We recently purchased a '02 Magna Advance TJ series 2 with 30,000k on the clock, and so far have had a lot of problems with air leaking into the cabin around the front windows. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, whats the best way to get it fixed, its been back to the dealers several times now for 'adjustments', and so far nothing has helped. The service guys are sick of seeing us, and have told us that this is common in Magna's, and that they can no longer help us. The air begins to leak in at 70kmh, and is very loud at 100kmh. Apart from that, and a rattle in the drivers door, the car is fine.
Any help would be greatfully appreciated.
Thanks

No Josh is something wrong with this car. Maybe is after accident? Even at 120 km/h, air can’t leak into the cabin.

sounds like the door seals are a bit had it to me.... i had mine redone a while back (underwarranty :D ) as once you hit around 80km/h it was started to be annoying.... Also because the window gets pushed against the seal by air pressure at more normal speeds, a situation can arrise where for some reason there is a lull in this pressure the window can "pop" out! it happened to me really badly at around 160km/h one day and scared the living crap out of me!
The main idea is that the windows need to be tight in the door... otherwise the seal me not be as good.... and try not to close the door by pushing on the window!!!

You might find that the front window has been replaced.

Mine got a chip in it and had it replaced.. Had exactly the same symptoms as yours.

They resealed the glass and its wonderful now. All i hear is the drone of the VR-X Exhaust..

Due to the structure of the Magna frameless door windows, they are susceptible to "injuries". If the door has always been "banged" hard when closed, the mechanism gets loose and might not wind up correctly hence proper sealing is not happening. Also, simply, the seal could be hardened etc. But yours is only couple of years old - hard to imagine it's too worn out all together.
Does it close/seal firmly at all?



problems with air leaking into the cabin around the front windows.Thanks

Due to the structure of the Magna frameless door windows, they are susceptible to "injuries". If the door has always been "banged" hard when closed, the mechanism gets loose and might not wind up correctly hence proper sealing is not happening. Also, simply, the seal could be hardened etc. But yours is only couple of years old - hard to imagine it's too worn out all together.
Does it close/seal firmly at all?


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i amarald the seals this stops them from hardening and keeps em nice and black for looks, perhaps you can get them to put new seals in or try puttin some protectant on over a few days hoping it will seep in and loosen it all up.

it appears too...the mechanics at the car yard where we bought it have adjusted the windows. On the passenger's side, they've made the problem worse! I've spoken to the salesman today about replacing the seal on that side to see if it improves it, but they are not prepared to pay for it, thats up to me to do. The car itself does not seem to have been in an accident. It recently had the bonnet resprayed due to a small patch of paint that had faded, and the panel beater couldn't see any sign of damage to the car itself. We've only had the car 2 months, and it goes back on friday for the 9th time to be looked at, each time requiring a round trip of 70k's.

I know this may sound stupid, but does it still make a noise if you wind down the window slightly? It may not actually be the window(s), it could just sound like it's coming from the window seals.

Workable idea.
BTW, forgot to mention that mine (-96 TE) is bit noisy too. But there is no gaps in the seal as such. Mirrors? Wind noise is audiable say, after 70 km/h.
The thought of incoming air "pushing" the windows open a bit more hence creating a larger gap sounds logical, but does it really happen - I need to chek next time.
Now - even more stupid idea :idea:
Tape/seal the window glass to the seal with ducting tape to totally block the gap and test. If this stops the wind noise, then you know it is due to some air leakage, or seal failure. But don't do it where there is too many Dunnydoors or Fords in the area - we don't wanna see any pics of Magnas going around with Bathurst Grade 100 mile tape holding it together.... :evil:


I know this may sound stupid, but does it still make a noise if you wind down the window slightly? It may not actually be the window(s), it could just sound like it's coming from the window seals.

We just got the car back from the dealership, with a new window seal installed on the passenger's side...and the problem has been solved. Not a bit of noise coming into the cabin on that side. The drivers side will be done next week, many thanks to the ppl who responded!.

High frequency sounds get attenuated a lot by the door and window. So it's pretty easy to tell the difference between a noisy vortex just outside your window and a gap in the seal. The gap in the seal (like I have) has more high frequencies.