop you but councel
cthulhu
09-07-2005, 08:20 PM
Oh, and the "not for retail sale" bit is just because you bought it in a bulk pack. Have a look at a 12 pack bag of potato chips some time - each of the 12 packs says it's not for retail sale for the same reason :P
magnus
09-07-2005, 08:26 PM
im not saying not to change your oil at home but im saying it cost us mechanics to dump waist oil just like you can not dump a lpg bottle in to the bin its a hazzard you should be taking the oil back to the supplyer of new oil and telling them to git rid of it for you ... this would make sence (mind you it will never happen) i do my own oil changes at home but i take the old oil back to work to dump in waist tank ... does $120 for oil change oil filter flush plug washer top up on any oils and a full checkover realy sound that expencive ???
magnus
09-07-2005, 08:29 PM
Oh, and the "not for retail sale" bit is just because you bought it in a bulk pack. Have a look at a 12 pack bag of potato chips some time - each of the 12 packs says it's not for retail sale for the same reason :P
beleve what you want the crap u buy from repco or super cheep is noware as good as the **** i use !!!
cthulhu
09-07-2005, 08:36 PM
*shrug*
it may well be stronger.. it could be fully sik for all I care, but I bet that's not the reason it's got a "not for retail sale" sticker on it.
magnus
09-07-2005, 08:39 PM
*shrug*
it may well be stronger.. it could be fully sik for all I care, but I bet that's not the reason it's got a "not for retail sale" sticker on it.
why is the sticker on it then smarty since it bottled the same?
cthulhu
09-07-2005, 08:47 PM
Already said that, dude, as did someone else.. cos you bought it in a bulk pack.
magnus
09-07-2005, 08:55 PM
i can buy it 1 at time if i want still says not for retail sale ..lol u still dont get it why sell the puplic the ducks nuts when you can sell it to the profesionals and make more money ok hows this one . u buy oil flush from super cheep to do flush trying to get rid of a lifter noise ... end resault still got noise ... if un lucky ... put the good **** in that we use you would be very very un lucky to get car back with lifter noise . why would wyns sell us **** that dont work if they did we wouldnt use it. and trust me im the first one to tell a mana****ure that there product is crap.
cthulhu
09-07-2005, 09:04 PM
ok dude. You enjoy your magical pixie fluid.
Appologies to TS Magna for spamming up his thread :cool:
TS Magna
09-07-2005, 09:05 PM
ok dude. You enjoy your magical pixie fluid.
Appologies to TS Magna for spamming up his thread :cool:
lol your coolies mate
magnus
09-07-2005, 09:07 PM
ok dude. You enjoy your magical pixie fluid.
Appologies to TS Magna for spamming up his thread :cool:
its of matey u keep putting that water downed turps in to ya motor lol :nuts:
magboi
09-07-2005, 09:11 PM
your full of it magnus. go learn to spell correctly to
magnus
10-07-2005, 06:51 AM
lol this is sooo funny lol
laugh all you want it is illegal to change your oil but there is no one to stop you but councel
magnus, in a perfect world for a mechanic, all supercheap, repco, autobarn, etc..... stores would not exist. Car owners would be absolute morons that have no mechanical knowledge at all, and you would be laughing your head off at how naive people are.
why? coz then mechanics would be doing everything from 'illegal oil changes' to headlight globe changes.
I find it funny that you say that its illegal to do oil changes and only your council can stop you from doing it. I think what you ment to say was that its illegal to pour oil down a drain. I do 5000km changes at home on about 3 cars. I have 2 44galon drums in my backyard, which when full i take to the local tip and get them disposed of accordingly. Whats so illegal about this?
If it was illegal as you said, then why are oils allowed to be sold in shops, why can u buy oil pans, and oil drums?
Next you'll be saying its illegal to top up your washer bottle levels.
does $120 for oil change oil filter flush plug washer top up on any oils and a full checkover realy sound that expencive ???
f*ckin oath its sounds too expensive.
$120 to undo a drain plug?
Oil RETAIL (which im sure u pay much less for) costs $30average
Oil Filter RETAIL - $10tops
Plug Washer - couple of cents for about 300 of them
Then have a glance over the engine bay and if the owner looks like they have no idea tell them that their flux capacitor needs replacing too.
magboi
10-07-2005, 07:52 AM
ok guys here it goes. im an apprentice mechanic for a chain dealership and i think i know what the wynns engine flush magnus is talking about. i phoned my mate has been working where i work for 12 years.
the wynns stuff we get is marked not for individual sale, which means it is purchased in bulk and we can use the product on the customers car, and charge it on there service invoice, but not give a bottle to the customer for $$$, meaning not selling it over the counter (like super cheap and repco) if we do that, we can sell it for much less to what retailers sell it for. that wynns products all/most mechanics use IS available in retail
as for oil changes in your back yard, my boss cracked up when i told him that one. magnus is correct to a degree, but yes you ARE allowed to change your own oil, but it is totally illegal to flush it, pour down drains, or into the earth. alot of super cheap/ repco stores give a 5 litre container with oil absorb in it, you pour it into that, then take it back to super cheap and you get a discount off your next oil and filter, thats what i do, my local council have an oil recycling centre where ppl who do there own changes can take there oil to free of charge.
magnus
10-07-2005, 08:41 AM
f*ckin oath its sounds too expensive.
$120 to undo a drain plug?
Oil RETAIL (which im sure u pay much less for) costs $30average
Oil Filter RETAIL - $10tops
Plug Washer - couple of cents for about 300 of them
Then have a glance over the engine bay and if the owner looks like they have no idea tell them that their flux capacitor needs replacing too.
if i left your oil filter loose and u lost all your oil and killed your motor at least you would get a new motor out of it because we would have to replace it for you hmmm $120 sounds cheep now
why would u leave it loose? i thought yur a qualified mechanic? an oil filter only needs to be done up as tight as u can do it with your bare hands anyway, i've been doing them like this for years with no problems. Doin them up any tighter will only squash the rubber seal which could result in its failure.
So no...it still doesnt sound cheap.
TS Magna
10-07-2005, 10:44 AM
I agree with you Samurai, if it is left loose then the mechanic is sh*t. And if it did regretably fall off 90% of mechanics shift the blame onto the motorist to get outa fixing it.. I have delt with a well know Aussie chain mechanic who blew the motor in my car, then tried to blame me. He didn't pay a cent! But I can't be walked over, and thanks to my lawyer, he had to pay the entire bill, which he did in the end and apologised to me.
I get my 5000k services through Mitsubishi again, it is costly, but I don't have the time to change my oil myself. Wish I did!
Madmagna
10-07-2005, 12:37 PM
ok hear goes u buy flush from eg. repco how much do you pay ?? im in trade and need flush do do its job propily the 1st time so ...wyns give me better product because i buy cartons of it so i get box of about 20 with stronger product so i dont need to tip 5 bottles in to motor to get same result, see wyns and other products are trying to phase out home mechanics because they make more money out of workshops that buy the product in bulk . technically no one living in australia should be doing own oil changes at home ..reason is where do you despose of the used engine oil ??? mechanical work shops have to pay to get old oil desposed of . so me being a mechanic i can not wait for a law to stop people fixing there own cars when they havent got a mechanical certificate.
Ummm why not dispose of the pil at the local tip where they have facility to do such.
Being a mechanic myself (well by trade anyway) there are more "qualified" mechanics out there who have no idea then those who have no formal qualifications that do have an idea.
Mose people when working on their own car will take care of what they do, most paid shops do not give a crap, get the car in , out next one in etc.
As for the Wynns being stronger for workshop use, rubbish. The workshop sold bottles are different, they are cheaper to buy and the labling is plainer, not designed to be displayed on the store shelf.
I used to use Wynns, still do, it is a great product and does work. It is not designed to rebuild a worn out motor but is designed to help a motor last longer.
f*ckin oath its sounds too expensive.
$120 to undo a drain plug?
Oil RETAIL (which im sure u pay much less for) costs $30average
Oil Filter RETAIL - $10tops
Plug Washer - couple of cents for about 300 of them
Then have a glance over the engine bay and if the owner looks like they have no idea tell them that their flux capacitor needs replacing too.
Magnus is another reason why people do not get their cars serviced. $120.00 should get a lot more than a dodgy oil change. Mitsubishi is cheaper than that.
Killbilly
10-07-2005, 06:13 PM
laugh all you want it is illegal to change your oil but there is no one to stop you but councel
Uh huh...you show me where that law is and I'll show you an idiot.
The law resides in oil DUMPING not changing your oil...If it was illegal to change your oil you'd have to have a mechanics license to BUY AN OIL FILTER AND OIL.
I think it's been adequately proven you have no idea what you're talking about.
siccness
10-07-2005, 06:31 PM
Heh, they'll never enforce a law to stop us from changing our own oil, because we're unable to dispose of it properly. If they do enforce such a law, then won't we have to get someone to come to our house and clear out the cooking oil from the deep fryer? It's practically the same thing, by all means it can be a nuiscanse to get rid of but if we're unable to change our own oils then I'm moving to another country.
I to am a mechanic,
Magnus, where you were saying about having to pay to have the oil collected from your workshop? who the hell do you use? they collect it for free as they get money for it (the guy we use does), also its how workshops rip customers off, as most of you will see the enviromental waste fee on the bill, apart from the storage tank ( only has to be a 44 gallon drum or the like ) it costs us nothing.
also in your profile magnus, your birthdate is down as 1980? so how could you be in the trade for 12 years?
Killbilly
10-07-2005, 06:41 PM
:bowrofl:
magnus
13-07-2005, 06:36 PM
The Wyns Oil Flush That You Buy From Repco Or Super Cheap Is Normaly In A Grey Bottle ( Supreme) The Wyns Product We Use Is (profesional) And Is Aprox 40% Stronger Than What You Can Buy From Retail Stores. And As For The Oil Change In Your Back Yard I Didnt Mean You Couldnt Do Your Oil Changes I Ment It Should Be Law That You Take The Oil Back To Where You Got The New Oil From. And Also As For The Oil Filter Being Left Loose .how About A Faulty Seal On The Filter You Will Have A Lot Of Trouble Getting Warranty If It Fails Since You Are Not A Certified Mechanic .
pseudomorphous
13-07-2005, 10:07 PM
That does not make sense on a manufacturers point of view. Why make two products of different composition and bottle them and label them the same. From a chemical engineering point of view that is a waste of resorces. For each time you make a new batch the whole system will have to be flushed and preped for new product. Why do this when you could simply make one product for all puposes. Also you say that it is 40% stronger than regular, what is this assumption made based on what do you have information about this? and what is the active ingredient which is increased by 40%? Also may i ask you to point out the industrial strength engine flush product from wynns range as i cant seem to find it? Whereas the 'regular' strength is listed under there regular product.
http://www.wynns.net/products/industrial.php?Product_No=56908
http://www.wynns.net/products/retail.php?Product_No=51406
Also i agrre with other statements about oil changing, yes it is illegal to pour your oil down the drain and hence there are many places made available to correctly dispose of the waste. While i understand that you may get the occasional dickhead who doesnt know what theyre doing in their car maintanence and stuff it up, you have to realise that this is a car forum where everyone here knows a decent amount about cars and more than likely the majority do their own work on their cars. and hence making a statement about how you think it should be illegal for people to work on their cars, thats just asking for trouble.
Killbilly
13-07-2005, 10:14 PM
The Wyns Oil Flush That You Buy From Repco Or Super Cheap Is Normaly In A Grey Bottle ( Supreme) The Wyns Product We Use Is (profesional) And Is Aprox 40% Stronger Than What You Can Buy From Retail Stores. And As For The Oil Change In Your Back Yard I Didnt Mean You Couldnt Do Your Oil Changes I Ment It Should Be Law That You Take The Oil Back To Where You Got The New Oil From. And Also As For The Oil Filter Being Left Loose .how About A Faulty Seal On The Filter You Will Have A Lot Of Trouble Getting Warranty If It Fails Since You Are Not A Certified Mechanic .
Hahah you have no idea.
magboi
14-07-2005, 07:48 AM
The Wyns Oil Flush That You Buy From Repco Or Super Cheap Is Normaly In A Grey Bottle ( Supreme) The Wyns Product We Use Is (profesional) And Is Aprox 40% Stronger Than What You Can Buy From Retail Stores. And As For The Oil Change In Your Back Yard I Didnt Mean You Couldnt Do Your Oil Changes I Ment It Should Be Law That You Take The Oil Back To Where You Got The New Oil From. And Also As For The Oil Filter Being Left Loose .how About A Faulty Seal On The Filter You Will Have A Lot Of Trouble Getting Warranty If It Fails Since You Are Not A Certified Mechanic .
Wrong! we use wynns engine flush everyday at work. wynns professional is the same ingredients as the one sold at super cheap, repco because i personally have spoke to a rep who regulary comes into our workshop. it is just put into different bottles, 1 for the consumer, 1 for the mechanic workshops.
mechanics also get wynns for cheaper because they buy in bulk
i will bring an empty bottle home from work and buy a bottle from super cheap. i really must stress about your mechanicle credentials, and would hate for you to work on my car. you seriously dont no sh*t from clay.
RJL25
14-07-2005, 08:26 AM
appologies to anyone who read my post defending magnus, i just read his other posts. Hes an asshat
RJL25
14-07-2005, 08:38 AM
if i left your oil filter loose and u lost all your oil and killed your motor at least you would get a new motor out of it because we would have to replace it for you hmmm $120 sounds cheep now
your a dill mate, someone who knows what there doing enough to change their oil also knows how to tighten a bolt!
30 buks for 5litres of castrol magnatec at supercheap
5 buks for a ryco oil filter at supercheap
20 cents for a new oil plug washer (if needed) at my local parts supplier
15 minutes out of my day
so i spend a total of $35.20 and 15 minutes to change my oil, plus i use my trusty ring spanner and make sure my oil plug is nice and tight and im done. OMG i just saved $84.80 :shock:
mate i know you think your good, but in all seriousness it doesnt take a massively high intelect to be a mechanic, and its certainly not rocket science changing engine oil so get over it :cool:
Mr Cali
14-07-2005, 10:14 AM
Hahaha this thread is so entertaining, better then watching TV lol
Ascension
14-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Thank you, thank you... i started this mess lol i just cant help myself.
Magnus some of the stuff you have said is soo much bull****, come on man, smarten up please.
I bet you anything i could buy the chemicals used in that oil flush from a chem supplier and ill have it non diluted which would be way stronger then any car company would ever sell anyone AND it will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
Anyways have to post this QUOTE you said
"so me being a mechanic i can not wait for a law to stop people fixing there own cars when they havent got a mechanical certificate"
How about next time your sink needs a new washer, your not alowed to fix it you have to call in a plumber, and next time you blow a light bulb in your house you have to call an electrican.
If mechanics wernt so bloody dodgy and overpriced maybe i would take my car to one! mechanics are digging there own grave and rely on people who dont have enough time to fix their own car or dont know enough about them to fix it.
Im not saying all mechanics are like this but thats just been my experiences with them so far, and if i do find a decent one i will take my car to them but not for something i can do myself obviously.
can a mod close this thread now.
TS Magna
14-07-2005, 01:42 PM
Rightio I had my motor flushed by Mitsubishi today!
The service fella who I use has had my car from brand new, Ive got to know him pretty well! They used a Wynn's additive to flush out any sludge build-up, varnish and crap in the car.....
I asked him about these Wynn's additives only available to Mechanic's, he did not know what I was on about! They use the same additive you can get from your automotive store but labled different for workshops
So yeah weather someone is telling airy fairy stories, or there is this magical pixie juice for our car's which is only sold in Aus at Magnus's shop lol
Fuzzlet
14-07-2005, 02:10 PM
How about next time your sink needs a new washer, your not alowed to fix it you have to call in a plumber, and next time you blow a light bulb in your house you have to call an electrican
That would seriously suck
If mechanics wernt so bloody dodgy and overpriced maybe i would take my car to one! mechanics are digging there own grave and rely on people who dont have enough time to fix their own car or dont know enough about them to fix it.
My local mechanic isnt too overpriced, just the only trouble is he is always booked up. When I replaced my shocks i did the rears myself, as they were easy (good ol wagons), but I got my mechanic to do the fronts, coz i dont have spring compressers
Im not saying all mechanics are like this but thats just been my experiences with them so far, and if i do find a decent one i will take my car to them but not for something i can do myself obviously.
magna_fr34k
15-07-2005, 10:07 AM
magnus ur a d1ck hehehe im so gunna get banned :badgrin:
cthulhu
15-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Rightio I had my motor flushed by Mitsubishi today!
Car feel any different now??
magna_fr34k
15-07-2005, 10:39 AM
any difference?
i just changed my sisters oil,
so does that make it not illegal caz i wasnt changing my own oil but some one elses ???
TS Magna
15-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Car feel any different now??
Yeah heaps better, have never ever had the motor flushed.! No more lifter ticking anymore.. The Mitsubishi fella said I can do it myself at home, but I don't have the time atm
magnus
15-07-2005, 06:32 PM
believe what you want ive been in trade over 10 years i talk to reps every day and pick there brains like i said the stuff in the grey bottle is sold for retail use only the product we use is only for profesional use only. its a stronger mix and cost more . i use all these products every day. OIL FLUSH. FRICTION PROOFING, POWER STEERING FLUSH, POWER STEERING CONDITIONER, AUTO FLUSH, AUTO CONDITIONER, CARBON BLAST, RADIATOR FLUSH,RADIATOR CONDITIONER,
THROTTLE BODY CLEANER. AND A OIL THICKENER . when you have used these products every day and used the retail stuff you can see the differance in the products. so like the other fella said why put the product in different bottles , because wyns suppory the mechanics more than the retail shops we sell at least 8 of these a day. and if your changing a light bulb in ya house your only going to hurt yourself. if you fix your car and dont do the job right u can hurt yourself and other people in your car and anyone else on the road. and as for your thinking that $120 for a service is expencive pull your head out of ya ass. i bet if i checked your cars over i would find things that need fixing that you have missed or mitsubishi has missed, hmm ill go buy a new car whether it be a $20000 or $70000 car take back to the dealer for a 3rd year apprentice to service it dont think for a second that your getting a qualified mechanic to work on it ooonooo there buissy doing the hard stuff that requires thinking and diagnosing. they employ apprentices to service . so what smart ass is going to tell me different. one of you goons that tinker with **** and read street machine and think they know what there doing .lol i deal with them every day and they usaly drive the biggest crap heaps on the road.
mate....get over it.
You're a mechanic, well so u say anyway, ofcourse you're gonna tell us how bad it is not to take our cars to one.
Whats this about chaging a light bulb and hurting ourselves? Hang on....are you saying i need to call an electrician to change a light bulb in my house? Mate...get off the grass.
Hey i bet you're right. If you checked my car im 100% certain u'd find a few thigns wrong with it, ITS HOW YOU MAKE MORE MONEY! My car has a few things wrong with it, things like a torn steering rack boot, worn engine mounts, slightly worn rings, ****ed 1st-2nd gear synchro, but none of these things require immediate attention. And i bet if i took it to a mechanic and i knew nothing about cars, theyd tell me how DANGEROUS my car is to drive and that this HAS TO BE FIXED RIGHT NOW! i dont think anyone who services their own car would put it on the road if they thought they could get seriously hurt in it.
and how else are apprentices going to learn if they dont do the work? Being "in the trade for 10 years" as you say, u must have once been an apprentice. imagine u got to do no work at all during your time, you just had to watch? You'd be f*ckin useless once you became a tradesperson. Which by the sounds of thigns is exactly what happend.
So lets just do a brief run down now;
I cant change my oil, its illegal
I cant change a lightbulb in my house, i have to get an electrician
$120 is not expensive for $40 work.
If i service my own car i'll only hurt myself.
and last but not least
Apprentices shouldnt be working on cars brought in for servicing.
yeh nice one F*ckwit.
magnus
15-07-2005, 08:17 PM
see this is what im talking theres allways a turkey if you replace the $50 steering boot its going to save you $400 for a new rack . the boot is to stop the dirt getting in to the racks seals
and i didnt say u can not change a bloody light bulb your compairing **** to clay
and i c u still think $120 for a service is exe , see what an electrician is going to charge to install a light in your house. and i dont mean the globe i mean the switch and wiring and the globe holder. you are the sort customer i would tell to f off :rant:
you are the sort customer i would tell to f off :rant:
funny that.....coz yur the sort of mechanic i would tell to F*ck off.
magnus
15-07-2005, 08:53 PM
funny that.....coz yur the sort of mechanic i would tell to F*ck off.
and you would need a $400 rack because u didnt take the advice hey i have an idea u give me $50 and ill replace the boot , ill put the boot on the $400 rack that probily now has dirt in it
Rothguard
15-07-2005, 09:04 PM
Having read this series of dribble i am ashamed to say that some of the members who have contributed to it really need to step outside and get some fresh air :gtfo: then take a good hard look at the stupidity that they have spewen forth :rant: if you an idiot fine change you oil at home and pour it down the drain but dont complain when the acid rain strips the paint of your car in this day and age i can belive that some of youare so stupid as to argue over wether or not you can change your own oil. you could hook you gas oven up to the mains as well but we all know how stupid that would be. come on its not rocket science. i honestly thought all magna drivers had brains unlike certen other clubs. if you take your car to a mechanic have a look on the net first to check out wha the problem might be or put a post in here and stop being morons. SHAME SHAME SHAME
Having read this series of dribble i am ashamed to say that some of the members who have contributed to it really need to step outside and get some fresh air :gtfo: then take a good hard look at the stupidity that they have spewen forth :rant: if you an idiot fine change you oil at home and pour it down the drain but dont complain when the acid rain strips the paint of your car in this day and age i can belive that some of youare so stupid as to argue over wether or not you can change your own oil. you could hook you gas oven up to the mains as well but we all know how stupid that would be. come on its not rocket science. i honestly thought all magna drivers had brains unlike certen other clubs. if you take your car to a mechanic have a look on the net first to check out wha the problem might be or put a post in here and stop being morons. SHAME SHAME SHAMEwhere did u pull this rubbish from
if u actually took the time to read it u will see that ppl change their own oil and infact dispose of it correctly and safely
come on its not rocket science to go back and read a few pages before ranting off at every one :gtfo:
Killbilly
16-07-2005, 09:35 AM
This thread is being put to rest before I lose anymore brain cells reading this senseless drivel that is coming from some people...
http://www.policyalmanac.org/environment/archive/acid_rain.shtml
It says nothing about oil down the drain (which I do NOT condone FYI!) causing acid rain. Also acid rain will NOT "strip your paint". It decreases it's life and it's strength, so you get a VP Commodore looking bonnet over a long period of time.
The only way oil contributes is when it's burnt. Do some reading...
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