this one is more to people with koni adjustables/ hotbits sport spec (damper adjustable suspension)

few q's for you....

1. How did you tune them up? (by yourself, or somewhere like pedders)

2. If the latter, how much, who did it, and how long did it take?

3. If you tuned them yourself, any tips? mines VERY bouncey in the front end, and doesnt steer to the right very well at all (full car slide)


cheers in advance guys...

I got pedders to put mine in and got the wheel allignment done too. Mine were very bouncy too but i have been fiddling with the damper adjustment to try and make the ride less harsh - which is working. Have the fronts on 30 (30 clicks from the hardest setting) and the rears on 20. Might go to about 35 at the front and possibly 25-28 at the rear if that makes any sense. It's not too bad now.

Im not sure what pedders had the coilovers set on. They pretty much just installed everything as well as camber bolts and rear sway bar. Took them one day - dropped off in the morning before work and picked it up after.

chris.... have you had a wheel alignment yet? make sure you do that first.

basically i started off with both front and back in the middle setting..... and worked my way up from there. drive a bit, twist a knob, drive a bit, twist a knob, etc, etc..... takes time.

from guesstimation, my rears are at 28 and fronts at 32

from guesstimation, my rears are at 28 and fronts at 32

ok ok, i know by starting this thread im going to look like a dumbass, but meh, you get that lol

1. wheel allighnment was done the next day (11mm out of allignment lol)

2. when you say 28/32 etc etc, is this written anywhere?

3. can i assume my shocks were set at 0 to begin with

4. is there any way to tell apart from a suspension analysis @ pedders or the like?

5. also, 28/32 whats? full turns? or clicks?

6. WHY IS IT SO GODDAMN HARD lol

ta peeps

Mine were just clicks. Its not written anywhere. Just turned them all the way to zero and started counting the clicks until i got to 30, for example.

dont forget to have the spring preload set aswell. find a shop that can corner weight your car its not cheap but makes a huge difference.

Zero being as far as soft can turn?

a place like fulcrum might tune the suspension for you

full soft is zero right?

Mine were just clicks. Its not written anywhere. Just turned them all the way to zero and started counting the clicks until i got to 30, for example.

zigackly!!

just turn them all the way down.
after i turned mine down, i turned them all the way back up and counted the clicks. then i turned them back down and counted. simple

the time consuming part is fine tuning for your preference.....

full soft is zero right?

full soft is all the way down as far as it can go. check the knob..... i think its counter clockwise...... i think

zigackly!!

just turn them all the way down.
after i turned mine down, i turned them all the way back up and counted the clicks. then i turned them back down and counted. simple

the time consuming part is fine tuning for your preference.....
what have you set yours for?

A: family comfort
B: Disc Destroying Rock Hardness
C: Axle Snapping Goodness

If it's 'bouncy' do you mean on the rebound or bump stroke? I have a feeling these Hotbits dampers are only rebound adjustable (are there 2 variables you can adjust on each strut, or only 1?), in which case you make do the best you can to match the rebound damping to whatever springs you have used.

If it's a case of both rebound and bump adjustability allowed, it's best to go to a specialist workshop (i.e. not Pedders) to have the springs matched as it's very difficult to do if you are inexperienced.

also coilovers were really never meant to be comfortable

nah im not meaning uncomfortable, i mean the tyre is bouncing on the road, and the car is sliding...

im not after comfort, if i was, i would have degraded to exec suspension, or verada lol

nah im not meaning uncomfortable, i mean the tyre is bouncing on the road, and the car is sliding...

im not after comfort, if i was, i would have degraded to exec suspension, or verada lol
Sounds like you got them on a very stiff setting if your wheel is bouncing.. Or to low.

yeah definately set way to stiff if thats happening

Sounds like you got them on a very stiff setting if your wheel is bouncing.. Or to low.
click me profile & tell me if that could be too low (honest q, not a stab)

ill try what teh diff suggested tonight, will post again tomoz

Well I've set my rebound rate to about 25% (Koni's don't click) in the front. Thats 25% of the total turns you can have. Having it 0% is actually harsher then 25%. I havn't gone all out yet as I need new tyres.

Coilovers are difficult to setup because it was designed for professional use. Anyway not wanting to start a debate here, so all is good, hope you can get your coilovers setup the way you like :D

Oh and quite often when i'm on rugged roads the wheels I feel are not tracking too well. In my case its a combination of heavy duty swaybars and bloody hard Whiteline springs.

yeah ok, thanks dude, ill have a play tonight with todays suggestions, hopefully something will work

click me profile & tell me if that could be too low (honest q, not a stab)

ill try what teh diff suggested tonight, will post again tomozDont take this the wrong way mate, but low does not = good handling. You car looks lower than superlows at the front and that means crap handling. (my VRX had superlows and the handling wasnt what youd call 'fantastic')

From my point of view its too low. You want a firm suspension, with a small amount of travel (to keep your front tires sticking to the ground)

My car had a similar problem, with the superlows on the rear end, it was sitting on the factory bumpstops and when i would turn a corner the LSD diff acted as if it was locked (one wheel would lose a bit of traction causing it to make a squeel). Once i cut the bumpstops to the proper height (lowered bumpstops werent in stock at the time) it stopped the LSD acting like it was locked and allowed the car the proper amount of travel in the suspension for the LSD to do its thing.

I would say the above is the problem you have with your cars wheels 'bouncing' off the road.

i think he has got it at a perfect height

it is not too low...the coilover should be able to handle it at that height...sure its gonna be rougher

hey seafood....i hope you have set the front coils to be even and not different settings for left and right....that will cause your car to veer and skid over bumps

i think he has got it at a perfect height

it is not too low...the coilover should be able to handle it at that height...sure its gonna be rougher

hey seafood....i hope you have set the front coils to be even and not different settings for left and right....that will cause your car to veer and skid over bumps
He's also got front and rear swaybars + a strut brace. His car should be fairly rigid so you need to allow for that also.

well, im honestly not sure if i have or not, as i didnt think to check (theres nothing written to say your at "X" so i only assumed both were at neutral when i started adjusting, and i turned both equal amounts...

ill reset them tonight, to the specs that the difference suggested, and hopefully that will be a win for me, fingers crossed :D

cheers Bain, ill look into it further, i didnt set it that low, teh installers did :D

looks pweety though, but as you can tell from my stock rims, i want performance over looks :D

one thing to remember the "height adjuster" is also the preload adjuster so setting them to a height you want isnt always going to be the best setting for the car. Give somewhere like nizpro a call and have a chat with Simon or Guy see what advice they give you, they setup race cars for a living so there advice should be pretty helpfull. and accurate.

stiffer aint necissarily better ... well on street anyways ...know of ppl who have gone off the side of embankments through the hills with stiff suspension as they came to a corner hit a bump and went straight on didnt turn at all ....

also a mate who has coilovers never goes hard in the hills unless he is 100% sure there r no un even bumps as he would do the same thing if he hit a bump on a corner ...

so my advice be careful

well, im honestly not sure if i have or not, as i didnt think to check (theres nothing written to say your at "X" so i only assumed both were at neutral when i started adjusting, and i turned both equal amounts...


do as i told you..... reset all the way up or down..... and count the clicks from there.

btw, mine is set at a compromise between comfort and drivability..... if you carry ppl in the car alot, id suggest turning my settings down by about 3-5 clicks (ie, softer).

btw.... the rear goes down more than that without taking out the helper springs.

let us know how you go!

Since youre all here. Are the coilovers worth it? Can you get a decent ride after adjustment? Do you find height adjustability a useful feature? I previously had a TE with superlows and new shocks with sway bars, anti-lift and actually almost found the ride better than the current stock verada setup. It had far better control. How does this compare to your experiences of coilovers?

Thanks

Since youre all here. Are the coilovers worth it? Can you get a decent ride after adjustment? Do you find height adjustability a useful feature? I previously had a TE with superlows and new shocks with sway bars, anti-lift and actually almost found the ride better than the current stock verada setup. It had far better control. How does this compare to your experiences of coilovers?

Thanks

a big resounding YES!!!!

to quote choonga (again): "There's absolutely NO body roll"

there are a couple of bendy bits on my way to/from work everyday (mostly freeway on ramps) that i used to comfortably take at about 85-90...... since coilovers...... same bends are now about 105 with room for more

can i ask a question

these helper springs are to create a better spring feel while adjusted lower?

to get to the height of what gremlin had in his slammed pic do you need to take the helper springs out?

can i ask a question

these helper springs are to create a better spring feel while adjusted lower?

to get to the height of what gremlin had in his slammed pic do you need to take the helper springs out?

im not sure if you need to take it out but i didnt have the helper springs in mine as they were street not sports spec.. that could explain why i was able to go lower than what some of you guys are finding??

ah ok

im getting street spec too (these are the non damper adjustment ones right?)

i just want to be able to get the height i use dto have with my compressed ones

can i ask a question

these helper springs are to create a better spring feel while adjusted lower?

to get to the height of what gremlin had in his slammed pic do you need to take the helper springs out?

ermmm..... yes you will need to take the helper springs out. the helper springs are there to ensure that the primary spring remains 'trapped' ie, stays in the strut assembly, when it is at full extension. basically, its there to keep the spring in place when you go over BIIG bumps or when your car is jacked up.

ah ok

im getting street spec too (these are the non damper adjustment ones right?)

i just want to be able to get the height i use dto have with my compressed ones

i would very highly recommend spending the extra $$ and getting the sport spec...... the ability the control your ride is very important. unless your car is purely for show, and not a daily driver...... other wise, the bouncyness or the stiffness may make you angry after a while - i know it'd make me upset if i couldnt adjust it! besides, you can always take out/put back the helper springs yourself.

well i found out that they are ordering the sport spec for me...you see i am not paying for this i am trading my services for them

ok so taking the helpers will slam it i get ya

well i found out that they are ordering the sport spec for me...you see i am not paying for this i am trading my services for them

ok so taking the helpers will slam it i get ya

yes, taking them out will slam it........ but be careful of going over big bumps/potholes/little children/etc...... but im sure anthony will tell you all of this!

anymore questions?

cant wait to see dave... HAWT

nah no questions mate

trust me i have had all different kinds of springs in my car and have had ride quality at its harshest

these things are gonna be a dream for me hahaha