Help I got an '93 TR magna 4 Cly engine thats burning oil and smoking out the exhaust ! So far its still managable ... what can I do about it ? I'm still studying so is there any way I can fix this DIY ? Heard it maybe the piston gasket/seal ? Dunno which one is gone but need a way to fix it asap ! Any advice that doesnt require me to sqend too much money is well appreciated, thanks guys !

Help I got an '93 TR magna 4 Cly engine thats burning oil and smoking out the exhaust ! So far its still managable ... what can I do about it ? I'm still studying so is there any way I can fix this DIY ? Heard it maybe the piston gasket/seal ? Dunno which one is gone but need a way to fix it asap ! Any advice that doesnt require me to sqend too much money is well appreciated, thanks guys !
It may also be valve stem seals. All these cost money to fix as they need to take the head off etc.
Try putting some Wynns Stop Smoke or Stop Leak with your engine oil after an oil change to see
if it helps. Does blue smoke come out the exhaust (i.e. during start-up, prolonged idling etc)?

well i do get a lot of smooke just after startup and sometimes during idling ... not sure if its blue or not ... but everytime i check my dipstick the level just kees getting lower. Yep I check it daily in the morning B4 I start up the car ..... help help help !

well i do get a lot of smooke just after startup and sometimes during idling ... not sure if its blue or not ... but everytime i check my dipstick the level just kees getting lower. Yep I check it daily in the morning B4 I start up the car ..... help help help !
That'll definitely be worn valve stem seals. I had the same problem with my KS Verada. Try putting
some stop smoke etc with your next oil change. If it does not work then the only way to fix it is to
fit new valve stem seals.

Help I got an '93 TR magna 4 Cly engine thats burning oil and smoking out the exhaust ! So far its still managable ... what can I do about it ? I'm still studying so is there any way I can fix this DIY ? Heard it maybe the piston gasket/seal ? Dunno which one is gone but need a way to fix it asap ! Any advice that doesnt require me to sqend too much money is well appreciated, thanks guys !

mines been doing that since I got it, it still goes allrite tho.

Does it smoke all the time or only when you step on the petrol?

If it smokes all the time, without stopping, your piston rings have had it, which requires the engine to be pulled apart and have the rings changed. This could cost anywhere from $1000 to $3500...

If it only smokes when you step on the juice, then it's your valve stem seals, they're small plastic and steel rings that sit in the head around the valve stem and stop oil entering the cylinders via the valves. The seals are about ~$6 each from Mitsubishi, and they can be changed with the engine in the car, but it's a long and difficult job, mechanics might charge between $100 and $1000 to do it... My 3L needs it's seals changed, and my mechanic quoted me $900 to change 12 seals...

Does it smoke all the time or only when you step on the petrol?

If it smokes all the time, without stopping, your piston rings have had it, which requires the engine to be pulled apart and have the rings changed. This could cost anywhere from $1000 to $3500...

If it only smokes when you step on the juice, then it's your valve stem seals, they're small plastic and steel rings that sit in the head around the valve stem and stop oil entering the cylinders via the valves. The seals are about ~$6 each from Mitsubishi, and they can be changed with the engine in the car, but it's a long and difficult job, mechanics might charge between $100 and $1000 to do it... My 3L needs it's seals changed, and my mechanic quoted me $900 to change 12 seals...
Yeah i know they do cost a bit to do, But i got mine done by Mal and he only charged me about $350, Plus he did other little things to it as well. He lives in South Australia. And nows heaps about Magna/Verada's Maybe PM him he might be able to tell you. I think his name on here is madmagna.

If it smokes all the time, without stopping, your piston rings have had it, which requires the engine to be pulled apart and have the rings changed. This could cost anywhere from $1000 to $3500...
nah, a swapover AstronII could be as low as $1200-1500 fitted/warrantied.

The engine would be reconditioned and run like a new one.


If it only smokes when you step on the juice, then it's your valve stem seals, they're small plastic and steel rings that sit in the head around the valve stem and stop oil entering the cylinders via the valves. The seals are about ~$6 each from Mitsubishi, and they can be changed with the engine in the car, but it's a long and difficult job, mechanics might charge between $100 and $1000 to do it... My 3L needs it's seals changed, and my mechanic quoted me $900 to change 12 seals...
4cyl only 8 valves.

Head access on AstronII is so much easier than V6. At least you don't have
to yank off the intake manifold and all its gadgetry.

I'm getting my valve seals done on friday, $150 including labour :).

Please just post your thread in one section of the forum mate.

Ok ok so a change of stem valve seals is in order ... next qns ...

1. Can I just go to the wreckers and pull them off another similar model car or a later model car (My car's a '93 TR 4 Cyl)?
2. If not possible where is the cheapest place/person (Free Beer to the one who can help to change it for me) to do this :bowrofl:
3. Seems like I'm not the only one with this problem kinda common anyone wanna do a group repair or something like that ?


Thanks for the advise guys !

To answer your questions.

1. No, As suggested by another member they are only roughly $6 Each. There is no use in swapping them over, rule out the wreckers. (Theres only 8 - 4cyl)

2 & 3. ASK TR-ENVY where he is getting hes done OR Pm 'RHINO' and ask for a price.

hope this helps

sorry to highjack the thread ...

but i think i am having a similar problem ... white smoke from the exhaust on start up, not when running, funny sorta smell after drive, and very recently it has chewed a bit of fuel, yet the oil has not reduced or anything ?? any ideas ?

rite man .... not too sure whats happening but i'm going to change the oil to the 20W-50 and put some oil additives like the stop smoke plus the stop leak into the crank case and see if it stops the burning oil problem. also have the noisy lifters thing ... .just noticed it today ... funny was thinking what else could go wrong. Next on my list is a auto oil change, gonna try and do it sometime soon. See if i have enough $ for a timing chain change too while i am at it

My TR needed Valve Stem seals replace as well. All it did was blow black smoke. Not a safety issue, but yeah, do it if you think you have to. Costs a bit, all the cost is in the labour, just like a timing belt service - around 400 bucks.
Its normal for a car to blow out white smoke on startup when its cold, so make sure its not that first.

Does anyone have a TR that dosent vibrate whilst paused at the lights in DRIVE???


Anyone fixed this problem.......?

Does anyone have a TR that dosent vibrate whilst paused at the lights in DRIVE???


Anyone fixed this problem.......?

Thats not a problem. That's normal.

sorry to highjack the thread ...

but i think i am having a similar problem ... white smoke from the exhaust on start up, not when running, funny sorta smell after drive, and very recently it has chewed a bit of fuel, yet the oil has not reduced or anything ?? any ideas ?


white smoke usually indicates that your burning water, i'd suggest taking it to a mechanic and getting a compression test done on your car and maybe even a cooling system test.

We've had quite a few cars in at work blowing white smoke and usually it a cracked head or blown head gasket. comp test will show up either of these problems. Most mechanics will have the riht stuff to test it

Thats not a problem. That's normal.

But I mean alot of vibration, steering wheel goin up and down?


Whilst in Drive, in Neutral its quite...

This isnt normal

check your engine mounts to see if any are broken, and check the idle control motor to see if it is workn properly.

check your engine mounts to see if any are broken, and check the idle control motor to see if it is workn properly.

All fine & idle control motor also good.

& all leads/caps/spark plugs good. Also had Fuel pump replaced in Feb 05

Car just had a service this week & valve stem seals done.

Its got me stumped

i have a 4cyl ts no vibration at the lights what so ever - they do exist

Mine doesn't idle rough, it used to though.
Try a bottle of injector cleaner.
ummm also check to see if your idle has been set too low, should be idling between 6-800, i know if mine drops below 550-500 it get's abit rough, but usually only on a REALLY cold morning if i havn't warmed the car up enough, you'll probably notice it more when it's cold if its an idle issue.

ummm also check to see if your idle has been set too low, should be idling between 6-800, i know if mine drops below 550-500 it get's abit rough,

should be idling between 6-800 ? this on start up, coz mine does about 1000-1100
:confused:

should be idling between 6-800 ? this on start up, coz mine does about 1000-1100
:confused:

mine is everything from 800-1200, i wouldnt worry too much.

Help I got an '93 TR magna 4 Cly engine thats burning oil and smoking out the exhaust ! So far its still managable ... what can I do about it ? I'm still studying so is there any way I can fix this DIY ? Heard it maybe the piston gasket/seal ? Dunno which one is gone but need a way to fix it asap ! Any advice that doesnt require me to sqend too much money is well appreciated, thanks guys !


I spent 26 years working out bush on heavy plant from a service truck.When I had to do valve stem seals I knocked the innards out of an old spark plug and braised an air hose fitting onto it and screwed that into the cylinder i wanted to work on.I then pressurised the cylinder with air from my air compressor(100psi)and that held the valves up in position while I removed collets,springs etc to change the seals.It savedthe bother of pulling a motor apart.

should be idling between 6-800 ? this on start up, coz mine does about 1000-1100
:confused:
No that's when the car is warm and at idle, on start up when the engine is cold it'll be anywhere between 1000 and 1500.

thxn for the clarity guys

If this helps...

Look at your "smoke" closely...

White = Water vapor or steam - Disipates quickly into the atmosphere - normal on cold mornings - continuous steam and empty cooling system, not normal.

Blue = Burnt oil - Hangs around in the air more - smells bad - oil is getting into your combustion, not normal - watch the dip stick.

Black = Fuel mixture too rich - if not corrected can lead to blue in the long run.

PS. I've tried the stop smoke stuff b 4, never really worked for me, had better luck using thicker oil... head down to your local coles carpark with a ice-cream container and a spanner :shifty: