Now I have heard there is a good chance there will be a Ralliart 380, specs are:

3.8L V6
Quad Cam
Intercooled Twin Turbo
4WD

What have you guys & girls heard? what do you think the likelihood of this is?

Now I have heard there is a good chance there will be a Ralliart 380, specs are:

3.8L V6
Quad Cam
Intercooled Twin Turbo
4WD

What have you guys & girls heard? what do you think the likelihood of this is?

where do you be getting your information from?

a good source... thats about as much as I can say! Evidently it is supposed to be a good 12 months after release....?

Now I have heard there is a good chance there will be a Ralliart 380, specs are:

3.8L V6
Quad Cam
Intercooled Twin Turbo
4WD

What have you guys & girls heard? what do you think the likelihood of this is?

interested to know where u getting ur info from too

a good source... thats about as much as I can say! Evidently it is supposed to be a good 12 months after release....?

last time i heard MMAL wasn't planning on making a 4wd ver. of the 380

no point in gessing and making asumptions till it comes out .... but what VR4 boy said sounds bout right really ... motsu have always said there is room for a turbo 380 and u would think they would realse it in the 2nd series of 380


i reckon its proberly more right then wrong but time will tell

As much as I'd like to believe this, I just don't think there is enough cash floating around to develop it.

Unless they'll be exporting components for it to the US as well...numbers could work out possibly.

that would be very cool holden and foord crushing car, but do they have the money to do that. i have always wondered what was stoppping a 3000gt/GTO set up going in, its already there just get rid of all the fance stuff they stuffed into the 300gt/GTO.

theres a few articles that do mention this. Mitsubishi are wanting to see how sales go of the 380 in the first place. then if sales go well, introduce higher performance models to help expand the target market and get sales further up. SO everyone should start buying 380s if they want to see a twin turbo awd one in a few years :D

ALso have heard that mitsubishi has developed a few turbo 3.5's in the past just for endurance testing etc. ofcourse none made it into a production model though.

They have stated that the chasis is built for a AWD system, and that the ECU is ready for a turbo, so put the two together and waste the competition. :shock:

that would be schweeeet.

i wish
i really do.
a MMAL Godzilla.

EDIT:
some of things i really like about promo-info for the production facilities used on the 380 are things like:

* Wheel Assembly – MMAL has installed a A$5 million facility to allow it to fit tyres and wheels up to 20” in diameter (it was previously 16”). The new equipment also electronically balances the wheel unit and takes out the radial force variation that contributes to vibration due to uneven weight distribution on the tyre and rim.

stick that an a 380 ralliart.

It's easy to say to Mitsubishi to make a ralliart 380 (not that i don't want) but how many ppl would buy it at for example the price of the ralliart magna ~$50000 when it first came out. Wasn't there am issue with it being too expensive and not as many sold as Mitsubishi have wanted? Correct me if i'm wrong........
But i'd definitely buy it

It's easy to say to Mitsubishi to make a ralliart 380 (not that i don't want) but how many ppl would buy it at for example the price of the ralliart magna ~$50000 when it first came out. Wasn't there am issue with it being too expensive and not as many sold as Mitsubishi have wanted? Correct me if i'm wrong........
But i'd definitely buy it

there is a BIIIG difference between a FWD 180kW TJ Ralliart and an AWD 250kW (approx) 380!
Poor sales for the TJ Ralliart really have no relevance to a possible AWD turbo'd 380 Ralliart, as long as Mitsu get their marketing ass into gear (and thats been a LONG time coming!)

there has been a substancial market place for HSV & FPV, so therefore, if done right, I cannot see any reason why the Ralliart 380 would not be a success, if said Ralliart 380 eventuates, with said specifications, I would assume that it would be enough to leave any HSV or FPV for dead!

The only problem I see with a turbo AWD ralliart is the EVO at 55k.

There would definately be a market for it (ie. all you guys lol ). Seriously, it would sell well and if they keep on going with the agressive advertising like that started to do in the past year, then they won't go wrong. The TJ Ralliart was great but I think that the bodykit was too over the top, maybe turning away some potential buyers. A Ralliart 380 would kill the Liberty GT, Mazda6 MPS and give the HSV/FPV boys a run (running after you) for their money.

The only problem I see with a turbo AWD ralliart is the EVO at 55k.

Not everyone will want a standard 'souped up' boyracer car. :bowrofl:

I dont think the pricing on EVO would have any affect on the Ralliart 380, they are not competing for the same buyers....

The only problem I see with a turbo AWD ralliart is the EVO at 55k.
Subaru has Liberty GT at 55K and WRX at 55K. And they both sell. So you don't have point at all

i like the 380 shape, and a ralliart twin turbo, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

it would be like an australia version of the eclipse or 3000gt, i reckon they should also look at a coupe model, and some form of a rear wheel drive type

It'd be like the australian version of a galant VR4 more than anything.

Both your examples were two door coupe sports cars lol :P

Edit: And they wont do RWD...There's no point

There will be no AWD TT Ralliart 380 unless the car SELLS. The new model hasn't even been released yet, they have sold NONE - the ones that are being given away are promotionals from MMAL - no cost.

And already you are pointing to a hot 380......

Yes, there is engineering and development being/been done. There was a number of turboed 6G75's put into 380 bodyshells. This is done for engineering stress testing - ie to see how the chassis, suspension, drivetrain (gearbox, clutches & CV's especially) and other parts handle extra power, torque and associated stresses of extra speed, braking requirements etc etc.
They also turboed cars to check/test the new Bosch engine management system that will handle a turbo system.

Yes, the chassis has been designed so that later AWD models are easy. But no development work on this yet. Again, just cut and shut in a suitably beefed up Lancer Evo system like on the 3rd gens.

To me, this is just homework done correctly by MMAL. If everything goes to plan, the cars sell, they make their money back plus a profit, then they have a good platform they can further develop with the profits.

If they spent another $150million on making a turbo AWD Ralliart 380 that they have to claw back, and the car didn't sell, that would be the end. It's prudent financial management. without it, you're outta business, and thousands of people are out of work.

But all this is moot unless the new model sells to break-even points in the first 18 months. There will be a facelift/refresh just like any other car, and then, if finances permit and there is a definite market and positive business case, it can then be developed and put to MMC for approval.

Only then will we get this.

Other market contenders have to be dealt with. You don't have a V8 supercar background (Commodore/Falcon), or a rally heritage like you do with the WRX.

The way you market this is to the people that want a big family car to put all the kids in, yet still like to take it around the track, or serious drivers. This is much the way Subaru has gone with the Liberty GT. Leave the EVO for the ball-rearing flat out rally stuff, put the 380 in the fast, refined category.

I'd like to see a base 380 turbo'ed, then a VRX/GT level turbo'ed too. You have to compete with an XR6 turbo (young hoon level), then with the Liberty GT, Mazda6 MPS etc. Prices would need to suit.

Im almost certain you will see a Ralliart 380..... just when is the question.

[QUOTE=MitsiMonsta]There will be no AWD TT Ralliart 380 unless the car SELLS. The new model hasn't even been released yet, they have sold NONE - the ones that are being given away are promotionals from MMAL - no cost.

Well I hear they have sold quite a few already to some big fleet companies and I read about a guy in SA who paid cash up front for a GT without seeing it !!

Edit: And they wont do RWD...There's no point

I wish they would. You should have seen all the comments on Ford Forums and LS1 about the new 380 - "I'd seriously consider buying one if it was a RWD".

I realise that really 90% of RWDs are never driven to the extent that the RWD makes a beneficial difference, but it's a great marketing tool that Holden, Ford and the euros have been exploiting for some time.

sh!t i'd buy a 380 so they can release the AWD TT ralliart!!!

EVERYONE BUY THE 380!!!

Well I hear they have sold quite a few already to some big fleet companies and I read about a guy in SA who paid cash up front for a GT without seeing it !!
Cars have been ordered and deposits (some of 100% of the price), but until the vehicle is put on sale, you can't sell any. You have only taken orders and deposits.

Come tommorow (when it goes on sale I think), then if someone has paid their money and driven away in one, then it has sales behind it....

Cars have been ordered and deposits (some of 100% of the price), but until the vehicle is put on sale, you can't sell any. You have only taken orders and deposits.

Come tommorow (when it goes on sale I think), then if someone has paid their money and driven away in one, then it has sales behind it....

Technicalties on wording isn't it here? Its pretty good if people are buying them before the go on "sale" as you put it!

I know for a fact there are people commiting themselves to these cars prior to their arrival, there have been clients that had bought their personalised plates several months ago! well before they even knew what the cars looked like!

I also know there has been some very large fleet orders that are currently being filled, these are the clients that are most likely to get the first cars into the market place.

I know there has been very steady streams of enquiry to dealers asking for dates, test drives and pricing, this would indicate at the early stages there is alot of keen buyers, this could be affliated with the fact that its an all new car and there is always going to be alot of interest in a brand new car to the market place.

I know for a fact there are people commiting themselves to these cars prior to their arrival, there have been clients that had bought their personalised plates several months ago! well before they even knew what the cars looked like!

I also know there has been some very large fleet orders that are currently being filled, these are the clients that are most likely to get the first cars into the market place.

I know there has been very steady streams of enquiry to dealers asking for dates, test drives and pricing, this would indicate at the early stages there is alot of keen buyers, this could be affliated with the fact that its an all new car and there is always going to be alot of interest in a brand new car to the market place.


yup! also prioir to 380's release dealers were selling them on purely asumed BASIC figures, asumed prive of 30-38 thousand, and the costomer didnt know how they looked either and they was still selling:O

http://blogs.drive.com.au/2006/09/what_should_the_local_car_make.html

MITSUBISHI RALLIART 380
The 380 is a good car in desperate need of an image lift. A 380 Evolution ‘halo’ model would be stretching the ‘Evo’ badge’s credibility, but a Ralliart-branded version – just like the half-decent Ralliart Magna of 2002 – would work.

The Ralliart 380 should naturally boast more power than the regular model and feature more attractive, sportier bodywork (the easiest part), with all four wheels putting power to the ground.

with all four wheels putting power to the ground.

YUM.. if that is true it'll sure get everybody to stop whining about it and would mean that MMAL could put a few more kw in it :D :D :D