Hello every1. I just purchased a V6 Verada for something different & I am having some drama already!. When I select overdrive OFF the car drives fine 1st,2nd&3rd gear no prob's BUT if I turn the OD ON it will neutralize as soon as it selects 4th gear. I have top'd the transmission up with 1/2 litre of tranny fluid & this did not help, it has been suggested that maybe the button in the console can cause overdrive to fail but as the OD ON/OFF light in the dash is coming on & off fine I presume theres no prob with the switch?. There is also a intermitant miss in the engine perticularly under load yet it looks to have new lead's, plugs & dizzy cap?. Vibrates around corners if doing more than 30 or 40 (mainly noticed under load). & least but not last LOL where is the damn hold switch for the overdrive? =-) Thanks in advance......Matt

It is unlikely the switch for O/D is the problem. THE O/D clutches have probably worn. If you shop around can get this done for about $250. I have just had this problem with my car. When you switch 0/D off it simply means all forward gears (low. second, third work but o/d is not activated).

Plug leads might be the cause of poor running.

The O/D band wears out also.

Ok thanks, does any one know if the 4cyl auto trans is the same as V6? can I use bits from a 4cyl tranny to repair my V6 tranny?.. OR even better - will a 5 speed out of a 1st generation TP magna fit into my V6 verada or are the gearbox's / bellhousing / flywheel's peddals different?.... The reason I ask is because my m8 has a few 1st generation wreck's & if the 5 speed / pedals ETC are to fit, I can have the bits I need for free !! Oh & the CV's... are they the same cv in 4cyl as V6 ??.. Thanks again 4 all your advice people, I can work on a Holden blind folded but this japanesey is a totaly different story !!

The O/D band wears out also.
can this be replaced easily my car has most of the same problems above

Ok thanks, does any one know if the 4cyl auto trans is the same as V6? can I use bits from a 4cyl tranny to repair my V6 tranny?.. OR even better - will a 5 speed out of a 1st generation TP magna fit into my V6 verada or are the gearbox's / bellhousing / flywheel's peddals different?.... The reason I ask is because my m8 has a few 1st generation wreck's & if the 5 speed / pedals ETC are to fit, I can have the bits I need for free !! Oh & the CV's... are they the same cv in 4cyl as V6 ??.. Thanks again 4 all your advice people, I can work on a Holden blind folded but this japanesey is a totaly different story !!

no no no and no. your 4cyl tranny is different, and so is the Gen1.

not sure about the CV's but i know the drive shafts are slightly different lengths.
and by the way, your magna isnt japanesey it was built in Adelaide.

I would check the Transmission Control Unit before worrying about mechanicals. All you have to do is use an analog multimeter or a LED test lamp and check what the trouble codes the TCU is spitting out.

The problem could be sensors (electronic problem and an easy fix. Can be diagnosed by TCU) or OD clutch/band(which your TCU wont pick).

no no no and no. your 4cyl tranny is different, and so is the Gen1.


Not entirely correct. The same auto transmission was fitted to the 4 cylinder EFI and 6 cylinder (F4A33). The 4 cylinder Carbie model was fitted with a different transmission (F4A23).

can this be replaced easily my car has most of the same problems above


The sign that its come off is when you engaged the O/D button and it just Revs out, it can be replaced, I got quoted $475 to get it fixed, however depending on the age of a vehicle worth paying a bit more and getting a whole recondition.

yeah when i flick it to od on it does it sometime straight away other times like when i start the car with od on it will happen just randomly

It might have been assembled in Australia but im guessing by the amount of JAP parts & Jap writing all over everything & all these faults, that its a jap design - where it's assembled means little if nippon denso's pop design'd it while eating a sushi in his underwear. Any way, theres difference's of opinion as to weather a 4cyl tranny is or is NOT simular enough to bolt up. $475 to fix a handfull of OD frictions is a absolute joke I definately wont be going there + dont trust many mechanical shops around here anyway, thats Y I wanted to just dodgey the ugly thing up with a 2nd hand tranny OR use the bits needed from a 4cyl tranny pffff out of breath now.. any1 wanna buy a damaged verada for $2500 - I want another commodore, 2 weeks of this rubbish is enough !!

... I tend to love the jap cars!! Without doubt more reliable than any aussie made/designed car! It spreads across the board aswell, toyota 4wds have been, and will continue to be the most reliable cars on the road! lol, just thought i'd stick up for the jap car industry.

If they were more reliable (& they clearly arent), Australian taxi companys would use them. Landcruisers are a good off road vehicle but I cant afford to use 22 litres of fuel for every 100k@$1.45 per litre (Tassie). Thought I would get a V6 Verada to skip all the 4cyl magna problems, I like the look of them but unfortunately for me this thing is just as bad if not worse than a 2.6. "Reliability" you say, Commodores from 1989 on if serviced regularly do 500,000+ K's without as much as the heads or tranny being removed!!, this is fact - ask any mechanic =-)... Cant wait to get a new Commie =-) MORE exited than big kev :D

you said you bought it 2 weeks ago, if you know so much about cars you shouldve known then and steer clear, there's always risk with buying 2nd cars, esp one with 10yrs old, whether you buying falcodore or magna or camry, theres always gonna be problems with some of them. Its just that you too stupid to purchase a lemon, so dont complain aobut verada's or jap cars, you should really just look at yourself, examine the car before you buy to save all this trouble..

you said you bought it 2 weeks ago, if you know so much about cars you shouldve known then and steer clear, there's always risk with buying 2nd cars, esp one with 10yrs old, whether you buying falcodore or magna or camry, theres always gonna be problems with some of them. Its just that you too stupid to purchase a lemon, so dont complain aobut verada's or jap cars, you should really just look at yourself, examine the car before you buy to save all this trouble..


Exactly.

Commodores from 1989 on if serviced regularly do 500,000+ K's without as much as the heads or tranny being removed!!, this is fact - ask any mechanic =-)... Cant wait to get a new Commie =-) MORE exited than big kev :D
Commodores from 89 on routinely murder heads too :)
Having said that if I had the finances I would probably consider buying your car when you sell it.

who told you commodores 89 on murder heads?, thats absolute crap, maybe your thinking of pre 88- the poor old VL commodore that "unfortunately"copped a JAP RB30 motor, they were a bad model I must admit, only liked them in a 5.0 personaly. From VN on is Quite the opposite, they never break head's or head gaskets for that matter, all Comm from September 88 onward's have cast iron head's not alloy -unlike most models. The heads are good for the life of 2 bottom ends/1 Million k's. As for "why did I buy it" **GOD KNOWS** that's what every one keep's asking me - WHY THE HELL DID U BUY THAT MATT?????????? even my POP asked me WHY Y Y Y, Y is definately the question. OK here is my justification as to "Y"... because I wanted a change from Holden & V6 magna seem'd the obvious choice as there is so many on the road & I think camry's look very bland, FORD is NOT a option. I asked The dodgey plick that I bought it from many Questions before I bid (EBAY) he told me many lie's about the car other wise I wouldnt have bid on it, BUT, I had won the auction so what could I do?- try fix it, 1650k's is a long way to go for nothing. Ebay is a legal auction once you bid & win you have commited to buy the item. The car has about a month NSW rego left & no pink slip, once that runs out it will b 4 sale in the FOR SALE section. I dislike it, 15 litres of premium fuel /100k HIGHWAY consumption ALL the way from Sydney to Hobart LOL $275 hehehe jesus, I normaly get home from Brisbane on $200 in the cars I usualy drive (650k's min per 65 litre tank - 10L/100K max. ** CANT WAIT TO GET MY NEW COMMIE :D **

TFBOY - who said I know so much about cars any way? - You did..... LOL :D thanks 4 the complement sweety

ok i'd like to add something, my 83 model commodore that i got on that same trip and travelled an extra 80ks used less fuel than that magna piece of **** and also didnt miss a beat the whole way even when the temp guage needle was hard over red it still purred like a kitten and seemed to fix its self!!! couldnt see a magna doing that, i hate magna's one wanker typical magna driver wrote my car off but hey what else could you expect from a magna driver couldnt drive a sharp stick up a dogs arse, LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPLYS!!!


P.S here is a pic of what the cocksuckingpoofter magna driver done to my pride and joy
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/robohsv/Commodore/000_0179.jpg

LOL ROBO, go easy M8 ... I know deep down you want to buy my Magna *********just 5 less robo**********

no m8 im glad i had my commodore on the trip so i didnt have to ride in ur MAGNA suhi box

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gotta love bogan's who don't know what to look for in a 2nd hand car.

gotta love bogan's who don't know what to look for in a 2nd hand car.

how can you tell someones a bogan if you havent seen them?

Taxi for a Juan Kerr!

bogan... u dumb ass, I have owned second hand cars all my life, and hundreds of them. I cant help it if I ask a ebayer in good fath if the transmission is ok & he lie's to me, not much I can do about that once im on my 1500k journey home is there yuppy.

I wonder how long it will be before this thread gets locked.

I wonder how long it will be before this thread gets locked.

dunno than we will have to start others

I disagree there is no O/D band. There is a Kickdown BAND. F4A33 gearbox was used in v6 AND EFI 4 cyl TR-TS-KR-KS. it is rumoured TS-KS uses some beefed up internals compared to TR-KR.
The driveshafts should be same.
Sometimes F4A33-1 tranny is mentioned, but I think it si same as F4A33.

could see why youl wouldn't like magnas if you got one and it had a lot wrong with it, and a holden may be un breakable, but my god the old ones drove like crap, if they didn't last so long the only good use for them would be a demlition derby. i had an old verada and it never missed a beat, it was serviced when it was ment to be and it shows, even when i sold it it drove better than much new cars

who told you commodores 89 on murder heads?, thats absolute crap, maybe your thinking of pre 88- the poor old VL commodore that "unfortunately"copped a JAP RB30 motor,
Whoever told you the 3.8L doesnt kill heads is wrong too. I can show you many many heads that are dead. Just because they are cast iron means squat.

The VL was bad for heads and gaskets, but all Nissan engines are - look at the L series as well :)

How much would you sell the Verada for?

How much would you sell the Verada for?

if it was mine i'd give it away,, well actually i wouldnt of bought it in the 1st place

*** magnas blow em off the road

go back to ur POS commodore u noob

why are you even on these forums if you are just badmouthing the car? have you ever been in a magna? have you ever been in a modified magna?.

83 model commie? whats holding that together? the rust?

friggen moron typical lamewad commodore driver



get off these forums lameass

why are you even on these forums if you are just badmouthing the car? have you ever been in a magna? have you ever been in a modified magna?.
Magnas dont need to be modified to be half decent. Hell my Astron can outdo most V8s round here simply because of her weight and theirs.

go back to ur POS commodore u noob

why are you even on these forums if you are just badmouthing the car? have you ever been in a magna? have you ever been in a modified magna?.

83 model commie? whats holding that together? the rust?

friggen moron typical lamewad commodore driver



get off these forums lameass

he is probably pissed cause a magna hit him as stated in his previous post.

Sounds to me like the magna took off normally while he was "smoking em' up".. magna driver couldn't see due to the smoke show and BAM!! :bowrofl:

Magnas dont need to be modified to be half decent. Hell my Astron can outdo most V8s round here simply because of her weight and theirs.
i realise they dont have to be modified to be half decent, thats why i said have you ever been in one, followed by have you ever ben in a done up one.
well sounds like another typical commodore driver whinging, he does a burnout yet compains when someone hits him. tosspot.

hopefully hes not on these forums much longer :D

Cartman thats BUll**** m8 seriously, im here to try & learn a bit about mitsubishi's maybe I can teach you a thing or 2 about Commodores!!. Head's dont "normaly" have to come off them in there life (500,000+) RARE RARE RARE - very FEW early motors had bad cam journels but that's about as far as it go's, dont need to look at your broken head collection to know this man LOL, I have worked on thousands of these Commodores & owned hundreds, it's my job!!, never had 1 problem with a head yet other than VL (they suck ass). I need Mitsubishi advice not Holden!!......... Thanks DICKIE77, finaly I have a posative answer on the drive shafts & tranny, I was pretty sure myself that there was no overdrive "band" in magna's LOL........ TUFF VR - there is nothing "tuff" about your TR man, it's so UNTUFF that it is making me want to go & kick another dent into my car- it looks like my car LOLOLOL Jesus, I did see a modifycation done to a magna once that I thought was pretty cool, think it was a HOLDEN/CHEV-COME RACING motor in a TJ or simular LOL :D Thats what I call a real Magna!!........... Im not here JUST to "bag" the car's either, Im here coz I needed advice, I obviously HAD (as apposed to have) a small (tiny maybe) soft spot for these cars or I wouldnt have purchased it..... MICJAIY your Magna looks choice, it's been done in my exact taste =-) LOW AS (DAMN that is LOW!!) all color coded with... are they big "F@##-OFF" shiney Vault wheel's I can see?. I have vault's on my good Car!! =-) that's One of the most choice magna's I have ever seen man, I like it!

Tuff - Lmao....... Juan Kerr

MICJAIY your Magna looks choice, it's been done in my exact taste =-) LOW AS (DAMN that is LOW!!) all color coded with... are they big "F@##-OFF" shiney Vault wheel's I can see?. I have vault's on my good Car!! =-) that's One of the most choice magna's I have ever seen man, I like it!

click my profile dude and the real photo is there, my avatar is photochop! its not normally that low but veradas come colour coded stock. ;)

aaawww leave broken_verada and robohsv alone, they are lovers, they have to be as they are also brothers....


There are a lot more early 90's magna's around on the road then common*****s....given the amount of each sold new at the time.

I bet the Magna that hit your common***** only had a broken headlight as well.

Both of you go back to bed, if you want to come to a Magna forum then respect the people here.

Broken_verada, pity you have had the trouble but from the way you post, i can not say any more than you deserve everything that has happened, btw did the previous owner live on a hill cause he sure seen you coming cobba ( then so did your brother last night)

Don't worry. Both those wankers have been banned.

:thumbsup:

i guess this thread has no use then? if the main participant wont be coming back

True true.

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