View Full Version : Is there any chance of making a tf magna RWD
wcani85
04-11-2005, 02:44 PM
Just wanted to know about if theres a chance to convert a magna tf to a rwd? has it been done b4 besdies the the red v8. is there any idea on the price of this?
FRE5H
04-11-2005, 02:51 PM
Just wanted to know about if theres a chance to convert a magna tf to a rwd? has it been done b4 besdies the the red v8. is there any idea on the price of this?
man the amount of times sumone has asked this questions is a mentionable. if i were you id withdraw your querey b4 you face the onslaught that is beering down on you from all the other users on this forum who love to pik on ppl who bring this subject up. simply its too much work too much muney and there probly isnt anyone that wants to do it for you. you best go buy a commodore
or if you really want a rwd magna go get a TJ awd and take ot the front CV's it aint reccomended bbut you'll get your desired effect
veradabeast
04-11-2005, 02:53 PM
Lots. You need an engine, a gearbox, custom mounts, hoses, you'll probably need to modify the chassis, wheel hubs, suspension, everything.
Gemini
05-11-2005, 01:30 PM
Just throw the engine in the boot. The car would be a RR (rear engine, rwd) :D
The Photographer
05-11-2005, 01:32 PM
this would cost so much and take so long it is not worth it unless you have a spare 20k around and really want it done.
Gemini
05-11-2005, 01:39 PM
this would cost so much and take so long it is not worth it unless you have a spare 20k around and really want it done.
I can think of a REALLY dodgy way of doing it the car would be 4wd and have 2 engines :D
The Photographer
05-11-2005, 01:44 PM
yeah ive got a way to do it, throw out your current engine and make your bonnet into a luggage compartment.
mount a lawnmower engine in your boot and just take off the boot lid so no need for exauhst. cut a hole in the floor pan and mount a cog on your rear axle, run a chain from the mower to the axle, connect your fuel line to the fuel tank, extend the tortuise to rabbit speed controller to the drivers seat and away you go.
Est. HP rear wheel: 1
EST top speed: 20km/h
0-20km/h, 5 minutes hahah
Articuno
05-11-2005, 02:29 PM
yeah ive got a way to do it, throw out your current engine and make your bonnet into a luggage compartment.
mount a lawnmower engine in your boot and just take off the boot lid so no need for exauhst. cut a hole in the floor pan and mount a cog on your rear axle, run a chain from the mower to the axle, connect your fuel line to the fuel tank, extend the tortuise to rabbit speed controller to the drivers seat and away you go.
Est. HP rear wheel: 1
EST top speed: 20km/h
0-20km/h, 5 minutes hahah
Would a lawnmower engine have enough power to move the catr but?
MicJaiy
05-11-2005, 02:43 PM
Just throw the engine in the boot. The car would be a RR (rear engine, rwd) :D
or stick the engine in the back seat and make it an MR :badgrin: :bowrofl:
GoTRICE
05-11-2005, 03:48 PM
expensive, need awd gearbox if suitable in japanese models, probably need custom floor plan, for centre diff and rear diff housing and custom rear drive shafts. I'll give it a go, when i finish my degree. awd is easy enough to then go to rwd...
Unless others have attempted i do believe the 1st post was enough. Due to awd set ups in japanese models i'm sure it'd be possible, just people don't view the magna as being extra ordinary enough to try it.
ps don't think of paying people to do this unless your sitting on well over 100k a year and love your car as much as i do.
If you have a 3rd gen the is already a awd on the market, convert that to manual
Black Beard
05-11-2005, 06:43 PM
No one has mentioned that there are quite a few 3rd gens which have been turned into RWD V8's - the most noteworthy (arguably) of which is Darryl McBeths TL coupe.
There is also a RWD drag car up here in Qld sponsored by IFS (independent fuel suppliers) which is currently running a V8 under the hood - but they have been developing a supercharged V6 based on a magna engine which allegedly may be capable of producing 1000hp.
I have also seen pics of at least 2 RWD V8 powered magnas used in various touring car categories, the one that springs to mind had drive.com.au signage on it - but I don't know if these cars are still around.
So essentially, in answer to your question. Yes it is possible (isn't anything given enough money - why stop at RWD, why not make a flying magna???), but of those that have gone down this path, (from what I understand) have only done so for compeditive race (or show) applications, where obviously money was no object. The finished product would have little or no "magna" left in it as far as engine, transmission, driveline are concerned....... face it - if you're spending min $20,000........ do you really wanna keep your 3L SOHC V6???
WhiteGTV
08-11-2005, 05:26 AM
You can do it - but you will get rear wheel steering and have to look over your shoulder the whole time.......
and stay in reverse gear.... :bowrofl:
KING EGO
08-11-2005, 06:45 AM
or stick the engine in the back seat and make it an MR :badgrin: :bowrofl:
If you really want a challenge stick the engine in the back and keep it FWD.... :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
MicJaiy
08-11-2005, 06:52 AM
If you really want a challenge stick the engine in the back and keep it FWD.... :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
hahahahaha, imagine the understeer lol
magnas are already bad at that :P
michaelhaynes110
08-11-2005, 07:10 AM
Could you take an awd and just pull out the front diff or cv's like some people do with wrx's?
KING EGO
08-11-2005, 07:11 AM
hahahahaha, imagine the understeer lol
magnas are already bad at that :P
Hahah least then u can make the Hood the trunk and the trunk tho hood.. Kinda cool having the boot un the front..:P
This is something i looked into.
There is plenty of room in the engine bay you could use a ford drive train with some customisation, youd also need to strengthen the whole chassis aswell.
Suffice to say it would cost you around 20k to do and a further couple grand to engineer it.. If you could get someone to to it.
Then it most likely wouldnt be street registable anyhow.
turbo_charade
08-11-2005, 07:21 AM
Could you take an awd and just pull out the front diff or cv's like some people do with wrx's?
The rear half of the drive train would then have to deal with 100% torque, and things would break very easily.
heydude
08-11-2005, 01:52 PM
It is very possible, you would need a car that is already RWD, take the rear assembly and running gear from that car and engineer it onto the magna, you could use the Pajero motor which already faces north south and the components and gearbox to graft onto the drivetrain, hey presto rear drive.
Believe me stranger things are done than this.
Oh, and you wanna have an open bank account as well.
I sort of looked into this,,,,,hehe :shifty:
FRE5H
08-11-2005, 01:56 PM
It is very possible, you would need a car that is already RWD, take the rear assembly and running gear from that car and engineer it onto the magna, you could use the Pajero motor which already faces north south and the components and gearbox to graft onto the drivetrain, hey presto rear drive.
Believe me stranger things are done than this.
Oh, and you wanna have an open bank account as well.
I sort of looked into this,,,,,hehe :shifty:
your all forgetting that you would need a tunnled out floor pan for thse who are serious talking you can't just sit a tail shaft any where. it needs to sit in a enginered tunnel. (hold off all Lane Cove Tunnel JOkes :P ) its alot of work
[TUFFTR]
08-11-2005, 01:57 PM
if you do a search on this topic, i asked this question for my very 1st post on amc, and my god its a long post.
i had a few respsones such as yes it could be done, but would need $$$$$
then the question arises, "its not a magna cause its not FWD"
and one person even told me i could use a triton chassis.
my ultimate goal with the TR or any magna in life is to have it converted into a RWD supercharged beast.
FRE5H
08-11-2005, 02:01 PM
']if you do a search on this topic, i asked this question for my very 1st post on amc, and my god its a long post.
i had a few respsones such as yes it could be done, but would need $$$$$
then the question arises, "its not a magna cause its not FWD"
and one person even told me i could use a triton chassis.
my ultimate goal with the TR or any magna in life is to have it converted into a RWD supercharged beast.
GOD SPEED!
turbo_charade
08-11-2005, 02:34 PM
I think if you need to ask, then its not possible for you to create a rwd magna.
heydude
08-11-2005, 07:54 PM
I know of ONE person who has created a rear wheel drive car from a front driver, and he estimated the cost to be around the 40k mark, street registered.
Like I said, open bank account.
wcani85
08-11-2005, 08:58 PM
the only reason i asked was i wanted a magna to enter the drift seen im becoming so over the nissans taking over i would like to see a magna represent in the drift battles. I can see getting a awd could do the trick just i love my car i would rather this but hey cant get wat i want unless i was loaded. but soon there will be a drift magna real soon.
yeh wat are the chances of putting the magna sheel straight into a rwd rb20 or sr20 would it be any cheaper
jarod
12-11-2005, 11:19 AM
i think u need to just ask ur self....why?yeah it would be cool but its not gonna happen
why bother.
people will laugh at u more for putting so much money into the car.
even if u took the rwd magna to a drift day u would get ur a$$ handed to you...unless your an exceptionally good driver and had massive hp...im talking 300+HP...the magna is heavy...
people drift nissans for 5 reasons..(mainly talking about 180's and sylvias).
1.they are factory rwd..if somethign breaks just go to the wrecker...have fun doing that with ur custom magna.
2.easy as hp that comes cheep.300HPatw from a sr20det for about 5K is common...i got 321HpATW from my 93 180 sx with spending $4300.
3.they are light
4.they are a sport car which means great handeling and response.
5.they are cheep
now to get 300HPatw from ur magna ur gonna need to turbo it...and to do it properly ur gonna need to spend id say 10K MIN..more like 15K mayba more...u want sorta small turbo's so u have little turbo lag as possible..lag when drifting=gayness
ur rwd conversion would be easy 20k.
so ur looking at min 30k just to get the thing slightly competative..then u need suspension etc..and even then she will get shatted on by almost any half decent drifter in a 180/sylvia with hp as little as 240hp
its a wasnt of money and ull never get the money back...no1 will buy it when u wanna sell it..and fimally if its a daily driver and u get pulled over by the cops...prepare to be there for a while as ur gonna get defected like crazy..
Gemini
12-11-2005, 11:31 AM
Hahah least then u can make the Hood the trunk and the trunk tho hood.. Kinda cool having the boot un the front..:P
Imagine the boot install you could do :shock: I wonder if it would be strange having the subs at the front lol.
ZachTS
12-11-2005, 03:25 PM
we did that at work, in a VW beetle just last wednesday, a pair of 12s in the... front boot thingy...
Imagine the boot install you could do :shock: I wonder if it would be strange having the subs at the front lol.
go get a VW bug, or a Toyota MR2 :D
i wouldn't mind a SW20 mr2....
danstraz
12-11-2005, 04:42 PM
the only reason i asked was i wanted a magna to enter the drift seen im becoming so over the nissans taking over i would like to see a magna represent in the drift battles. I can see getting a awd could do the trick just i love my car i would rather this but hey cant get wat i want unless i was loaded. but soon there will be a drift magna real soon.
yeh wat are the chances of putting the magna sheel straight into a rwd rb20 or sr20 would it be any cheaper
In effect you'd end up with a nissan drifter anyway.
The nissans still win, you're using a nissan with a heavier body :nuts:
Fair enough it'd look good, but it'd still be a nissan.
If you get an awd TJ and work it, change the front rear power ratio, upgrade the drive train... You'd end up with a magna that drifts and a massive hole in your pocket.
Say $10k for the car (if you can get one with a crapped out motor)
$5k on a rebuild in prep for power mods... (turbo etc)
$5-8k for turbo/s or a S/C
$3-4k on drivetrain, diffs (not including gearbox)
$4-6 on gearbox and clutch (Min)
Thats a lot of money and that doesn't include any asthetic mods.
Matthius
12-11-2005, 05:21 PM
now to get 300HPatw from ur magna ur gonna need to turbo it...and to do it properly ur gonna need to spend id say 10K MIN..more like 15K mayba more...u want sorta small turbo's so u have little turbo lag as possible..lag when drifting=gayness
ur rwd conversion would be easy 20k.
Most of your post I agree with, except for the mods required to take a magna to 300whp.
I morossoe'd Jasons TH and according to the calculator he's got over 300fwhp and thats with a fairly mild cam. This was assuming his car weighed around 1550 down the track. I think you'll also see Cthulu knocking on the door of 300fwhp soon too.
Apart from that, yeah lots of money - enough that you could just buy a 3000gt and tinker with that to turn it into a driftpig if you were mitsi oriented.
Matthius
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