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allminesolara
11-07-2005, 11:18 AM
Hey all
Looking to chuck a stacker in the TL, part of a long term upgrade of the audio but seeing as the pennies are far and few between these days (wife reckons bub comes first! ) I was thinking of doing it slowly, . The main thing that really bugging me at the moment is having to change CD's so I'm thinking of chucking a stacker onto the existing stock HU and upgrading that down the track. It looks like it can be done. the LCD display has allowences for it so i'm guessing when you buy the stacker at the dealer he just plugs it straight in no need to change the HU. i'm hoping that this is the case and that I can do the same with my own and significantly cheaper than the genuine mitsu stacker. (is this making sense?) The parts guys at the local mitsu dealer reackon clarion is the brand to use.
Does anyone know if this is the go, anyone done this before.
(I asked the missus if we should get the stacker when we bought the Car but NO!!! thats a luxury we wont ever use!!!!)
Failing this, my boss reckons iPods are the way to go with in car music these days. but the only way i can see this working is with the FM transmitter. Whats the sound quality like with those? heard they are pretty average?
stripper13
11-07-2005, 11:54 AM
I couldn't answer you on much, but with the iPod question.
Most of the high grade MP3 players have astounding quality. Assuming its got a big enough Hard Drive, will hold as many songs as you can put in a stacker at CD quality.
The iPod's are great, at the moment I'm currently using a Creative NuMo 5Gb MP3 player that plugs straight into my tape deck via an adaptor I bought at Strathfield for $30. Works wonders, and I get CD quality tunes.
Awesome investment as far as I'm concerned, will upgrade eventually howeve.r
s_tim_ulate
11-07-2005, 12:00 PM
definetly wouldnt call that cd quality, it is a compressed format (mp3) which is being played through the tape deck... So at best it is tape quality.
My iPod goes in through the auxilary input in my JVC deck, quality is the best ul get for an mp3 player. But still easy to notice the differences between that and CD's.
Peace
Tim
stripper13
11-07-2005, 12:40 PM
definetly wouldnt call that cd quality, it is a compressed format (mp3) which is being played through the tape deck... So at best it is tape quality.
My iPod goes in through the auxilary input in my JVC deck, quality is the best ul get for an mp3 player. But still easy to notice the differences between that and CD's.
Peace
Tim
First, a ripped MP3 can be, based on your choice of bitrate, entirely CD quality.
Second, the tape deck is simply my connection from my musical input and the speakers, I can plug a walkman in, or an MP3 player, I get the quality of whatever the input is. I've tried both using regular tapes, and the adaptor with MP3/CD and there's definitely a noticeable difference.
Only issue I've found with the adaptor, is that I have to use the MP3 player to change songs and change volume (to any noticeable degree). Fortunately, it came with a remote.
s_tim_ulate
11-07-2005, 12:51 PM
Yep i know the tape adapter ur talking about, they just make contact with the magnetic heads on the tape.
But any compression from CD will lose quality. Even high quality Mp3's will lose quality.
Whether you or your system picks this up is a different story.
Peace
Tim
stripper13
11-07-2005, 12:58 PM
Yep i know the tape adapter ur talking about, they just make contact with the magnetic heads on the tape.
But any compression from CD will lose quality. Even high quality Mp3's will lose quality.
Whether you or your system picks this up is a different story.
Peace
Tim
I presume my system is not picking this up then? From what I can gather, its entirely stock. I have no idea the quality of the stock Magna gear.
SARRAS
11-07-2005, 01:01 PM
Well I put KL Verada 'Premium Audio' 6 stacker in mine (bought off a member here for $200) and spent about $180 on upgraded speakers (see my profile) from J&B - and the results are great for a total cost of $380 and some spade type blade connectors. Everything fitted right in and can easily be reversed if I sell the car etc. So maybe try a WTB in the for sale section.
allminesolara
11-07-2005, 02:01 PM
Cheers Sarras,
so that was on the stock HU was it?
My mate was telling me that it might be problem in finding a compatible changer to fit the head unit. is this a possibilty?
I want to get a stacker now that will be great for when and if i get round to upgrading the head unit. a sort of piece by piece upgrade
s_tim_ulate
11-07-2005, 02:28 PM
Then ur best bet would be an fm modulated stacker, this is compatible with any headunit.
Don't need to run any wires in behind the headunit either.
Peace
Tim
SARRAS
11-07-2005, 07:22 PM
Cheers Sarras,
so that was on the stock HU was it?
My mate was telling me that it might be problem in finding a compatible changer to fit the head unit. is this a possibilty?
I want to get a stacker now that will be great for when and if i get round to upgrading the head unit. a sort of piece by piece upgrade
No the standard one and the little glove box thingy comes out, and the in dash 'Double Din' 6 stacker goes in as a replacement. The only 'catch' is that if you have an earlier TJ without the LED trippy in the main instrument cluster, you lose your clock, as that's in the standard single CD player. But the indash stacker is easier to use and there's no wiring issues between the HU and the stacker or anything - it plugs straight up.
el3ment
11-07-2005, 08:34 PM
Yep i know the tape adapter ur talking about, they just make contact with the magnetic heads on the tape.
But any compression from CD will lose quality. Even high quality Mp3's will lose quality.
Whether you or your system picks this up is a different story.
Peace
Tim
Any MP3, even compressed to 320kb/s is loosing sound quality. The whole point of MP3 is that it removes any frequencies that our ears cannot detect anyways, which basically is everything above 20khz or there abouts. So everything from 20khz - 44.1khz is lost. And is uses other logarythms to compress the remaining frequencies...
On a stock system, you wouldn't pick it up really. But once you have amps and good speakers, then it will become earier to pickup.
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