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Daz
27-09-2005, 07:03 PM
here is some information on the future of the 380 form Go-auto news.

"A Peugeot-developed turbo-diesel version and a 2.4-litre MIVEC four-cylinder variant are both on the horizon for the 380."

So a 240 is on the cards.
Hopefully MIVEC 3.8 lt before then

here is a link to Go-auto news -
http://www.mellor.net/enewslatest

Lachlan56
27-09-2005, 07:08 PM
lol a 2.4l 380?

Will Mitstu actually call it the "240" or, "380 Light" or "380 Minus a bit"
??

Good to see a smaller version is comming, should help their sales alot for those after a smaller engined car

TFBoy
27-09-2005, 07:12 PM
lol i think they will call it 240, or 240 D

Thunda
27-09-2005, 07:13 PM
so why not just call it what it is


LANCER becuase thats whats in the lateset lancer to hit the market with the mivec 2.4 :bowrofl:

Lachlan56
27-09-2005, 07:16 PM
here is some information on the future of the 380 form Go-auto news.

"A Peugeot-developed turbo-diesel version and a 2.4-litre MIVEC four-cylinder variant are both on the horizon for the 380."

So a 240 is on the cards.
Hopefully MIVEC 3.8 lt before then

here is a link to Go-auto news -
http://www.mellor.net/enewslatest

Reading betwen the lines it seems that there will be 3 types? A 3.8L, a 2.4L and an unknown L Turbo Diesel? 3.5L Turbo Diesel sounds about bang on delicious

_stonesour_
27-09-2005, 07:44 PM
i dont understand why they would do that when their lancers will be 2.4L aswel

Vormund
27-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Some people will want the extra room, but don't feel the need for power. Good move with diesel too, people are waking up to the fact that they are quite fuel efficient.

_stonesour_
27-09-2005, 07:50 PM
i think the reason ur seeing more diesel cars on the market is our diesel is gettuing much cleaner than it used to be

Jake
27-09-2005, 07:51 PM
if its a peugot derived diesel, my guess is it will be based on the 407 2.7 V6 turbo diesel, which can also be found in the new landrover discovery, and in the jaguar s-type in twin turbo form, or it could just be a version of the 2.0lt turbo diesel 4 cyl

[TUFFTR]
27-09-2005, 07:56 PM
lollllllllllllllllllllllllllll @ "380 Minus a bit"


"hey mate id like to buy a 380 minus a bit please"

lol love to get the badge like that on my car :P :P :P

MitsiMonsta
27-09-2005, 08:13 PM
My Aunt drove her 407 TD from south of Sale to us here in Mudgee, about 900-1000kms, filled up in Sale, still had half a tank when they got here.

fcuking awesome.

PeteW
27-09-2005, 08:17 PM
lol i think they will call it 240, or 240 D

i had a 240k turboed once lol

Fuzzlet
27-09-2005, 08:19 PM
Only trouble with naming it a 240 bcoz of different engine, is it will be confused with the Volvo 240 (god bless)

Reigns
27-09-2005, 09:58 PM
When 380 is 3.8 MIVEC AWD Manual i'm pulling out a loan and buying one :P

Tim-E
27-09-2005, 10:04 PM
does anyone else think that 115kW is a pretty p!ss poor effort from a 2.4L MIVEC in the new lancer!? :confused:

Phonic
28-09-2005, 06:37 AM
does anyone else think that 115kW is a pretty p!ss poor effort from a 2.4L MIVEC in the new lancer!? :confused:

Same engine is about 121kW in Outlander and Grandis.

cartman02au
28-09-2005, 07:15 AM
Call it the 378 (380 - 2 cylinders).

I think the move for a 4 cylinder is a smart one, I just think that the naming is a bit stupid. It kinda locks them into the 3.8L.

As for "the lancer has a 2.4L so why bother". I would buy a large 4 cyl over a Lancer simply because of the room. When you are a tall bastard you need all the room you can get :bowrofl:

RJL25
28-09-2005, 07:18 AM
yeah i said a while back that they should consider a "Mitsubishi 240" model to directly combat the toyota camry, mazda 6 and accord euro, but it needs to have about 140kw i reckon to make sure it can compete with the most powerful of the 4cyl rivals

RJL25
28-09-2005, 07:20 AM
As for "the lancer has a 2.4L so why bother". I would buy a large 4 cyl over a Lancer simply because of the room. When you are a tall bastard you need all the room you can get :bowrofl:

and also even tho its a better car now with the mivec engine, the lancer is still a very low rent car.. cant hold a candle against the magna, let alone the 380, for refinement, interior comfort and quality, handling, equipment levels, and just about every other aspect that is important

cartman02au
28-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Exactly, the original Magna sold by the truck load because it was a good size with an seemingly economical engine.

When Mitsubishi did away with the 4 cylinder they effectively handed the segment they invented to Toyota.

heydude
28-09-2005, 09:33 AM
It would be a brilliant move, too many sales are going the other way to large 4 cyl cars, people want the space and economy and smaller rego and insurance that 4cyl cars offer, not everyone is after a rocket ship guys.

Tim-E
28-09-2005, 09:38 AM
Same engine is about 121kW in Outlander and Grandis.

the Nissan Bluebird got just a 2.4L DOHC 4 cylinder with 112kW way back in 1993 :nuts:

If someone asked me to guess what a 2.4L MIVEC would make before figures were released, i would guess more around the 140kW mark....

RJL25
28-09-2005, 09:40 AM
the 2.4 in the grandis and outlander where tuned more for torque, as a consequence there is a lower peak power output

Tim-E
28-09-2005, 09:47 AM
the 2.4 in the grandis and outlander where tuned more for torque, as a consequence there is a lower peak power output

so whats the Lancer version tuned for then? more torque? lol

RJL25
28-09-2005, 10:01 AM
so whats the Lancer version tuned for then? more torque? lol

well the engine was originally designed for grandis and outlander and thats why it had the torque, i guess they just didnt redesign it for the lancer, and who would considering its being replaced in 18 months time anyway

mattstar
28-09-2005, 11:41 AM
There are some shocking examples how car manufacturers say they are innovating wen in fact power does not increase too much. For example the 1.6 rolla from the early 90's was 100kw(sx gti) and the current 1.8 is 100kw. Whoooopeeeeee over ten years of innovating and in the rolla kw per litres has decreased....

bondy
28-09-2005, 11:57 AM
There are some shocking examples how car manufacturers say they are innovating wen in fact power does not increase too much. For example the 1.6 rolla from the early 90's was 100kw(sx gti) and the current 1.8 is 100kw. Whoooopeeeeee over ten years of innovating and in the rolla kw per litres has decreased....


You guys dont seem to conisder that fact that emissions and sound output restrictions have evolved over the years.

RJL25
28-09-2005, 11:58 AM
You guys dont seem to conisder that fact that emissions and sound output restrictions have evolved over the years.

good point

mattstar
28-09-2005, 12:06 PM
and so does the power delivery characteristics of a motor and fuel consumption, but these things do not help sell a car as much as the power figure

although fuel consumption is becoming so much more important

greenmatt
28-09-2005, 12:06 PM
There are some shocking examples how car manufacturers say they are innovating wen in fact power does not increase too much. For example the 1.6 rolla from the early 90's was 100kw(sx gti) and the current 1.8 is 100kw. Whoooopeeeeee over ten years of innovating and in the rolla kw per litres has decreased....

If youre going to compare like with like the sporty modern Corolla has 140kW so the years of innovating have done something after all.

mattstar
28-09-2005, 12:16 PM
ha ha a claimed 140kw, toyota has had some serious trouble with their power claims of the sportivo

bondy
28-09-2005, 01:17 PM
Another thing mattstar, the power delivery of the newer engines is far better, even if the power output is the same/less as their older brethen.

I know id rather have a usable 115kW then a stupidly peaky 115kW dohc screamer from yesteryear.

Spackbace
28-09-2005, 02:28 PM
yeah, and ur comparing the sti corolla, not the base models...corollas dont even come out with one that sporty...sure theres the sportivo, but thats not something u can just take down the rally track! using the corolla was a bad example, as the market that thing is aimed at is primarily 50+ and these ppl dont want something with grunt, they want something with economy, which every corolla delivers.

now compare camry's...i'd b pretty damn sure that theyve slowly gone up in power over the last 15years

bendertiger
28-09-2005, 09:41 PM
What about.....

1=colt
2=lancer
3=380
4=pajero

or something like that...colt is 1.8l? so it'd be like a mitsubishi 180
lancer is 2.4. so 224
380 with 4cyl will be 324
pajero is 3.5? so that'd be 435.

Just some crazy idea I just came up with :P This idea wouldn't hold and I know it, I just thought it'd be funky to think about.