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Nexus
07-09-2005, 04:43 PM
Hi guys, I am a newbie here, and I own a 97 Magna TE 4 cylinder. Kind of like the car as I expected its Fuel consumption to be very high but it appears to be alright.
I am trying to locate the Fuel filter for the Magna, could some one give me directions on where is it? I have seen how the filter looks like from the boxes but just couldnt see the filter currently in the car.
Your help will be appreciated,
Thanks in advance.
TF_ADVAN
07-09-2005, 05:42 PM
Have a look under the left rear of the car just around the rear wheel.
If you look under there you will see the filter.
Tom
Nexus
07-09-2005, 06:41 PM
Hey thanks! I do it another day, its just has been rainy day after day and the Magna is quite low on avg. At least I now can do some basic maintainance of the car.
Thanks heaps mate!
Nexus
08-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Went under my car today, man quite a tight squeeze, must be I am getting fat lol.
I couldnt find it behind the rear left wheel but saw something that does looks like it slightly in front of the rear left wheel (fuel tank side).
It worries me a bit though as I thought the fuel filter was supposed to be a bit longer than it should so not sure if that the correct componant. Basically is an inlet and outlet and my guess that this is the fuel filter. (Unless this owner before me brought it to a shop to install some compatible one as I recalled seeing the filter a bit longer).
Am I seeing the right thing, the fuel filter I mean?
Cheers!
Magnette
08-09-2005, 04:05 PM
Buy some wheel ramps or jack & axle stands.
(I'm so fat, the car's on axle stands and my t-shirt STILL wipes the sump. :shock: )
Nexus
08-09-2005, 04:13 PM
Yes I intend to get a wheel ramp, I mean its pretty reasonable price to get one anyway.
Question: does the fuel filter indicate which direction etc? ANd will fuel start spilling all over etc? any advise would be great cheers!
RuSSiaN
08-09-2005, 04:35 PM
I'm also interested in this.
I jacked up one side (back left) and had a look, but its hard to pin point where the actual filter is.
Nexus
08-09-2005, 04:46 PM
oh ok, Ic that I am not the only guy having problems locating it. I am not sure whether the filter was exactly as I said, " In front of the LEFT REAR wheel" I think it is as it seems to link to the fuel tank. only concerned was I expected it to be longer as I saw from reco brand or something. And only want some advise in changing them as in any precautions to take note like fuel spilling everywhere etc......
Is there a way to display pictures on the thread? I do wish to show what I am talking about.
cheers!
Nexus
08-09-2005, 10:36 PM
Oh ok Silly me I can see that pictures can be inserted.
I will work on this project tomorrow by taking pics under my car and you guys can confirm the findings or not if thats the fuel filter. Too bad I wasnt trained as an Auto mech but I was an Aircraft mech so considered newbie to even basic maintenance here in the forum. I am trying to get right stuff for the Magna. Also only just joined this forum as I did not know about it till I do a search on the web.
They should have a website to allow us to print some ads or flyers so that I can ask some more Magna guys to join, I am sure a lot didnt know about this place where people can help and share their knowledge about their Magnas.
Ok cool I will post the pics tomorrow.
Cheers!
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 02:03 PM
One thing you have to do before removing the fuel filter is take out the bottom cushion of the back seats.
you will see a small rectangular plate in the middle, now if i remeber this correctly open that up pull the plug out that provides power.
Then start the engine and let it die, to get any excess fuel out. then attack the fuel filter also make sure not to bend or break any of the fuel lines.
also there will be a bit of fuel still in the lines but not much so just have a small bucket when u take out the hoses from the fuel filter.
and yeah the fuel filter is in the the general area, by the left rear wheel, sitting next to the fuel tank.
Tom
Nexus
09-09-2005, 04:43 PM
Hey you are indicating that we change it with an empty Fuel tank? It cant be done by just doing a quicky remove and replace?
Anyways here is a pic of which I think is the fuel filter, please guys help to confirm this. Felt like a CSI doing some check on the car.
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 05:51 PM
No, i didnt say do the replacement with an empty fuel tank i said disconnect the fuel pump under the rear seats and let the engine use up the fuel thats in the fuel lines leading to the engine. this will get rid of excess fuel thats in the fuel line, allowing a quick swap, then connect the fuel pump back up and start the engine to make sure everything is fine.
and yes thats the fuel filter in the picture.
Tom
Nexus
09-09-2005, 06:04 PM
Ur thanks for the advices so far.....ok, how do you remove the rear seats? Sorry, just had to ask, as this is very new to me. I thought it was just going to be a fast swap of filters.
Again your help is very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Cheers!
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 06:23 PM
The rear cushion that covers the fuel pump is removed by 2 clips that you pull out towards the front of the car and then lift the cushion up.
The clips are located in front of the cushion one on each side, just pull them and pull the cushion up and it should come out pretty easily.
no probs with the help, i know how to change the fuel filter casue i changed mine pretty recently and i have the Workshop Manual for the magna so i have all relevant info on hand.
Tom
Nexus
09-09-2005, 06:58 PM
Thanks man!
You are really helpful. I may just take some photos tomorrow to show people here what you are talking about. If all goes well I will do the change on my next Engine oil service. This was my only major concerned as I didnt know where was the location, what was to be done etc. Excellent info man.
Cheers!
Nexus
09-09-2005, 07:17 PM
lol couldnt help myself but to straight away to take a look. According to your directions everything looks as what you described. I will open the panel tomorrow to look. Is that only one obvious plug to pull? lol Hey thanks man I will ensure that I post the pics here to let guys here a rough idea how to do the fuel filter change.
Cheers!
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Yep there is only one obvious plug, there are i think 2 other pipes there as well both fuel lines.
But the power one is pretty obvious so u cant miss it. Just pull it out and start the engine it will prob die after a few secs then try again.
but dont hold the starter for too long if it dosent start after 2 secs stop that means the excess fuel has been used and the fuel lines are no longer pressureised.
Then rip out the old filter and replace.
Tom
Dam...........this seems like a hectic job, good thread Nexus!
Uncanny timing, as I bought my fuel filter today.
Although that fuel filter in your pic looks way small compared with the one I just bought???
Or maybe its just the funny angle from the pic....
Hmmmmmmz
Let me know how it goes, and then I will contemplate on whether or not my lazyness will alow me to change it tommorow...... lol
Nexus
09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
No, I kind of agree that is a bit short, and could be that the place the previous owner went to for servicing, put a compatible one. Anyway I am only just going to show the pics of what was described. Dont think I am doing the fuel filter change at the moment. probably on my next oil change. Anyway the directions here have gave great info on how to do a fuel filter change. I am planning to do auto transmission oil change too as the time comes.
I feel that maybe there should be a small guide in the Tech Torque where guys and gals can view some of this basic maintenance techniques. 2 thumbs up for everyones efforts.
Cheers!
I post the pics tomorrow.
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 09:26 PM
lol dont get me started on AUTO oil change and filter :cringes:
its not too hard but can get messy
Tom
Nexus
09-09-2005, 09:30 PM
lol , I am sure is a bit basic just like engine oil change. Hey but anyways when I start on a new thread on Auto Trans oil change you could just point out somethings for me if I do wrong. lol Thanks for all the notes mate!
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 09:36 PM
I wish it were that easy to do the oil trans oil + filter.
Cause there is still atf oil in the torque converter and the pipes that run behind the radiator for the atf and thats where you drain old oil.
I wont get into exact details but its not fun, esp for ppl who have the auto oil filter inside the gearbox itself.
Tom
Nexus
09-09-2005, 09:43 PM
wow no joke, I can see my filter from the top when open the bonnet though. Not sure about all the aft things u said but now I think I understand why Mitsubitshi charges $180.00 for that servcing. lol Maybe I should consider letting them do it after all. lol Its afterall once every 100000 kms so maybe it is advisable to spend that kind of money.
TF_ADVAN
09-09-2005, 09:48 PM
yeah some magna models have the auto oil filter, there where you described it but i think from abot TJ model onwards the cars had the auto oil filter in the gearbox.
My mums TJ2 has the auto oil filter in the gearbox thats why im gonna get someone to do that one for me.
atf - automatic transmission fluid
Tom
ahhhhhhh yeh I have to change my AT fluid as well!
Like Nexus, my filter is in the engine bay area, I thought it was the oil filter at first until I saw a big fat "A/T" on it......
Nexus
09-09-2005, 10:59 PM
whoa hey hold up, this changing business dont get to hurry into doing it. I asked about the fuel filter because I know I would change it later. the auto trans oil is changed like every 105000 kms written in the manual. Its not really a must thingy as in frequent change.
Anyways the ATF filter is $29.10 from mitsubitshi dealers and the ATF oil is about $27.50 for 5L, you would need I think 7.8Ls (thats for mine.) 8.5L for 6 cyl.
Anyway can talk about this in another thread, I will stick to the Fuel filter here. and post the directions pics tomorrow.
cheers!
Nexus
10-09-2005, 01:58 PM
Well I cant really got web space to insert the pics so you guys would just have to follow each post. Again thanks for everyone's efforts in the discussion.
Fuel Filter Location
The Fuel Filter of the Magna TE is located at the Rear Left Tyre, just in front of it and under the car.
Nexus
10-09-2005, 02:02 PM
You may jack or put your car on a ramp for easier access. I choose ramp for more safety but as usual there are good jacks out there.
The next thing you do is to remove your rear seat cushions as shown in the pics.
There is a handle clip, pull towards you and it will release them easily!
Nexus
10-09-2005, 02:15 PM
After the rear seats are removed. You will notice a square panel in the middle.
Use a proper philips screw driver to remove the screws. If panel is stuck, use a flat head to carefully ply it open, it should come of and you will see the plug for the fuel pump.
Plug is only one obvious plug, unplug it gently.
Start your engine till it dies off.
Ensure your car is not on and make sure is safe to go under the car before you proceed.
This means making sure you have applied handbarkes and even wheel chokes if needed to ensure your car doesnt go off the ramp. If possible ask some one to stay around to ensure your safety!
Use a bucket, tray or anything similiar to allow excess fuel to drop in while you do a quick change of filters. You may remove any clamps to the filter first.
Cheers guys, hope this helps any beginners including myself in a Fuel filter change.
BlackD
14-09-2005, 05:05 AM
After the rear seats are removed. You will notice a square panel in the middle.
Use a proper philips screw driver to remove the screws. If panel is stuck, use a flat head to carefully ply it open, it should come of and you will see the plug for the fuel pump.
Plug is only one obvious plug, unplug it gently.
Start your engine till it dies off.
Ensure your car is not on and make sure is safe to go under the car before you proceed.
This means making sure you have applied handbarkes and even wheel chokes if needed to ensure your car doesnt go off the ramp. If possible ask some one to stay around to ensure your safety!
Use a bucket, tray or anything similiar to allow excess fuel to drop in while you do a quick change of filters. You may remove any clamps to the filter first.
Cheers guys, hope this helps any beginners including myself in a Fuel filter change.
i dont know if you guys to this here but is it possible to make a DIY catogory and let people type up DIY things ... like this one?
HyperTF
14-09-2005, 06:05 AM
i dont know if you guys to this here but is it possible to make a DIY catogory and let people type up DIY things ... like this one?
Not quite but we do have a FAQ for third gens that is trying to help out there http://www.wermspowke.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (thanks to cthulhu)
Otherwise I have known of people to do a complete write up in 1 post in a thread that we have made a sticky for example. It was intended that the Main Site was going to have articles www.aussiemagna.com but is still sadly lacking... I will have a chat with our Webmaster later to see what can be done.
Nexus
14-09-2005, 06:11 PM
I kind of agree on that a bit maybe each Generation Magna should have a DIY column.
Many of us are very interested to know some basics and maybe advance maintainance.
Cheers!
Magnette
15-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Can someone confirm what Tools they used to undo the pipe union nuts?
Mine's tight-as, Can't get anything to grip the back-to-back nuts good.
I fear anymore muscle and they'll start rounding off the tips.
Ensure your car is not on and make sure is safe to go under the car before you proceed.
This means making sure you have applied handbarkes and even wheel chokes if needed to ensure your car doesnt go off the ramp. If possible ask some one to stay around to ensure your safety!
Just a thought about safety...
Only jack up on a solid flat concrete surface.
If your rear wheels are off the ground, the handbrake is worth squat...
(some say its still worth squat even when its 4 wheels on the ground lol )
so make sure your tranny is in Park or 1st gear BEFORE CRAWLING UNDER.
If manual... don't start your car to drain fuel system whilst its in 1st gear.
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