Theres not that much talk about pedders its all kings or lovell (for lowering this is )

whats poeples thought on pedders springs ? there well known

might be getting some soonish! from pedders for the bday?

You'll get alot of people trashing Pedders products. I believe King Springs are cheaper though (?)

That said, I put Pedders Sportsryder coils on my previous TH Sports, and they were good.

i had pedders on my old Tr .. did'nt think they were much chop so they were replaced with lovells ... my TJ has lovells in it as well ... i would'nt buy pedders again

the general concensus with pedders springs is that they are more expensive then kings and not as good a product. Loose loose situation really.

Get whoever to buy you some king springs for your bday. Also you should replace your shocks aswell if your going to lower your car otherwise you will kill them

the general concensus with pedders springs is that they are more expensive then kings and not as good a product. Loose loose situation really.
That 'general consesus' is usually from people who have never used their products.

Awhile ago there was a nice little smear campaign against pedders on the intarweb. All the people who read it decided it was all true :shock: and have since bagged it till the cows come home.

Ive had pedders suspension in my old XF Falcon and it wasnt a problem. My parents currently tow their Caravan using pedders for the past 6 years.. No problem.

Some people have had bad experiences with them in year gone past (Pedders shocks, not springs). But with todays technologies i believe they are just as good as the other packages out there.

I have Superlow fronts and Low rear Pedders springs, cost me $300 fitted. I'm really happy with them, have no problems. There much firmer than standards which is good. I have Pedders sports rider struts all round now aswell, awsome for handling and still a good ride, they were $720 fitted. They come with a 2 year unlimited warranty aswell, apparently everyting Pedders come with that warranty.

I agree with Bain and Sports.

I never had a problem with them; no sagging or squeaking etc.

I've had mine for 8 months and can't complain, they're great. Good service too from the pedders franchise in Newcastle. They even rang me 2 weeks later to come back in for a free second wheel alignment and checkup, after they'd settled a bit. A+ I.M.O.

Pedders springs are good.. I got them in my car.. Even with the 20`s it rides like its still on 17`s... :D

Would recommend them to anyone.. :D

I didn't like the Pedders springs I put in my Verada, I expected firm but these were rock hard. Made a comfortable car into a very harsh riding car. Ended up pulling them out and put springs out of a TH sports in. I'll try Kings next time.

I didn't like the Pedders springs I put in my Verada, I expected firm but these were rock hard. Made a comfortable car into a very harsh riding car. Ended up pulling them out and put springs out of a TH sports in. I'll try Kings next time.

Did you change your shocks too?? This may be the reason why if you did'nt. VRX and Sports don't have to for the 40 mm drop I got.

people..im slow so bare with me, ive got a stock th exec..if i went into pedders and wanted to lower my car on super lows at the front and lows at the rear, how much would that be fitted? is that all to pay for or is there more id need to do..im just after a ball park figure here cos im not sure wat mods to do

Did you change your shocks too?? This may be the reason why if you did'nt. VRX and Sports don't have to for the 40 mm drop I got.

No I didn't change shocks. Does anyone have or know who makes progressive springs? ie soft under low compression but firmer as they compress more? The pedders ones don't appear to be. I was thinking that it could be the way to retain some comfort but still be firm.

To get it lowered with springs only youre looking at 350 - 450. With new shocks add another 600 onto that figure.

The above prices should include a 4 wheel wheel alignement.

No I didn't change shocks. Does anyone have or know who makes progressive springs? ie soft under low compression but firmer as they compress more? The pedders ones don't appear to be. I was thinking that it could be the way to retain some comfort but still be firm.

I fitted pedders super lows alround to a friends TF sedan a few months ago and the rear springs were variable (progressive) rate

I wasted a grand with pedders.

Put the low's, not super lows on a KE when new. Rear ok but front banged like nothing else. The problem is the two top and two bottom coils slap eachother over bumps giving a thud through the car.
I then lowered my KH with them again thinking they would of fixed the design fault by then. Nup, same deal, rears ok but fronts still slapping and loud thudding through car over the smallest bumps or uneaven roads. Ended up changing them both to King lows. Never had a problem since.
Kings are a stiffer spring meaning pedders give you a more comfy ride but i can sacrifice a bit of ride quality for a quiet suspension set up.

An expensive mistake and will steer well clear of Pedders. Even my mechanic said that he cant stand pedders. He recons their struts leak and fail in half the time of any others.

There use to be a web site where pedders employees would bag the crap out of their own products without Ron knowing but it has been closed down. Not much confidence if their own staff have no faith in their product.

I've got pedders super lows front and back. They have been in the car for about 6 months now and i haven't had any problems with them. I think they cost me about 350 front and back, i also fitted them myself to save me some more $$

There use to be a web site where pedders employees would bag the crap out of their own products without Ron knowing but it has been closed down. Not much confidence if their own staff have no faith in their product.
It wasnt a website that Employers would bag the products. It was a guy who brought a Pedders Francise on the basis he was going to get X amount of customers a month. It didnt happen because another Pedders opened up close by.

The owner got angry and started a website dedicated to smearing the name of Pedders because the Heads of Pedders wouldnt help in the matter.

I wasted a grand with pedders.

Put the low's, not super lows on a KE when new. Rear ok but front banged like nothing else. The problem is the two top and two bottom coils slap eachother over bumps giving a thud through the car.
I then lowered my KH with them again thinking they would of fixed the design fault by then. Nup, same deal, rears ok but fronts still slapping and loud thudding through car over the smallest bumps or uneaven roads. Ended up changing them both to King lows. Never had a problem since.
Kings are a stiffer spring meaning pedders give you a more comfy ride but i can sacrifice a bit of ride quality for a quiet suspension set up.

An expensive mistake and will steer well clear of Pedders. Even my mechanic said that he cant stand pedders. He recons their struts leak and fail in half the time of any others.

There use to be a web site where pedders employees would bag the crap out of their own products without Ron knowing but it has been closed down. Not much confidence if their own staff have no faith in their product.

Yes, I also found the fronts noisy. I thought it was maybe because the factory spring have a plastic coil around the bottom of the springs, the pedders ones don't. It stops the coils slapping together, as you were saying.

i went to pedders to get all 4 struts done when i owned my pulsar, cost $1170, I couldn't work that out
Strut - $135 each = $540
Where the hell was the othe $630 going too, because thats a bit steep for labour
So I went to my dads mechanic and paid $680 all up and paid an extra $30 for a wheel alignment somewhere else

Thats my reason for hating pedders now i just go to my dads mechanic for everything that i can't do myself

But then again the one near me is owned by an idiot :gtfo:

I guess at the end of the day, there all franchised out, so each store is going to be different, thankfully my expirience was an ok one with them

I got mine lowered by pedders, and have been very happy with my springs. Great service, guys dropped me back at work, and came pick me up when I had finished work at 5. They were still just finishing up on it when i got there (friday arvo) sat down with the boss, offered me a beer while i was waiting. quoted me 600 to get it done, and thats how much it was (with camber kit) Asked me to come back in 2 weeks to get a re-alignment to make sure everything was ok, took another 20mins during my lunch break

Now looking back on this, i could of got it done cheaper, but shop was on otherside of town, and i couldnt be f****d getting it done in work time. I should of waited, and got it done at the cheaper shop

Yes, I also found the fronts noisy. I thought it was maybe because the factory spring have a plastic coil around the bottom of the springs, the pedders ones don't. It stops the coils slapping together, as you were saying.

I am shocked :shock:
Why would they not have put in the plastic spring insulators? That would be your first point of diagnosis for your noise front end!

Yeah they dont put the insulators on when they install the springs.
When i went back and complained about them, after a lot of convincing they put on the plastic strips. It did the job for a whole 2 weeks until the tapping had worn through the plastic. Dodgy fix in my opinion. Just shows that even Mitsub have a fault with their factory springs having to fit that stuff.

I found the longest lasting insulator was a really hard grade garden hose. I just cut it into pieces about an inch long and then slit it down the middle and slipped them over the coils. They lasted about a month before they had worn through. Thats when i pissed off the pedders and put on Kings. I wasnt going to be jacking my car up every month and putting garden hose on my springs to shut them up because pedders make dodgy ****.

so are you running any kind of insulators on your king springs?

OK I am on my second set of Pedder's Sports Rider Springs & Shocks super low...The first set was fitted to my old TH sports (then it was written off) Got another set fitted to my TF sports...Pedders have taken the time to setup/match proper Spring rates/ Shock rates etc + lotsa on road testing. If your outside VIC then no one is going to recommend Pedder's due to after sale’s support/ locations etc. But if your in Vic and you want Pedder's gear (superlow only) then you can't go wrong...
PS I am going to get rid of my Pedder's spring/shocks as need the adjustability of coilovers...but they are in perfect condition after 60000kms and have been the best mod ever done to any car owned...

OK I am on my second set of Pedder's Sports Rider Springs & Shocks super low...The first set was fitted to my old TH sports (then it was written off) Got another set fitted to my TF sports...Pedders have taken the time to setup/match proper Spring rates/ Shock rates etc + lotsa on road testing. If your outside VIC then no one is going to recommend Pedder's due to after sale’s support/ locations etc. But if your in Vic and you want Pedder's gear (superlow only) then you can't go wrong...
PS I am going to get rid of my Pedder's spring/shocks as need the adjustability of coilovers...but they are in perfect condition after 60000kms and have been the best mod ever done to any car owned...
when are you getting rid of em ?? im going to need some shocks soonish!

My 2 Cents worth(or with GST and rounding off that would now be 5 cents) is I have had all my TH's suspension - front strut tower, lowered custom (firmer spring rate) springs, strut inserts & shocks, camber kit, poly bushes throughout front and rear, 24mm custom front solid bar and 22 rear adjustable rear swaybars and my alignments all done by Peddars in Mitcham VIC for 2 years and they have always been great with advise and service.

And I have had no problems with the car at all.

I think it is the people you deal with. The ones who are great are always used heaps. The bad ones go bust and leave a wake of dissatisfied customers behind them.

Peddars have suffered from some very poor franshcise owners in recent times and that has spoiled it for all of them and there are some good ones out there.

Cheers

I've used them aswell and the guys at the store i went to were more then helpfull even had the springs custom made for me cause they were to soft. And pedders springs dont break as regulary as kings springs, were i used to work we were a large supplier of kings springs in qld and the warranty returns were huge but a friend worked at pedders and the had nearly a 0% return o there coils. I use kings springs now and dont really like them but they are alot cheaper

Yes, I also found the fronts noisy. I thought it was maybe because the factory spring have a plastic coil around the bottom of the springs, the pedders ones don't. It stops the coils slapping together, as you were saying.

i have pedders superlow springs in my ralliart with the standard koni's, they are hell noisy but i thought it was the shocks... care to elaborate

they are a stiff spring... i run 17" tyres and that would be slightly better than the 18s that some of you guys have, i got the front set for $127 at trade price.

to me, they don't seem to have the expert advice that some other places may have. some of them dont seem to be in it as something they might enjoy.

i went to one at granville and wanted genuine advice on whther i need shocks, because the previous owner had the car way too low(btw can anyone tell me?) i asled for a simple shock test. but instead he palmed of a $820 4 corner shock package with w/align

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You shouldn't need new shocks, the Koni reds are a very good shock. Superlows have basically no give in them at all and so are a very rough ride. That's the reason I'm keeping my suspension stock unless I can afford Coilovers.

Yes, I also found the fronts noisy. I thought it was maybe because the factory spring have a plastic coil around the bottom of the springs, the pedders ones don't. It stops the coils slapping together, as you were saying.

the plastic coil is called a dampener. you can usually just take them off and fit them on new springs.

they reduce noise and i think vibrations.