I am doing a Poll

I want to find out what kind of Systems AMC'Rs like.

1. SQ Freak, Who would like his system to sound authentic so if you played a Concerto or Rock Music it would sound like you are actually There with an Emphasis on Front Stage Sounding. You spend a Fortune on Getting High Quality Speakers up front and have your Rears turned off and Only like a little bit of Bass for it to sound natural.


2. Bass Junkie. You like your Bass Beats to shake the car and feel like you are at a Night Club with the Sounds pumping from all directions With no Emphasis on Front Stage or Rear Stage. You Would much prefer to spend your Money on High Quality Bass Loving Subs and 6x9's then High Quality Splits.. You will Prefer to have no boot space at all as long as your Subs are happy

3.General Cruiser.
You like Your music to sound and look cool.. You buy the best you can afford and spend more money on making your system look good then sound good..
You would buy a $150 Chromed Sub then a $150 plain Black looking subs that sound better, you have Neons to illuminate all the Chrome in your Car Stereo system..

4.Road Theatre.
You want to watch movies with accurate 7.1 system. you cut holes for centre speakers and spend money on time alignment gear so it sounds like you are in the Theatre with TV Screens all around

Hmm.. I don't really fit in to any of those categories, but I voted SQ freak because I bought the best I could afford for quality but paid no attention to aesthetics, yet my amp and speakers combined barely hit $1500

i just chose bass junkie, since i have a 15 with a few thousand watts rms into it.

however, i do care about aethsetics and yes, i do care about staging as well. I'm somewhere betweeen General cruiser and Bass Junkie...with a hint of SQ freak :D

I'd have to have my own category, I want SQ but with a fair amount of bass. My system is good, better than the average schmo who has JB HiFi gear wrapped up in their car. Nothing fantastic, no $10,000 rainbow splits or anything crazy but.

This will help us in the Near future as to what advice to recommend..
Not much point telling an SQ Freak to install 6x9's down on the Back shelf when they don't use them where as the same point not much point telling a Bass Head to Ditch his 6x9's for a Set of Splits..

At the Moment there are Equal Bass Junkies and SQ Freaks with a few General Cruisers...

Bass Junkies are still interested in good quality Sounding Tunes, but an Emphasis on Bass rather then staging

yeah, and idiot can put too much bass in their car. whereas staging and getting the right balance between everything takes....well, screw that! :badgrin:

i put mine as general cruiser ... though it has bass but the mids still sound good but still like to watch some clips ... so could'nt really find 1 to suit mine

lol @ "SQ freak" compared to "Bass Junkie"
Trying to sway the results I see... How about some unbiased tests :P

Do you want to know what people have? Or what people want to have?

I wouldnt say i fit any of them I'll vote SQ. but my definition of SQ is different to what you think my car sounds like.

For me I want sound that is flat. getting a 30 hz tone to overcome road noise at speed requires lots of volume. And lots of bass...

It's true... anyone can get a big sub with a big amp put it in a ported box and let it rip. Making a system sound 'good' not loud is where the challenge is...

Peace

Tim

I either have a stereo that sounds nice or i dont have one at all so i think im a SQ freak lol.

No Tim, no swaying the Votes.. Ture Bass Jukies and SQ Freaks have always been opposed but the aim is the same... To have the best sounding system to their ears...

I either have a stereo that sounds nice or i dont have one at all so i think im a SQ freak lol.

I was going to put in a 5th one of " As long as it sounds good to me" catergorie but it is very hard for us to give advice to those who already know what they want...


SQ Freaks have the lead ..

No Road theatres yet, just wait for those who have screens to vote...

I love the bass but i also like some quality sound coming from the front.

General Cruisers are on the Rise.. Good to see..

We need a slide rule, no one here is going for one category fully. we're all just i want sq and bass.

But i choose sq cos i don't have enough watts to be classified as bass, hahaha i wish i had bass though.

I'm a bass junkie..but sort of a sq freak too

i look at and listen to a pair of $130 6x9`s and think "well, sounds good enough to me", wheras others on here will look spend around $500 on a pair of speakers. Personally i cant hear the difference so im more than happy to settle for a cheaper set of speakers..

but when it comes to bass, i want it to nearly overpower the over notes...depending on the style of music...i like this sorta thing for my dance/trance/hiphip, but its far too much for rock/heavy metal and personally i think anything more than a slight amount of bass ruins the quality of these types of songs significantly

Also..theres a big difference between the system i want (capable of above) and the system i have..a dodgy cassette deck/radio with 2 dash speakers muffled by a dashmat :P f*#$ing w00t

how many watts do you need to be classified for bass ?

how many watts do you need to be classified for bass ?

600rms min to the woofer

wheres option "D" all of the above ?, cause that would be me and probably a lot of members to :D

yeah, defiently all of the above.

The system has to be able to sound very good so when that favourite song comes on and you can hear all the fine details its amazing, staging isnt that hard to setup so anyone can do it really.
but when needed the bass can be cranked up and make your eye balls vibrate in the socket. :bowrofl:

Also the carputer makes it good for watching movies on the long trips.

Some people just gotta have it alll lol

i really dun have a clue when it comes to car audio

why does an 'SQ freak' have to invest signifcantly on the fronts and not the rears? is it because the rear speakers of magna's are 6x9s and their purpose is to give bass rather than treble?

guess i m both an SQ freak and Bass Junkie coz i listen to canto songs (SQ) but then i like Rap, Hip Hop and Alternative (Linkin Park) etc

i really dun have a clue when it comes to car audio

why does an 'SQ freak' have to invest signifcantly on the fronts and not the rears? is it because the rear speakers of magna's are 6x9s and their purpose is to give bass rather than treble?

guess i m both an SQ freak and Bass Junkie coz i listen to canto songs (SQ) but then i like Rap, Hip Hop and Alternative (Linkin Park) etc

SQ Freaks do not beleive that Rear speakers are Necessary in a System, your Front stage should provide all the sounds you need apart from the little bit of Sub bass required..

A Bass Junkie likes to have 6x9's as they do Generate good loads of Bass and Balanced Treble..

A General Cruiser will have 6x9's to show off their Cool looking Cones and the nice Doof Sound they make ..

I'm more of n sq freak, a sytem needs to sound good and be able to cover 20hz-20khz with minimal fade points, I try and aim for 6 or less but not easy, keeping a constant volume all the way. currently got mine down to 8 fade points but still workn on a perfect system.

I think some people are at a loss on the definitions here.


An SQ freak wants quality audio. What this means is creating a 'sound stage' in the front similar to when a band is playing at a concert. They don't want 'noise' coming from 360 degrees, which is why rear speakers are not necessary (but can be beneficial if it were designed properly). Basically these guys also want a particularly flat response curve, meaning the bass of the song should be proportional to the treble. Huge boosts in bass isn't the key area. Listeners want to be able to hear where each instrument is played on stage, just as the producer intended it to be.

I reckon SQ freak's are in the same category to those who call Home Theatre systems are '****' for listening to music (this is true, my biased opinion :) ).


Now a Bass Junkie wants to produce lots of sound (or noise :bowrofl: ). Mostly focusing on the bottom end. They're intention is to either: a) Feel like they are in a Nightclub, b) To grab the public attention :P

Okay on a serious technical note, they are after loudness without distortion.

Wow We have a really Close Audio Community..
There is no significant leader, SQ Freaks are still in front with 24
Bass Junkies on 18
General Cruisers are on 19..
Road Theatres still have 2...

So really we are generally very aware of what we want to achieve with our Car audio...

General Cruisers get my respect, they are willing to achieve looks aswell as sounds.. a very admirable goal..

there needs to be a "loud-as-F&(K SQ" category... i like mine SQ, bout as loud as possible... (where u can see your passengers squirm is always a requirement)

although i did choose road theatre coz i have 5.1, i like to make it as neat looking as possible... soo yeah... just add a tick in every box?

Not always, see some "SQ freaks" like myself... HATE concert music.
I need the sound coming 360 degrees, sounds so much better.
So having front and rear speakers are a big priority for me, but of course while trying to get best SQ as possible. but with that, NO 6*9s.

Rears a 6.5 focals and fronts im still deciding (this is how my new system will be arranged)

Having all the music coming from the front stage is just ones persons idea of SQ, thats because thats the type of music their use to (concert music etc)

also on the note of SQ..its seems all good an well to have a stage at the front, but for those of us who carry rear passengers quite regulalrly, it just not practical to have only front speakers, as ive found what may sound good in front will often sound of lesser quality in the back unless its quite loud..

Its also a judging requirement in soundoffs aswell. They judge you on staging(front only)

despite being a 'bass junkie' and a rather loud sub, i still want my music coming from the front. I only ever fade to the rear if i have passengers.

im supposed to have good midbass with my 6.5" PG splits, but the plastic baffle and hollow metal door isn't helping at all.

SQ is important to me, yet my response curve looks like a ass. I lack a lot of midbass, but sub bass is MORE than enuf. GOod for rattling side mirrors, but i don't get the chest vibrations.

I get hair standing on end Kidney Rumbling Bass.. So I also like reasonable Quality, I mean I much prefer the Tunes out of a set of splits then Dual cone speakers.. But I cannot live without my 6x9's they just sound so Dominant...

also on the note of SQ..its seems all good an well to have a stage at the front, but for those of us who carry rear passengers quite regulalrly, it just not practical to have only front speakers, as ive found what may sound good in front will often sound of lesser quality in the back unless its quite loud..
Who cares about rear passengers... :badgrin:

I pay for all the gadgets and I'm the driver with the remotecontrol, so only I count. :cool:

All my soundstage tuning is done from front seat only.


That said, rear seat soundstaging is bloody difficult. I ain't gunna bother mounting
direct-aimed tweeters on the B-pillars, nor do I have a windscreen to use as
tweeter deflectors. No passenger is also gunna sit in the middle if they choosed.


If I were kind I'd give rear seaters a videoscreen and headphones.

And a big sign "NO WE'RE NOT THERE YET!" :doubt:

Originally Posted by Colgate
how many watts do you need to be classified for bass ?

600rms min to the woofer
:dancin: Yessssss, I'm puttin in 655RMS from my 600.1 so i can just be classified as a bass junky :dancin:

As I basically never post or even look in the audio section, I can't vote here, as I would need another category:
Cheap as, but meets needs.

I have a JVC MP3 head unit that cost less than $200. That's it, with stock speakers (4" front, 6" rear). There are times I would like more bass, so I could fade to the front, but can't justify the costs.

Im all confused.. I have fully deadened doors with 6inch Boston splits very well staged that everyone loves running off a SRx2, sony 6x9's that run off the deck and a SRx2s running the G5.

The way it is set up is as follows ( Pioneer deck 5650mp),
EQ Low 0, Mid +1, High 0
Low 40Hz/ Q2W, Mid 500Hz/ Q1W, High 8kHz/ Q2W
All HPF and bass/ treble, loud turned off
Preout front runs splits, HPF on deck is off, Audison HPF 60-70Hz @ 12db/octave
Rear headunit channels running 6x9's, inline capacitors HP them at 100-120Hz
Preout rear runs sub, it is actually set on full and not sub as i find the sub control quiet intrusive to the sound, can still be adjusted through Fade which is on 0. Sub is LP 85Hz @ 24db/octave.
Max Volume 52 :badgrin:

G5 in a sealed 0.95cuft box running off 600WRMS+ with an ultra flat curve that can bring up your last nights dinner.... yes please. But then the front stage is just so nice that it all works together so when people hear it they say dam I like you sub, or i like your splits or i like the way your car sounds. :D