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Lachlan56
07-11-2005, 01:09 PM
Whoopy. I went expecting a quick 15 minute trip, after all, the car runs fine, emits no odours or smoke/ doesnt squeak, clutch doesnt slip, performs well etc. The car is in very good condition.

Oh but aparently its not road worthy because of:

Damaged wiper blades
- I dunno what the hell this guys talking about, they are fine

Number plate globe is out
- Fair enough i guess

Steering wheel grip rotates more then 10mm
- In one little section if you twist firmly it rotates a bit. How this is a big deal I have NO idea, but he claims I now need some professional to glue it back together, and he said the charge is $80 What a complete waste of my money.

Engine Leaks oil
- I don't know where he pulled that one from. There is oil on the underside but its been there for ages, I just haven't cleaned it. I have parked it for days on end and there was zero spots of oil on the ground


Is this normal or was this guy being EXTREMELY picky? I had not even noticed the 'loose' wheel grip until he mentioned it, and damaged wiper blades? I was driving in the rain the other day, they performed perfectly fine. I don't know what he is using to judge as 'damaged' but its not his eyes thats for sure. More like his wallet.

smokeykebab
07-11-2005, 01:13 PM
sounds like whoevers doing the safety check is a complete tightass to me. but then again there are rules and regulations in place to keep your car safe.

Lachlan56
07-11-2005, 01:16 PM
If i now take it somewhere else and it passes, thats perfectly legal right? Im thinking of just replacing the globe over the numberplate, degreasing the underside and engine then takeing it elsewhere

MicJaiy
07-11-2005, 01:19 PM
If i now take it somewhere else and it passes, thats perfectly legal right? Im thinking of just replacing the globe over the numberplate, degreasing the underside and engine then takeing it elsewhere

definitly take it elsewhere. I would of smashed the guy in the mouth for that steering problem.. a**holes

Ol' Fart
07-11-2005, 01:21 PM
Run the f*@ker over and ask him if he can see the bloody oil leak now :badgrin:

smokeykebab
07-11-2005, 01:22 PM
:rolleyes: :badgrin:

Lachlan56
07-11-2005, 01:24 PM
So you guys definetly think I was being gipped? We have been to this place before, Ive have found this guy to be pretty rude and refuses to explain things in detail. My mum had an oil leak in her car 'fixed' there, cost her several hundreds, and then 2 weeks later it was leaking oil. She took it to some other place who simply replaced a cracked oil cap or something which fixed it right up.

Ol' Fart
07-11-2005, 01:29 PM
So you guys definetly think I was being gipped? We have been to this place before, Ive have found this guy to be pretty rude and refuses to explain things in detail. My mum had an oil leak in her car 'fixed' there, cost her several hundreds, and then 2 weeks later it was leaking oil. She took it to some other place who simply replaced a cracked oil cap or something which fixed it right up.

I think you just answered your own question, this guy is what is known in technical terms as a w!*ker. :)

TecoDaN
07-11-2005, 01:33 PM
The list you have above are all fairly normal, however you'll find 80% of mechanics are lazy and leave out the minor bits and pass the safety check. The leaking engine oil is a difficult one. They should pass you even though there may be oil around the seals etc. unless you have oil dripping every 10 mins.

Not sure what you mean by steering wheel grip, you mean the actual circumference of the steering wheel is loose?

Lachlan56
07-11-2005, 01:41 PM
No no, the steering wheel itself is solid as a rock. The rubber handle seal, you can 'twist it' and aparently if it twists over 10mm its not in compliance with Steering Wheel Rule 103.01
according to this piece of paper anyway. And I just went and pulled the wipers up, they look perfectly fine, I seriously can't see where he got that one from. Rear numberplate globe is no biggie. Next weekend im buying some degreaser and a new globe, then takeing my car elsewhere

SARRAS
07-11-2005, 02:51 PM
If i now take it somewhere else and it passes, thats perfectly legal right? Im thinking of just replacing the globe over the numberplate, degreasing the underside and engine then takeing it elsewhere

Sounds like a good plan...

Nexus
07-11-2005, 03:00 PM
Take it elsewhere, is definately wanting you to spend some cash over ther in order for you to pass. Wiper blades? Never occured to me that it be a big issues when it works fine.

The Photographer
07-11-2005, 03:18 PM
you should take it somewhere else.

the guy it took mine 2 asked me to do the lights and then he asked me about the other questions. i said yeah its fine.

He said sweet and signed the paper.

The dodgy greek mechanics are good for something haha.

mightymag
07-11-2005, 03:54 PM
we dont need to be passed in tasmaina only if the rego has ran out for more than 90 days (3 months for those who cant count:bowrofl: ) Glad i live in tasmania

magnus
07-11-2005, 05:29 PM
Whoopy. I went expecting a quick 15 minute trip, after all, the car runs fine, emits no odours or smoke/ doesnt squeak, clutch doesnt slip, performs well etc. The car is in very good condition.

Oh but aparently its not road worthy because of:

Damaged wiper blades
- I dunno what the hell this guys talking about, they are fine

Number plate globe is out
- Fair enough i guess

Steering wheel grip rotates more then 10mm
- In one little section if you twist firmly it rotates a bit. How this is a big deal I have NO idea, but he claims I now need some professional to glue it back together, and he said the charge is $80 What a complete waste of my money.

Engine Leaks oil
- I don't know where he pulled that one from. There is oil on the underside but its been there for ages, I just haven't cleaned it. I have parked it for days on end and there was zero spots of oil on the ground


Is this normal or was this guy being EXTREMELY picky? I had not even noticed the 'loose' wheel grip until he mentioned it, and damaged wiper blades? I was driving in the rain the other day, they performed perfectly fine. I don't know what he is using to judge as 'damaged' but its not his eyes thats for sure. More like his wallet.

yes these are all normal things ....light globes yes...wiper on the drivers side must work not leaving streaks ...steering wheel yes it must not twist and oil leaks well as long as its not a complete mess and is not dripping it should pass....
if you dont beleve the mechanic ask him if you can see the code of practice its all in there ............
you would be supprised what will fail

dont forget if he was to pass your car and you went to transport dept and had a ***** about it he would loose his ticket ...thats why he is picky i am to....

Dee
07-11-2005, 05:44 PM
also, most places will record any attempt to have a satfey check... even if you fail, a copy will most likley be sent to the rta.. or roads service (duno what state your in) and keep it on the record that it failed an attempted inspection... i found this out the other day.

but that hand grip thing... i was driving home the other day and was just trying to make it come loose.. like just rubbing it with my hand.. and i felt the glue come off a little inside... now its wiggly a little when you rub your hand back and forward over it (which i do)... didnt know it was unroadworthy though - how they found out it does that, must be a pendantic mechanic.. least hes doing his job

RINGA///ART
07-11-2005, 05:49 PM
well i was just reading my road worthy certificate i had to get on the ralliart to have it re-registered here in tassy (it failed also) and it says that if your car is failed by an inspection station then the problem must be fixed then re-inspected and passed at that same inspection station only, so you cant say "stuff you then ill go somewhere else".. fair in a way because they definatley make sure you are fixing what causes the failure in the first place..

mine failed because of a faulty spoiler brake light (turned out to be a warranty issue, was inspected at my local mitsu dealer, they rectified the problem for nothing and passed it)

but failed becuase of things like faulty or no windscreen wipers seems to be going over the top a bit, but they are a safety thing that are very important and if they arent working then the car should fail.. having said that though, if there was nothing wrong with them and they work, well, thats just stupid

MitsiMonsta
07-11-2005, 05:51 PM
here's my check from last friday:

Check headlights, taillights and indicators all work.

Pop bonnet, cursory check of complance plate (date of manufacture really.... no engine No / VIN against what's on the rego)

Start it, have a listen (new exhaust sounds sweet he said)

Put the brake tester on it, fly down the road, brake. Turn around, come back, sign the paper, pay $27.50.

Geez I love this guy! He does know the car and knows me pretty well. I wouldnt take it to him with any problems and he knows this.

He then proceeded to turn up the stereo and deafen everyone in a 100m radius :cool:
And then he tells me I have to help him do his system!

[THUGDOUT]
07-11-2005, 06:34 PM
i dont gotta do this stuff



hah

!

Killbilly
07-11-2005, 06:47 PM
So you guys definetly think I was being gipped? We have been to this place before, Ive have found this guy to be pretty rude and refuses to explain things in detail. My mum had an oil leak in her car 'fixed' there, cost her several hundreds, and then 2 weeks later it was leaking oil. She took it to some other place who simply replaced a cracked oil cap or something which fixed it right up.

And you're STILL going to him?!

Dee
07-11-2005, 06:47 PM
i wonder if i should take some metho to my tinted tailights before i go for an inspection in a week :(

Killbilly
07-11-2005, 06:51 PM
i wonder if i should take some metho to my tinted tailights before i go for an inspection in a week :(

Find some stock ones from a wrecker.

Swap them over, then do the inspection..then swap them back

Smap
07-11-2005, 07:31 PM
Is this for a pink slip? or the notorious blue slip?

thats pretty harsh though...thats safety overboard....

inter
08-11-2005, 09:35 AM
Man, you are being a bit of a cheap arse! lol.

All those should be done by the mechanic WHILE you have the check done. If the guy didn't offer to replace them then and there, find someone else next time.

It's easy to do these yourself:

Damaged wiper blades- Cheap. any supercheap has new blades for $10 each

Number plate globe is out- Cheap

Steering wheel grip rotates more then 10mm - go to supercheap and buy a leather wrap around steering wheel cover. $20

Engine Leaks oil - buy a couple of $2 spray cans of degreaser. Get under the car and clear the oil pan just before you take it back. If he's "reasonable" & he see's you made the effort, they usually pass you!

Trinedy
08-11-2005, 03:07 PM
mine failed because of a faulty spoiler brake light (turned out to be a warranty issue, was inspected at my local mitsu dealer, they rectified the problem for nothing and passed it)


You got crapped over as well mate I have actually asked a police officer if this is illegal to have the light out and he said no as long as you have your 2 normal tail lights working only. The spoiler light is basicly there for looks and obviously added warning for other motorists. But not essential he said!!!

Cheers

Heath

mysti
08-11-2005, 03:16 PM
i wonder if i should take some metho to my tinted tailights before i go for an inspection in a week :(

Relax dee.. Mine passed pink slip easily.. Just make sure your lights are all ok..

and as for your theory of them submitting failed attempts to the RTA, just find an older mechanic who isnt online with the rta.. theres no way theyd send off their failed paperwork.. too much effort.

magnus
08-11-2005, 04:32 PM
You got crapped over as well mate I have actually asked a police officer if this is illegal to have the light out and he said no as long as you have your 2 normal tail lights working only. The spoiler light is basicly there for looks and obviously added warning for other motorists. But not essential he said!!!

Cheers

Heath

i wouldnt beleve that if its standard and came with the car it has to be working
if you have a light in the rear window and a spoiler you must dissconect the one in the back window .....in QLD not sure about other states

TecoDaN
08-11-2005, 04:47 PM
i wouldnt beleve that if its standard and came with the car it has to be working
if you have a light in the rear window and a spoiler you must dissconect the one in the back window .....in QLD not sure about other states


Not in NSW, you can have the high mount brake light and the spoiler light active together, my mum's old car had that setup, came straight from the dealer.


From my knowledge, the ADR rules were changed sometime in the early 90's and new cars manufactured after this time period had to have a high mount brake light installed. So yes, legally most of us will need that high mount brake light (or spoiler light) working, except for our first gen members :)


Anyway I still don't know what you guys are talking about the steering wheel thing?? I've tried to twist my steering wheel/airbag compartment thingy and it doesnt bulge....

mysti
08-11-2005, 04:55 PM
Anyway I still don't know what you guys are talking about the steering wheel thing?? I've tried to twist my steering wheel/airbag compartment thingy and it doesnt bulge....

Its not the airbag part, its just the steering wheel grip.. if you hold the wheel normally (like 10 to 2 position) then twist your fists towards the windscreen, gripping firmly.. thats the movement they are talking about..

My last car had a fair bit of movement in that... It can be quite dangerous.. But my magna has no issues.. guess it depends on how the drivers grip the wheel..

Trinedy
08-11-2005, 06:18 PM
i wouldnt beleve that if its standard and came with the car it has to be working
if you have a light in the rear window and a spoiler you must dissconect the one in the back window .....in QLD not sure about other states

I spose this must vary from state to state ohhh well mine works anyways hehe

Cheers

Heath

Disciple
09-11-2005, 07:10 AM
In relation to the "twist" of the steering wheel, same thing happened to me when I went to get a blue certificate for my old TR. The mechanic just told me to get a syringe and fill it with superglue, then simply "inject" it into the steering wheel grip. Worked a charm.

FFEEkY
12-11-2005, 08:19 AM
You could just do the glue yourself... i did on my old commodore.. all you need is a suringe and some superglue. they dont know if you used professional glue or not
and it only takes about 5 mins. just make sure the suringe you get has a decent sized needle on it to squirt the glue out... and do it in the back of the wheel (the windscreen side) or it will look tacky from the front.

Disciple
12-11-2005, 09:48 AM
You could just do the glue yourself... i did on my old commodore.. all you need is a suringe and some superglue. they dont know if you used professional glue or not
and it only takes about 5 mins. just make sure the suringe you get has a decent sized needle on it to squirt the glue out... and do it in the back of the wheel (the windscreen side) or it will look tacky from the front.

You didn't read the post directly above yours did you. :bowrofl:

FFEEkY
14-11-2005, 05:30 PM
You didn't read the post directly above yours did you. :bowrofl:

Maybe.... :shifty: :bowrofl: