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mewey
09-07-2005, 06:53 PM
I was just wondering if there are any clear tail lights for the TR magna, i have never seen any and i have looked around heaps to try and find some but no luck. Any one know anything?

Matt
09-07-2005, 07:02 PM
no there are none.....

mewey
09-07-2005, 07:12 PM
ok thanks anyway

[TUFFTR]
09-07-2005, 08:13 PM
gee this thread is going places......lol.......seriously would anyone be able to custom make some? i mean it should be possible, just about every other car has them including some real sh|tboxes, shoulod ring around get some qoutes

veradagirl
09-07-2005, 08:18 PM
the only clear tail light you get are the verada/elite lights

which only have clear indicators

[TUFFTR]
09-07-2005, 08:29 PM
yeah i was hoping there would be some altezza equivalent available, similar to the WRX, VR, and Lancer taillights......oh well *fret*

cenithx
11-07-2005, 06:11 PM
Depending on the way the light covers are made, on some cars you can do it yourself. Some lights are just clear plastic and inside them they've been painted with red/orange transparent paint/layer.

I used to have a Lanos and using a heat gun and some force you could seperate the outside plastic from the rest of the lights and then using a paint stripper it would eat away the colored layer on the inside of the lense.

Personally I don't like the look of cleared lenses anymore, prefer tinted, but if someone was keen they could buy some rear lights from a wrecker to experiment on or something.

[TUFFTR]
11-07-2005, 06:17 PM
wouldnt you have to put a red cover thingy on top of the lens so its still red, like inside the actuall light?

cenithx
11-07-2005, 06:46 PM
Depends how legal you want to be.

To be legal, you can replace your globes with red ones.. like the altezzas do.. and your indicators with orange. It is legal as long as they meet the brightness/visibility/colour rules and you get it engineered.

RoGuE_StreaK
11-07-2005, 10:24 PM
Nope. To be legal, has to be fully ADR compliant, and there's no way in hell an engineer will go through all the design rules to certify a one-off set of lights. The only way we'll ever see any (legal) modernised lights would be if Mitsubishi or probably Lucas were to release them. Maybe we should petition for one set of moulds to be updated to eliminate the diffusion grating...

And before anyone shouts "we don't give a **** about legal!", consider the fact that if an insurance company figures out you weren't running legal lights, they won't pay you a cent.

HyperTF
11-07-2005, 11:23 PM
:stoopid:

cenithx, be careful with advice...best read up on ADR compliance first. A great deal of issue even with the frosted tail lights on 3rd gens for example from what I understand, is the reflective section as it is, reflects white. When you see a stationary car from behind the reflectors should be red, indicating the left side of the road and rear of a car, white indicates right and front of a car from what I understand. During the day frosted lights are shocking, even I will admit that owning a set...

As for the altezza style (the official altezza, not el cheapo sets from some dodgy factory that fall apart, or fill with water when it rains), when they become available for any models at least up until TL, I will run through the city with a frilly pink tutu on. I just don't believe they will invest the money for it... why would they?

Even though you can buy the frosted lights from places like OZEPARTS, it clearly states that they are for OFF ROAD USE ONLY as a disclaimer, meaning for display purposes and show events... but people (like I did) still fit them for road use taking a chance with getting canaried, fined or as RogueStreak said... if you are in a tail ender and the person who hits you says... "but i couldn't see their brake lights!!", you are going to have to hope you get some bloody big stroke of luck come your way cos unless you are paying for it, you will really be paying for it.

As for trying to make them... if you can find someone who will invest the time and money into it, I would say the chances are slim to non existent. Good luck tho!

M4DDOG
12-07-2005, 12:08 AM
the only way i could see it happening was if you turned your existing covers clear, which i would imagine would be something like what cenithx said, heating up the plastic and then using a paint thiner could kill the colour.

HyperTF
12-07-2005, 12:30 AM
...and kill the plastic ;)

RoGuE_StreaK
12-07-2005, 03:02 PM
using a paint thiner could kill the colour.

Nup, the plastics are moulded in the colour, it's not an applied tint.

I'm thinking a possible way of modernising the lights is to have one of the sets of lense moulds modified by removing the diffusion grating pattern. Shouldn't be
too big a job for Lucas to modify one set of moulds, if we could show there was enough demand for it, and that way you'd have a major company who could certify the lenses as ADR complaint.
Not for clear as such, but for the more modern transparent colour look. I've noticed the main difference between more recent lights (eg mazda3, astra etc) and earlier models is that the lenses are fully transparent, ie., without a diffusion grating, diffusing the light instead by putting a grating on the reflector behind the light. Check some recent cars out and you'll see what I mean.

M4DDOG
12-07-2005, 04:16 PM
Ok so the plastic is moulded in that colour, but how is the plastic that colour in the first place? Depending on the plastic they use there's a substance similar to paint thinner that extracts the colour, though i'm pretty sure it turns more white than clear hmmm...

SideWinder
12-07-2005, 07:24 PM
Alot of people will probably hate me for this, as some of the 3rd gen owners on here have clear tail lights..

as a car owner, they look mad as hell.. however...

as someone who has to share a road with those taillights, it makes for very hard driving.
alot of cars come stock with clear indicators on the front, and on a sunny day you have no idea whether or not the idicator is on as they go around a roundabout..

Just my 2c..but possibly think of how your clear tail lights may affect other road users