:confused: hey people I gjust got new feet on my baby this morning and that was ok till they told me that my back brakes are low and then that my back shockies are leaking. I asked them what they meant and they said to contact my mechanic.. Dick heads why couldnt they take 5 minutes to explain.. :rant:

Can anyone please explain what they mean by this.. Is it bad and how urgent is it needed to be done. Im alittle worried as i have never had this before. Please help me :confused:

Some shock absorbers put on cars when made are oil rather then gas. When their seals wear out, the oil leaks out.

Nowadays shocks are gas filled instead of oil.

i'd be extreemly surprised if your shocks where oil filled instead of gas shockies.. i think the tyre fitter is an idiot and doesnt know what hes talking about

Gas filled shocks still have oil in them!!!!.The idea of gas is to keep the oil from frothing so to speak and losing its quality.

SO... the bottom line is that you need to replace your rear brake pads and get some new shock absorbers fitted at the rear.

Thanks heaps guys thats been really helpful.. i did the bounce test on her and she not bad. she only sprung up and down and up. Thats good isnt it.. I been onto local repco friend and i can get set of shockies for 129 and back brakes for 35.(mates rates got love staff discount) So i think i will be using my tax refund fully on car.. Thanks again for all the help

At this stage you would have perfect opportunity to upgrade to proper performance brake pads and shock absorbers. And I personally would change all 4 in each case, not just the rear. Unless fronts have been done just recently. Balance, my friend. :)


Thanks heaps guys thats been really helpful.. i did the bounce test on her and she not bad. she only sprung up and down and up. Thats good isnt it.. I been onto local repco friend and i can get set of shockies for 129 and back brakes for 35.(mates rates got love staff discount) So i think i will be using my tax refund fully on car.. Thanks again for all the help

i'd be extreemly surprised if your shocks where oil filled instead of gas shockies.. i think the tyre fitter is an idiot and doesnt know what hes talking about

Haha, you're the idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. The correct term is "dampers" anyway.

As for "leaking" dampers, it is normal to have a very thin film of oil on the outside of the inner shafts, as this keeps the seals lubricated. What you don't want is oil actually dribbling down the body of the outer shaft. Leaking dampers = poor damping = poor suspension control and vehicle handling.

Thanks heaps guys thats been really helpful.. i did the bounce test on her and she not bad. she only sprung up and down and up. Thats good isnt it.. I been onto local repco friend and i can get set of shockies for 129 and back brakes for 35.(mates rates got love staff discount) So i think i will be using my tax refund fully on car.. Thanks again for all the help

just up down would be better.. but up down up isn't so bad as long as the last up is only a small up, not a big up. haha that sounds so funny but you know what i mean :P



Haha, you're the idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. The correct term is "dampers" anyway.

As for "leaking" dampers, it is normal to have a very thin film of oil on the outside of the inner shafts, as this keeps the seals lubricated. What you don't want is oil actually dribbling down the body of the outer shaft. Leaking dampers = poor damping = poor suspension control and vehicle handling.

yes the correct term is dampers, i am aware that its actually the springs that absorb the shock and the dampers control spring movement, however in australia the common term is shock absorbers, even monroe use the term shock absorbers in their commercials. So stop being such a pedantic idiot.

Their is a very small amount of oil in gas shocks, and as such i would be very surprised if they were leaking, it would be much easier for the gas to leak out then the oil, so if the oil is leaking then the gas pressure would also be crap and the shocks would be terrible and the car would be bottoming out everywhere and i am sure she would have noticed that, hence my comments. Now go away

Can u two make-up and kiss. Or do I have to shoot you?

Damper is a bush tucker bread made of flour and water and stuff. But if one adds oil in to it (olive oil of course) then , yee, I guess it might "leak" a bit. :nuts:

Dunno what "shock absorber" is tho. Boobs?

Tone down your retorts guys. There is no need to throw insults around while explaining yourself. Shows a lack of control and intelligence.

what? i said he was acting like a pedantic idiot, which he was, i didnt say he was a pedantic idiot tho.. just acting like one

baaaaaack on topic now :)

i still think the tyre dude doesnt know what hes talking about

what? i said he was acting like a pedantic idiot, which he was, i didnt say he was a pedantic idiot tho.. just acting like one

baaaaaack on topic now :)

i still think the tyre dude doesnt know what hes talking about

So acting like something doesn't make you one? :nuts: I wasn't having a go directly at you, you just happened to post in front of me demonstrating what I was talking about.

So acting like something doesn't make you one? :nuts: I wasn't having a go directly at you, you just happened to post in front of me demonstrating what I was talking about.

nah not necessarily, you can act like a retard but not actually be mentally retarded. But anyway thats not the point, the point is we are getting waaaaaaaaay off topic now. appologies to magna girl

Actually a gas shock does have oil in it. More than a "small amount".
If you have a look at this site it explains the differences between various types of shock (damper)

http://www.monroe.com/tech_support/tec_shockabsorbers.asp

I have copied part of it below.

"Twin Tube - Gas Charged Design
The development of gas charged shock absorbers was a major advance in ride control technology. This advance solved many ride control problems which occurred due to an increasing number of vehicles using uni-body construction, shorter wheelbases and increased use of higher tire pressures.

The design of twin tube gas charged shock absorbers solves many of today's ride control problems by adding a low pressure charge of nitrogen gas in the reserve tube. The pressure of the nitrogen in the reserve tube varies from 100 to 150 psi, depending on the amount of fluid in the reserve tube. The gas serves several important functions to improve the ride control characteristics of a shock.

The prime function of gas charging is to minimize aeration of the hydraulic fluid. The pressure of the nitrogen gas compresses air bubbles in the hydraulic fluid. This prevents the oil and air from mixing and creating foam. Foam affects performance because it can be compressed - fluid can not. With aeration reduced, the shock is able to react faster and more predictably, allowing for quicker response time and helping keep the tire firmly planted on the road surface."

regards
bollie7

Actually a gas shock does have oil in it. More than a "small amount".
If you have a look at this site it explains the differences between various types of shock (damper)

http://www.monroe.com/tech_support/tec_shockabsorbers.asp

I have copied part of it below.

"Twin Tube - Gas Charged Design
The development of gas charged shock absorbers was a major advance in ride control technology. This advance solved many ride control problems which occurred due to an increasing number of vehicles using uni-body construction, shorter wheelbases and increased use of higher tire pressures.

The design of twin tube gas charged shock absorbers solves many of today's ride control problems by adding a low pressure charge of nitrogen gas in the reserve tube. The pressure of the nitrogen in the reserve tube varies from 100 to 150 psi, depending on the amount of fluid in the reserve tube. The gas serves several important functions to improve the ride control characteristics of a shock.

The prime function of gas charging is to minimize aeration of the hydraulic fluid. The pressure of the nitrogen gas compresses air bubbles in the hydraulic fluid. This prevents the oil and air from mixing and creating foam. Foam affects performance because it can be compressed - fluid can not. With aeration reduced, the shock is able to react faster and more predictably, allowing for quicker response time and helping keep the tire firmly planted on the road surface."

regards
bollie7

ok well theres more then a little amount, but still if they where leaking then there would also be stuff all gas pressure meaning the shocks would be basically dead

ok well theres more then a little amount, but still if they where leaking then there would also be stuff all gas pressure meaning the shocks would be basically dead

Good to see that even retards can backpedal :bowrofl:

im not packpeddling at all.. i still maintain that there is only a small amount of oil in gas shockies, just enough for lubrication. If the seals on the shocks are so bad that that tiny bit of oil is leaking out then the shocks are already stuffed and magnagirl would already know about it!

i dont know what your problem with me is teK, ive never even spoken to you before, but regardless if you have a problem keep it off the forums and in the pm's cos no one else wants to hear about them

So - I shoot yous now?

What RJL25 prolly means is that compared to traditional old style oil filled damper/shocker etc, there is very little oil in a gas strut.
And don't nobody b-dy start about me calling oil shocks old....!!!!!!

So - I shoot yous now?

What RJL25 prolly means is that compared to traditional old style oil filled damper/shocker etc, there is very little oil in a gas strut.
And don't nobody b-dy start about me calling oil shocks old....!!!!!!

quick better edit your post to read "dampers" instead of "shocks" or teK will get all narky at ya!! :P jokes

If you are either planning on lowering yoru car or have the car lowered then do not use any manafacture of shock absorbers with variable load technology aka monroe sensatrak etc as the lowered springs change the position of the stock ride height and causes these shock absorbers to eitehr die very quickly or be very harsh.

if you want the ability to alter the dampening etc go for some koni internall / externally adjustable units or use teh KYB replacement units which are reasonably priced.


Damn this would of been helpful to know about 2 yrs ago. This would explain why they have detiorated so quickly. I thought shockies or what ever you want to call them boys lasted a lot longer then 3 yrs.. But this may explain it hey.. well its all good i have looked it new ones so i should have them on within month. Baby girl getting new clutch and fly wheel this weekend. I cant wait. So excited. But hey doesnt take much to do this... thanks again for all the advice..


By the way boys you can take the dribble elsewhere as it not to helpful. But thanks all the same

Mel

Damn this would of been helpful to know about 2 yrs ago. This would explain why they have detiorated so quickly. I thought shockies or what ever you want to call them boys lasted a lot longer then 3 yrs.. But this may explain it hey.. well its all good i have looked it new ones so i should have them on within month. Baby girl getting new clutch and fly wheel this weekend. I cant wait. So excited. But hey doesnt take much to do this... thanks again for all the advice..


By the way boys you can take the dribble elsewhere as it not to helpful. But thanks all the same

Mel

sorry bout that mel, i reckon try and go for some koni's if you can afford the spend, their great shocks (sorry dampers) and should give you further improvements in handling.. also i have heard off some people that monroe GT gas shocks are really good shocks in the value for money area..

To the common guy they are shock absorbers, lets not get technical..

quick better edit your post to read "dampers" instead of "shocks" or teK will get all narky at ya!! :P jokes

Wwwwwoooaahhhhhh - I'm shocked! No, sorry, dampered! :shock:

Depends on how much dolaras Mel has at her disposal. Monroe GT Gas are good value for money - allegedly same factory as Pedders.
Redav has Kyb and he is quite happy with them.
Koni, Bilstein etc are excellent stuff, but so is the price.

KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB KYB

You get the idea. :D