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gavski007
28-09-2005, 10:19 PM
does anyone know anything about a positive charging system for a car???
i found one for sale on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-FTO-300GT-EVO-RALLIART-Charging-Stabilizer_W0QQitemZ4578197871QQcategoryZ32624QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

this guy reckons it would be good for power & torque etc. but it seems a bit dodgy to me
anyone got one or know what this this is?

Atlas
28-09-2005, 10:36 PM
Just a simple capacitor isn't it? Just looks like a box with wires but??

teK--
28-09-2005, 10:39 PM
It looks like a flux capacitor to me.

[TUFFTR]
28-09-2005, 11:02 PM
what do these Flux capacitors do? i mean i know what a capasitor does but what does this "flux" one do

Black Beard
29-09-2005, 06:11 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the flux capacitor was what broke on the delorian(sp) stranding Michael J Fox in the past.......












(back to the future..... :nuts: )

Atlas
29-09-2005, 06:17 AM
It looks like a flux capacitor to me.

Electronics
Besides being a "fictitious core component" of a time machine, flux capacitors are linear integrated circuit capacitors having greater capacitance per unit area by using lateral flux. One example of these is a lateral flux capacitor having fractal-shaped perimeters, U.S. patent number 6084285.

Linear integrated circuit capacitors having greater capacitance per unit area by using lateral flux. One embodiment comprises a two metal layer capacitor wherein each metal layer is comprised of two capacitor conductive components. The capacitor conductive components are cross-coupled so that the total capacitance is the sum of the vertical flux between the metal layers, and the lateral flux along the edges between the two capacitor conductive components in each of the metal layers. The lateral flux between the capacitor conductive components in a single metal layer increases the capacitance per unit area and decreases the bottom-plate parasitic capacitance. Increasing the length of the common edge formed by capacitor conductive components in a metal layer increases the capacitance per unit area. In one lateral flux capacitor, each metal layer is comprised of a plurality of rows, alternate rows are coupled together such that lateral flux is generated between each of the rows. The rows are also cross-coupled with rows in adjacent metal layers to provide vertical flux. Fractal shapes can be used to maximize the length of the perimeter of adjacent capacitor conductive components in a single metal layer. The Koch Islands and Minkowski Sausage families of fractals are particularly well suited for generating capacitor conductive component perimeter shapes. These fractals are generated by selecting an initiator shape and repeatedly applying a generator. The fractal shapes are generated by a computer program based upon user input parameters.

Taken from http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6084285.WKU.&OS=PN/6084285&RS=PN/6084285

Odds are that is just a normal capacitor without a digital reading, but could very well be a flux item to i guess.

Hope this helps

Atlas
29-09-2005, 06:18 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the flux capacitor was what broke on the delorian(sp) stranding Michael J Fox in the past.......












(back to the future..... :nuts: )

Very right you are.....

The flux capacitor is the fictitious core component of Dr. Brown's time traveling De Lorean in the popular 1985 movie Back to the Future and its two sequels. We learn from Doc Brown that the flux capacitor "is what makes time travel possible."

It is not made clear in the movie exactly how the flux capacitor works. It consists of a box with three small, flashing incandescent lamps arranged as a "Y", located above and behind the passenger's seat of the De Lorean time machine. At the end of the third film in the series, when Doc Brown has converted a steam train into a time machine, the flux capacitor is located on the front of the train, in place of the lamp. The stainless steel body of the De Lorean also has a beneficial effect on the "flux dispersal" as the capacitor activates.

It requires 1.21 gigawatts (GW) of electricity originally supplied by some kind of combination of a plutonium powered nuclear reactor and the De Lorean accelerating to 88 MPH (142 km/h), by use of its gasoline powered internal combustion engine. During its first two trips (one minute forward in time, and back in time to 1955) the combination was used without incident. However, during its next trip (back to 1985), plutonium was not available and a lightning rod was connected directly to the flux capacitor and was used while the vehicle sustained 88 MPH. Plutonium was used once again for a trip forward in time at least 30 years, and at some point thereafter the plutonium reactor was replaced by a "Mr. Fusion" home energy generator from the future that was somehow fuelled by garbage. Due to lack of gasoline and a broken fuel line, the De Lorean's final trip from 1885 to 1985 was partially powered by a steam locomotive pushing the vehicle up to 88 MPH.

MicJaiy
29-09-2005, 06:23 AM
So what? is this capacitor suppose to help charge mitsubishi's or send us back in forth in time... I'm confused :nuts: lol

BOosted' BOoya
29-09-2005, 06:33 AM
i thought the brits use "positive charging" on their cars,

which makes the whole car "live" and instead of running a "ground" cable to a earth on the car, the car is live, so they then run a ground cable to the battery, doing the opposite to what we do, which is run a live power to the battery, and use the car to ground?

magnat
29-09-2005, 06:35 AM
So you touch the door handle and get Zapped ??

BOosted' BOoya
29-09-2005, 06:39 AM
So you touch the door handle and get Zapped ??
no, cos your insulated by the shoes you wear, and no doubt by the plastic door trims lol

cant bloody remember where i read it!!! :think:

tfv630
29-09-2005, 07:00 AM
your kinda right in away booya, english cars many many years ago used a positive earth.
carslike the early triumphs minis. this doesnt make the car live as electricity travel from negative to positive anyway, there are other cars that had just cant think of it atm.

the earthed lead can be either neg or pos, either way its still just an active and earth.

Not advised to be tried in cars that arent setup that way though,

gavski007
01-10-2005, 03:49 PM
Not advised to be tried in cars that arent setup that way though,


so this guy on ebay is probably selling a piece of junk - not worth getting?

tfv630
03-10-2005, 05:55 AM
it looks like an external voltage regulator not really necessary in modern cars as they already have one.

Gemini
03-10-2005, 09:25 AM
1 Gw = one million Kw's :shock:

MagnaLE
03-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Very right you are.....

The flux capacitor is the fictitious core component of Dr. Brown's time traveling De Lorean in the popular 1985 movie Back to the Future and its two sequels. We learn from Doc Brown that the flux capacitor "is what makes time travel possible."

It is not made clear in the movie exactly how the flux capacitor works. It consists of a box with three small, flashing incandescent lamps arranged as a "Y", located above and behind the passenger's seat of the De Lorean time machine. At the end of the third film in the series, when Doc Brown has converted a steam train into a time machine, the flux capacitor is located on the front of the train, in place of the lamp. The stainless steel body of the De Lorean also has a beneficial effect on the "flux dispersal" as the capacitor activates.

It requires 1.21 gigawatts (GW) of electricity originally supplied by some kind of combination of a plutonium powered nuclear reactor and the De Lorean accelerating to 88 MPH (142 km/h), by use of its gasoline powered internal combustion engine. During its first two trips (one minute forward in time, and back in time to 1955) the combination was used without incident. However, during its next trip (back to 1985), plutonium was not available and a lightning rod was connected directly to the flux capacitor and was used while the vehicle sustained 88 MPH. Plutonium was used once again for a trip forward in time at least 30 years, and at some point thereafter the plutonium reactor was replaced by a "Mr. Fusion" home energy generator from the future that was somehow fuelled by garbage. Due to lack of gasoline and a broken fuel line, the De Lorean's final trip from 1885 to 1985 was partially powered by a steam locomotive pushing the vehicle up to 88 MPH.


Yes, but you're not thinking forth dimessionally....

I love the Back to the Future trillogy!!! :D