After some research on here I decided to purchase a whiteline anti-lift kit. I read some positive things about it, so I thought I'd try this and hoped that it would cure my issue. The problem I was getting was some serious axel tramp..... I have now fitted 18's (plus good rubber) and the problem has gone, no more axel tramp.
So I ask you experts should I still carry out this mod or take it back. The kit cost $180 and installation is $200 with a 4 wheel alignment, so $380 all up which just might be better spent alsewhere I am starting to think

(my car is a manual vrx not the verada pictured top left)

get it put on..u wont regret it..just make sure your's includes the postive castor mod as well...

Ive heard plenty of good things- definitely get it!

I've got it already just not sure if to fit it. The model number is KCA358X and I have no idea if it has a positive castor mod. (what is it???) I went on a spending frenzie, picked my new car up 2 weeks back and have since bought all of the below for it. My bank balance now is hmm :rant:
So yeah I thought I might save the money and get it back for something alse as the axel tramp has now gone :cool:

King springs
Whiteline rear adjustable sway bar
Whiteline strut brace
Whiteline camber kit
Whiteline anti lift kit
18 inch chrome wheels and tyres
Eclipse head unit (from ralliart)
Pioneer speakers
RPW Short shifter
RPW Stronger engine mount
K&N Panel

I wouldn't bother with it. Try get your money back and either keep it or spend it somewhere else.
I noticed you have a pod filter. Is it in CAI setup? or just stuck after the MAS sensor? If not, get a CAI setup. Costs around $90 for all the stuff to make yourself.
Otherwise, do a battery boot install and get some weight to the rear for better handling

I wouldn't bother with it. Try get your money back and either keep it or spend it somewhere else.
I noticed you have a pod filter. Is it in CAI setup? or just stuck after the MAS sensor? If not, get a CAI setup. Costs around $90 for all the stuff to make yourself.
Otherwise, do a battery boot install and get some weight to the rear for better handling
He says he has a Panel filter, not a pod

hm... i must have misread it then. :)

So back on topic, ive heard what this antilift kit is supposed to do, but does it work? Does anybody on here actually have one? I know Velocity was talking bout one for a while, dont know if he did or not. So yeah, if youve had one of these installed, i think were all interested in hearing bout it.

Been loving it long time...
(Just refreshed my memory by checking the Whiteline brochure)
KCA358X is the positive castor kit with anti-lift...made my steering heavier (was way to light to begin with) with much better road feel & better handling. Like they say, there’s no such thing as too much positive castor...cant loose...

So back on topic, ive heard what this antilift kit is supposed to do, but does it work? Does anybody on here actually have one? I know Velocity was talking bout one for a while, dont know if he did or not. So yeah, if youve had one of these installed, i think were all interested in hearing bout it.

Well I have the Anti-Lift Castor kit and a camber bolt from whiteline fitted, as well as the uprated roll bar (and VRX springs) with an alignment which I believe gives a touch of negative camber at the front. (Plus a roll bar/VRX springs on tha back).

The combination is quite transformative on the Magna - she points and grips and much better than standard, is less troubled by mid corner bumps and gets off from a standing start in a tidier and therefore quicker manner. Actually she drives and rides much more like something European than a Magna. It wasn't BAD before (as in Hyundai Sonata BAD), but its a whole different kettle of capability now.

Well I have the Anti-Lift Castor kit and a camber bolt from whiteline fitted, as well as the uprated roll bar (and VRX springs) with an alignment which I believe gives a touch of negative camber at the front. (Plus a roll bar/VRX springs on tha back).

The combination is quite transformative on the Magna - she points and grips and much better than standard, is less troubled by mid corner bumps and gets off from a standing start in a tidier and therefore quicker manner. Actually she drives and rides much more like something European than a Magna. It wasn't BAD before (as in Hyundai Sonata BAD), but its a whole different kettle of capability now.
Sigh, guess im speaking to Anthony again.

I have an Antilift/Castor Kit, Camber Kit etc and it does make the turn in's better. But it does stuff all to combat axle tramp.

Fit it, it is one of the best handling mods you can make to a FWD, aside from a rear swaybar upgrade/fitment.

I have a anti lift/castor kit on mine and its done sweet f*ckall BUT the 22mm adjustable rear sway bar on the other hand made a big difference.

Got the Anti-lift kit too, in my opinion, leave it to your last ever mods. Doesn't help axle tramp, but then again I never had axle tramp in the first place. The first time I had axle tramp was at the dragway, and that was with the anti-lift kit!

Anyway I'm not really happy with my whole suspension set up (Whiteline works), I'm going to have to spend at least another $150 getting another tune from a different place now, and hopefully that will help out.

HUGE difference....

wont drive a magna without :D

finished off my suspension, was the last thing to go on along with the front sway...

awesome... just awesome

definatly a win

didnt the S2 VRX TJ come with an anti lift kit?
was what i heard anyway

didnt the S2 VRX TJ come with an anti lift kit?
was what i heard anyway
not AFAIK

would be funny if they did... teh ralliarts would have had one in that case ;)

']not AFAIK

would be funny if they did... teh ralliarts would have had one in that case ;)


ok.... i was just askin

What size where the stock TJ sports rear sway bars?

Got the Anti-lift kit too, in my opinion, leave it to your last ever mods. Doesn't help axle tramp, but then again I never had axle tramp in the first place. The first time I had axle tramp was at the dragway, and that was with the anti-lift kit!

Anyway I'm not really happy with my whole suspension set up (Whiteline works), I'm going to have to spend at least another $150 getting another tune from a different place now, and hopefully that will help out.

Yeah your end result is rather puzzling all things considered.... bear in mind my comments refer to a car on VRX springs - I can't say what the effect of the A/L kit is with really hard springs. Also mine's an auto, with very decent rubber, but I don't get axle tramp at all, just a small chirp off the line and then its all just acceleration, with the normal side to side pulling one gets from the unequal length driveshafts

What size where the stock TJ sports rear sway bars?
16mm :D

']16mm :D

Actually the Sports and VR-X has 18mm rear anti-sway bar.

Ok I am finnaly getting this fitted on the weekend. My mate who is a mechanic said he would give it a go.
I rang up whiteline today and they had no instructions for it.
Is it straight forward and simple? Just change the bushes etc.
Could someone give me a quick step by step if possible....
Cheers BB

i got this lift kit, check my old thread.....

i cant really tel much difference.. i dont ge axle tramp but my wheels just spin :doubt:

Yeah I read threw it, it's funny all the mixed opinions. If my mate can fit it I might get it done, otherwise I might take the kit back and put the money alsewhere. (eg dual system)

If anyone could tell me how to fit it (in breif) it would be greatly appreciated :cool:

hmm this is from memory..
but first we took out lower control arm
then took out the old part u are replacing and had to get that cut out and the new piece bench pressed in. then bolt all the parts back in...
i got pics some where in my other thread

I have printed those pics out. See how we go I guess, thanks for your help. Cheers :cool:

no worries dude,
only prob i rekon u will have is removing the old crap thats all i had go wrong

I was going to do the install myself but I decided not to. Reason is the the bushes' axis has an offset for the adjustment of the camber, and well I had no idea how to adjust the rotation of the bush to dial in the correct caster I wanted. Let alone that I didn't even know the first thing about measuring the static wheel alignment.

Is there any benefit to upgrading the 18mm rear sway on a VR-X to a 22mm?

in general, yes. The relationship between diameter and stiffness isn't linear, I can't remember exactly what it is though, but others will. Either way, a 22mm swaybar is much stiffer than 18mm jobbie.

Is there any benefit to upgrading the 18mm rear sway on a VR-X to a 22mm?

In a word "YES". It does make a big difference. With the 22mm on the car feels as if it stays straight whilst cornering hard... It is a far improvement over the 18mm unit. But be sure to get the adjustable if you have the $$$.

in general, yes. The relationship between diameter and stiffness isn't linear, I can't remember exactly what it is though, but others will. Either way, a 22mm swaybar is much stiffer than 18mm jobbie.

According to the whiteline suspension swaybar stiffness chart, a 22mm swaybar is 123% stiffer then a 18mm swaybar.