View Full Version : 380 engine swap?
Lachlan56
14-10-2005, 08:05 AM
So..I was wondering if it were possible to try fit a 380 engine into a 3rd gen?
Just wondering, im leaning towards the "wtf man no way would that work" response but who knows.
MicJaiy
14-10-2005, 08:57 AM
I've asked the mitsubishi service and parts about this cause I was considering doing this rather than buying a new car.... my mind has changed since then.
The dude at heildelberg reckons you could, but you'd have to change things like the alternator, gearbox etc, etc. Then once its done you have to go to an autoelectrican to retune all the ecu and other components.
I'm guessing it would be an expensive job to do and probably not worth it.
J-PaP
14-10-2005, 09:13 AM
thats more than likely what you would have to do no matter what engine swap you do on a car. From looking at the engine yesterday at the dealer the engine mounts appear to be in the exact same spots. So the engine would bolt right in. Might need a custom flywheel to adapt your current gearbox on otherwise best ot get a gearbox out of a 380. And yeah the only thing left after that is the electronics. Not sure how exactly you would adapt the electronic throttle.
Nexus
14-10-2005, 10:47 AM
Do it, and be a 385 lol. I guess this should be the interest of TL owners. most older 3rd gen, WE be lucky even to change engines within our range even with all tools etc. bottom line most people will say you are better of looking for a new 3rd gen and sawp the parts and sell your off.
[TUFFTR]
14-10-2005, 01:37 PM
now since the car has just been realesed you'd probably have to wait a while until someone writes one off and you can go wreckers. might be a while though :doubt:
The wiring between the 3rd gens and the 380 are completely different. The 3rd gens and older
uses wiring looms where as the 380 uses a multiplexed bus system (single wire with signals
multiplexed).
TecoDaN
14-10-2005, 10:14 PM
The wiring between the 3rd gens and the 380 are completely different. The 3rd gens and older
uses wiring looms where as the 380 uses a multiplexed bus system (single wire with signals
multiplexed).
Which means even easier to rewire, but then its configuring the devices that will be a biggest problem, heck we can't even get access to a MUT-II at this point in time.
Which means even easier to rewire, but then its configuring the devices that will be a biggest problem, heck we can't even get access to a MUT-II at this point in time.You'll need a multiplexer and a de-multiplexer and know what signals are for what. Its not that
easy. They went the multiplex way so that it is easier to diagnose electric/electronic faults.
The wiring between the 3rd gens and the 380 are completely different. The 3rd gens and older
uses wiring looms where as the 380 uses a multiplexed bus system (single wire with signals
multiplexed).
yes but thats only for signals between control units, signals from sensors still use the same system as everything else, for eg earth, 5V reference, and signal, so if the 380 motor uses similar sensors to a 3rd gen, using and adapting the 3rd gen wiring loom wont be so hard
SideWinder
16-10-2005, 06:16 PM
after all the costs involved..itd be better to just get a 380 really..so much cost involved
Killbilly
16-10-2005, 07:07 PM
There's no way you'd be getting your hands on an engine in the near future anyway. You'd have to wait a year before you'd see them getting bingled.
The cost of the motor on it's own would be astronomical letalone the cost of the work.
You'd be FAR better off boring and stroking the 3.5 you have already. Get it blueprinted and you'll be over the 3.8's power figures anyway.
or u could just buy a 380...
or remind yourself that you drive a family sedan.....not a performance vehicle.
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