well this is how my story goes. i bought a 1990 tp magna 4 weeks ago for $1400 and planned to make it reliable and rwc. so i put in new suspenion, new brakes and discs,
new interior carpet , spark plugs,engine oil, auto trans oil ,dizzy cap, air fillter,tyres,fuel fillter,flushed the radiator and put in new coolantand bought a new $350 optima batteryand a few other things. all i have left is to paint it which im waiting for good weather. so today i put in the new battery so i could move it but it won't start.havent started it for a week. the engines in good nick and only got 98000 on the clock, amost looks new. since ive had it ,it always started first time without a hint of trouble.when i turn the key it kicks over 3-4 times then i get a sound near the fuel injection area. if i let it it'll keep going but every 3-4 turns this noise happens almost like its fighting to go past the 5th turn. any suggestions????
maybe i thought the battery was to powerfull so i have an old one which im charging to see if it makes a difference.anyone else had this prob. the cars only had 1 old lady owner who always serviced it so its in good nick mech. cant understand what happened. :nuts:

well this is how my story goes. i bought a 1990 tp magna 4 weeks ago for $1400 and planned to make it reliable and rwc. so i put in new suspenion, new brakes and discs,
new interior carpet , spark plugs,engine oil, auto trans oil ,dizzy cap, air fillter,tyres,fuel fillter,flushed the radiator and put in new coolantand bought a new $350 optima batteryand a few other things. all i have left is to paint it which im waiting for good weather. so today i put in the new battery so i could move it but it won't start.havent started it for a week. the engines in good nick and only got 98000 on the clock, amost looks new. since ive had it ,it always started first time without a hint of trouble.when i turn the key it kicks over 3-4 times then i get a sound near the fuel injection area. if i let it it'll keep going but every 3-4 turns this noise happens almost like its fighting to go past the 5th turn. any suggestions????
maybe i thought the battery was to powerfull so i have an old one which im charging to see if it makes a difference.anyone else had this prob. the cars only had 1 old lady owner who always serviced it so its in good nick mech. cant understand what happened. :nuts:
well its not the battery , same thing happens. seems like after a few revolutins it gets stuck
and a small grinding noise happens a a slight smell of metal,now im thinking it might be a cyl or cam or crank shaft acting up any suggestions??

have you tried putting the original battery back in ?

have you tried putting the original battery back in ?
yea that was the first thing i did only differce was it did it slow but with the same results
WELL WELL i did just notice a stupid thing i had done. i had put the leads one lead over to start instead of starting no.1 at the top. but it still wont start just keeps turning over ,wont fire into life maye thats cos i tried to start it with the leads in the wrong place and used up the fuel in the fuel injection ie ran it dry. now the leads are where there supposed to be can anyone tell me how to get it to fire??

...maye thats cos i tried to start it with the leads in the wrong place and used up the fuel in the fuel injection ie ran it dry.

nope not that, you fuel pump primes the lines first before it starts turning over. Are you sure theres spark? how about fuel?

change ur starter motor -_-

nope not that, you fuel pump primes the lines first before it starts turning over. Are you sure theres spark? how about fuel?
it's got half a tank and new fillter was put in last week and was put in with the arrow pointing the right way and as for spark it got new dizzy cap, coil,and spark plugs only a week old.do u think i damaged it trying to start it with the leads in the wrong place??

change ur starter motor -_-
thing is it was running perfect last week when i ran it, now im stumped

you wouldnt have damaged antyhing i wouldnt think.

Take out a spark plug and turn it over to see if its sparking. Also with the spark plug out and the engine turning over there should be clouds of petrol gas coming out.

If you have spark and petrol, you didnt change the timing did you? that could be out.

you wouldnt have damaged antyhing i wouldnt think.

Take out a spark plug and turn it over to see if its sparking. Also with the spark plug out and the engine turning over there should be clouds of petrol gas coming out.

If you have spark and petrol, you didnt change the timing did you? that could be out.
ill take out the the spark plug.nope i didnt touch the timing
well ive got spark and fuel. can smell it also when i turn it over. dont know what else it could be????and it's not the starter cos it turns over with ease.the optima battery is very powerfull

sounds to me like the starter motor is ***, but there is one thing u can try before replacing that.
move your gear selector from park to drive back to park again, just to make sure its engaged park properly(it probably is). then turn the engine over with your accelerator pedal pushed to the floor to try and get it started.

sounds to me like the starter motor is ***, but there is one thing u can try before replacing that.
move your gear selector from park to drive back to park again, just to make sure its engaged park properly(it probably is). then turn the engine over with your accelerator pedal pushed to the floor to try and get it started.
ill give it a go brb
tryed it and still not working, But i pulled the pulg out again and now it not getting any spark so i guess ill have to replace the coil and or leads pitty it was working great when i last started it a week ago. :rant:

hmm make sure the lead going to the coil is pushing all the way down,somtimes they create a seal and the air doesnt get out. And same on the dissy cap. also make sure the dissy cap is securely on. also check the rotor arm is in the right position and on securely. From memory it has to be in a specific position.

Sounds like a starter motor to me, but it should kick before that.
If it hasnt got spark and it's injected it's probably the distributor, they seem to go fairly easily and without any warning.

hmm make sure the lead going to the coil is pushing all the way down,somtimes they create a seal and the air doesnt get out. And same on the dissy cap. also make sure the dissy cap is securely on. also check the rotor arm is in the right position and on securely. From memory it has to be in a specific position.
its all on tight and the dizzy is where its supose to be.

Sounds like a starter motor to me, but it should kick before that.
If it hasnt got spark and it's injected it's probably the distributor, they seem to go fairly easily and without any warning.
im gonna replace the coil and leads and see what happens.if that doesnt do it ill think about the dizzy and starter motor

I would bet that you have reversed the firing order, I have seen this done many times before.

This will give the exact effect you have described.

Remove the rocker cover, turn over the engine until the 2 cam lobes for no1 cyl are pointing down. Remove the dist cap and ensure the rotor is pointing at no1 on the dist cap and that this lead is the one going to the no1 plug.

Make sure you have the firing order correct as well.

You will not have damaged anything especially given that you have not been able to start the engine.

BTW, it is not a Magna Curse when it has stopped working after having done some work to it

I would bet that you have reversed the firing order, I have seen this done many times before.

This will give the exact effect you have described.

Remove the rocker cover, turn over the engine until the 2 cam lobes for no1 cyl are pointing down. Remove the dist cap and ensure the rotor is pointing at no1 on the dist cap and that this lead is the one going to the no1 plug.

Make sure you have the firing order correct as well.

You will not have damaged anything especially given that you have not been able to start the engine.

BTW, it is not a Magna Curse when it has stopped working after having done some work to it
the firing order is1-3-4-2. and when looking at the engine from the front of the car no.1 is at the top and it goes to the left, dosent it, toward the fuel injection 1-3-4-2 pls correct me if im wrong

when your looking at the car from the front No 1. is the the cyl to right, closest to the coil pack.

ok the correct order is:

top left dizzy goes to far right cyl
bottom left dizzy goes to middle-left cyl
bottom right dizzy goest to far left cyl
top right dizzy goes to middle-right cyl
middle dizzy, goes to the coil.

tell us how u go.

when your looking at the car from the front No 1. is the the cyl to right, closest to the coil pack.

ok the correct order is:

top left dizzy goes to far right cyl
bottom left dizzy goes to middle-left cyl
bottom right dizzy goest to far left cyl
top right dizzy goes to middle-right cyl
middle dizzy, goes to the coil.

tell us how u go.
ok ur discription is a little confusing, buy ill explain how mine goes. no.1 cly is closest to the coil, then it goes left toward the gearbox untill no.4. so it 4, 3, 2, 1, my first lead starts at the top almost centre a little to the left, not the middle of the cap cos thats the coil i mean the outside of the caap.that lead goes to the no.1 cly, next lead on the left goes to cly no.3. the bottom lead goes to cly no.4 and the next lead to the right goes to cly no.2 and last of all the middle to the coil

that sounds about right

that sounds about right
yea thought so, now ive just got to find why it wont start, its getting spark and fuel and has no prob turning over(starter motor seems fine)just needs to fire into life. was running like a peach last week cant under stand it . had a few new things installed on the engine so ud think itd go even better. might have to pay someone to look at it.its only done 98000klms
and looked and ran almost new. im lost.

If you've got spark... 2 or more of your plug wires are crossed.
(my AstronII would not run on less than 3 cyls)

u said u lost spark, this happened to me after doing not much to my car, could be ure dizzy got ****ed mine did for no reason, or the conenction on the dizzy is corodoed, play around with that plug, mine needs to be off a tiny bit for me to get spark, also if u have flooded the car when u get spark next and have the firing order right hold ure foot to the floor while starting sometimes it can take a bit

wouldn't u know it , she purrs like a kitten now.and ull never guess what i did. nothing but wait a week open the hood tap the dizzy cap ligtly lightly with my fingers twice, went around to every elec conection in the engine bay and gave them all a squeeze together and turned the key :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: . still dont see what i did cos a week ago i didthe same thing and it wouldn't fire, go figure, well at least the the magna curse is lifted, dont get me wrong i still luv my magna so im not baging it out but i didnt know what else to call it.

This happened to me 4 weeks after I bought my sec gen.
Had the RAA out for over two hours and eventually had the car towed back to the dealer for a warrenty repair.
The dealer could not find the fault either, they had the car for two days and were tightening and checking every single connection in the car.
Eventually she just fired up, and five years later it's still running great.
Neither the RAA nor a Mitsu dealer know what the prob was.

got my cars engine started took for test drive the one hub was loose and the wheel fell off